Celebrity Feuds
When Elfmans Explode

Jenna ElfmanIf Tom Cruise's recent public displays weren't evidence enough, Scientologists Jenna and Bodhi Elfman prove that they, too, are willing to go to great lengths to defend their religion.
 
Indie film director John Roecker tells TMZ he was walking to his car with a female friend in LA's trendy Los Feliz neighborhood last Sunday when he was approached by a shirtless man and a tall blonde. "Hey, man, you're making fun of my religion," said the stranger angrily.
 
Roecker quickly recognized the couple as actor Bodhi Elfman and his wife, 'Dharma and Greg' star Jenna Elfman. Mr. Elfman's ire was apparently drawn by Roecker's self-made t-shirt, which had a picture of Tom Cruise on the front under the caption "Scientology is Gay!" and a 'Stayin'-Alive'-era John Travolta on the back with the words "Very Gay!" For the record, both Cruise and Travolta have said repeatedly they are not gay.



Roecker and his controversial t-shirt

According to Roecker, whose encounter was first reported on LA's KROQ-FM's Kevin and Bean Show, the invective started to fly after he made several references to Scientology theology and its reported central tenent, the story of Xenu.
 
Roecker says Jenna repeatedly said "What crimes have you committed?" and began screaming at Roecker, "Have you raped a baby?" as motorists on Los Feliz Boulevard drove by in snarled traffic.
 
Roecker says it appears that Bodhi Elfman prepared to take a swing at him, but thought against it.
 
Bizarrely, Roecker also says that the Elfmans had a young, twenty-something male companion with them whom they continually instructed to move away and cover his ears whenever references to Xenu were made.
 
Roecker says this is not the first time he has worn a t-shirt that has provoked similar reactions from fellow devotees of L. Ron Hubbard like Juliette Lewis, Lisa Marie Presley, and actor Hal Ozman, who worked on 'Dawson's Creek' with none other than a certain Katie Holmes. Sources at the Church of Scientology's Celebrity Centre say Roecker is no stranger to them.  Several non-celeb parishioners have also complained about Roecker's t-shirts.

Bodhi Elfman's rep Jenni Weinman tells TMZ that according to Bodhi "He was out for a Sunday stroll with his wife, when some guy walks by with a t-shirt on, very prominently attacking his religion. Words were extended and Bodhi and Jenna were personally attacked for their beliefs.  As they went about their business, the guy continued to try to illicit negative responses from the both of them. As they walked away he continued to scream propaganda and hate at them. Apparently he spent all Monday calling the press to promote himself."

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61. It doesn't matter who did what. Scientologists are crazy, irrational
brainwashed cult people who believe in Xenu and you can't have
a rational conversation with them;
particularly if they disagree with you because they'll just spew
illogical irrational crazy venom at you like Jenna Elfman did
about the t-shirt and like Tom Cruise continually does
about anything that counters his alien Scientology beliefs. THEY ARE crazy crazy people. Poor Katie Holmes.

Posted at 6:13PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Dena

62. Screw Scientology, but what's up with the gay bashing?

Posted at 6:15PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Danr

63. Ok...
Educate yourselves... read some of hubbards own writing.

http://www.xenu.net

I am not here to judge, but its funny, there are rooms and rooms of people in hollywoods scientology centers looking desperately for any press about their sometimes off color members, if the stories are publicized then scientologists come out saying first of all that they are not scientologists and start spouting religious intolerance and pointing fingers. People wear t-shirts that say f*** jesus and god is dead, people wear t-shirts and post things encouraging others to hurt muslims. Nobody says anything. I read tmz stories all day and find its funny that nobody ever posts a string of comments on anything except when a scientologist is involved.
If I so wished I could sit on a street corner and call individual peoples' mothers explatives, I could say god is evil, I could do anything I wanted. If I do not approach or hurt anyone I am within my legal bounds, arguing that a t-shirt is religiously intolerant and putting the blame on the wearer is only a mask to bring the story around from what really happened. A man expressed an idea on a SHIRT and two people thought it was enough to accost him. There is the crime, accosting someone for their beliefs. Hmmmm.
Isnt it enough that these folks run around doing tones scales on people which essentially means they go to public places to JUDGE others. For a religion that is so based on judgement they definitely are whiny crybabies when it comes to people judging them. To Jenna and Bodhi, bad tone bad bad, im grading you low on tone scale for the day. :)
As for Jenna's statements about raping babies, read in hubbards own words, Hubbard promoted the use of slander and the org collects criminal records from its own followers so that if one day they speak out against the "religion" they can be persecuted. Pretty clever clause I think, but when people have no criminal past they make things up, L Ron said to do that too. Good scientologists are pretty intolerant and ready to go to war, the ELFMANS are GREAT scientologists.
DO WHAT YOU WANT PEOPLE, LEAVE EVERYONE ALONE AND YOU WILL BE LEFT ALONE! If you are indeed superhuman then why do you care what us lowly humans say. A reporter once said that he had in his life done some dangerous reporting, he would report against the mafia, he had gone to areas of bosnia nobody dared, he had gone to war... but he would never touch scientology, and not because the stories weren't there.
By blogging the hell out of this story the scientology lackeys are making is so evident that the org is freaky. CHILL OUT! If people in your membership do stupid things and screw up then TOO BAD they are asmuch fair game as anyone else. And as for celebritites getting harrassed for their extreme beliefs I just have one thing to say... MEL GIBSON! Passion of the Christ made him a paraiah... also Da Vinci Code, eveyone had something to say about the catholics then.

