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When Elfmans Explode

Jenna ElfmanIf Tom Cruise's recent public displays weren't evidence enough, Scientologists Jenna and Bodhi Elfman prove that they, too, are willing to go to great lengths to defend their religion.

Indie film director John Roecker tells TMZ he was walking to his car with a female friend in LA's trendy Los Feliz neighborhood last Sunday when he was approached by a shirtless man and a tall blonde. "Hey, man, you're making fun of my religion," said the stranger angrily.

Roecker quickly recognized the couple as actor Bodhi Elfman and his wife, 'Dharma and Greg' star Jenna Elfman. Mr. Elfman's ire was apparently drawn by Roecker's self-made t-shirt, which had a picture of Tom Cruise on the front under the caption "Scientology is Gay!" and a 'Stayin'-Alive'-era John Travolta on the back with the words "Very Gay!" For the record, both Cruise and Travolta have said repeatedly they are not gay.



Roecker and his controversial t-shirt

According to Roecker, whose encounter was first reported on LA's KROQ-FM's Kevin and Bean Show, the invective started to fly after he made several references to Scientology theology and its reported central tenent, the story of Xenu.

Roecker says Jenna repeatedly said "What crimes have you committed?" and began screaming at Roecker, "