Posted at 6:15PM on Jun 13th 2006 by disgusted

64. Love Jenna. What's a scientologist?

Posted at 6:15PM on Jun 13th 2006 by herb

65. Jenna who?

Posted at 6:17PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Steve Hodges

66. I read "Dianetics" too. It was 1/3 practical and sensible, 1/3 interesting speculation, and 1/3 complete insanity.

But that's their right if they want to believe in it. If they want to pay money to believe in it, even, that's still their right.

What gets me is how sensitive so many Scientologists are to being made fun of. That's what makes the Elfman's response as being reported by this guy so believeable. Cruz flies into lawsuit mode, "South Park" loses Isaac Hayes, when Hayes had no problem with them mocking every other belief system on the planet...

Just like Fundamentalist Christians, they seem to think they're the only people being made fun of.

Someone should tell them their defensiveness makes them more suspicious than just letting people make jokes.

In any case, this is America, and God bless us, we have the right to make fun of anyone we want, including and most especially any religion at any time we feel like.

Posted at 6:28PM on Jun 13th 2006 by jim

67. It takes balls to wear a shirt that makes a statement. Especially against scientology.
Roeker has courage.
It takes a lot of character to go out wearing something that can get you attacked. Funny how people can wear I F***ed Britney shirts all around, no problem, people can wear anti muslim shirts all around, people might whisper in each others ear. People can put billboards up all over town with upside down crosses and 6-6-6 on them and people murmer but keep driving. People don't like those things, people think they are wrong, people also know that it would be wrong to attack other people for expressing themselves. If you want to only hear, see, or be able to say only a limited amount of things... move to CHINA. They got it all programmed out there. I for one am not into letting Scientology make this country into a place where people can only say what is popular to one small group of people. F that!
I applaud Roeker for having the sack to wear that shirt, especially since it's well known that scientologists have no problem attacking others. They are the least attacked religion of them all. The sue everyone, they are trying to rule by fear and for the most part succeeding. C'mon who really wants to live in a world where looney tunes L Ron Hubbard is the grand prophet... no matter how cool people think diantetics is.

Posted at 6:28PM on Jun 13th 2006 by BALLS

68. Unfortunately, Tom Cruise and his antics this past year has put a cloud over Scientology.....He plays a big part and should take the responsiblity and blame for their religion taking a bad rap!!!!!!!!!!
I think we all have the right of freedom of speech, but when you start trying to suffocate people about your beliefs and religion, and trying to convince the world about how great your religion is....it makes me personally feel that those people, including Mr. Cruise are almost trying to convince themselves because they probably have doubts about it.....
The bottom line.....If you beleive in something...whether it's your religion, your political views, or the how you feel about yourself....YOU DON"T NEED TO BRING SO MUCH ATTENTION TO IT and make yourslef look like a complete ASS!!!!!!

Posted at 6:29PM on Jun 13th 2006 by lisa

69. Scientology is a religion only insofar as its leaders have managed to engage a large number of followers. I have read much of the "doctrine", but a search of associated articles seem to impress little more than the "church's" constant efforts to feign legitimacy by petitioning for tax-exempt status in county's where they manage to create a large enough presence. It would seem than any school of thought, given enough effort and celebrity influence can earn funds for a library and multiple "cultural centers" free from local and federal taxes, as well as receiving protection under state and federal discrimination laws.

Freedom of speech is great. We also have the freedom to ignore and or activly voice our opinions of a Sci-Fi authors rantings. Trekkies are looking so much cooler to me everyday.

Posted at 6:30PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Jaime

70. Cults are cults! And one sure sign of them is when they are completely intolerant of any criticism or questioning of their teachings, isn't it? Hey -- wait a minute -- what about the Catholic church and all that mess over "The Da Vinci Code" ? Hmmmmmmm ...

Posted at 6:33PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Kevin Tweedy

71. I want one of those T-shirts now! F*** SCIENTOLOGY! It's nothing but a huge pyramid scheme for MORONS. They ought to have the s*** beaten out of them on first sight. Germany was RIGHT to outlaw it.

Posted at 6:33PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Jay

72. Now if only we can get people to do the same thing with all religions, cuz they are all just as ridiculous as this Xenu crap.

Posted at 6:39PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Big Daddy

73. "Who are we to judge?" We are thinking people who can clearly see that this "religion" is just a huge money-making scam perpetrated by a second rate Sci-fi author to fuel his own need for power and control. Calling it a cult is accurate for now, however all religions start as cults and when enough sheep, er, followers, join the parade, it is referred to as a major religion.

Posted at 6:50PM on Jun 13th 2006 by iburl

74. So. That fag Roecker has a ring in his nose. How gay is that? Grow up, asshole and learn to live and let live.

Posted at 6:50PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Porkbutt

75. Scientology is as gay as Christianity...
All Whackos...

Posted at 6:51PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Bill Holdingbrow

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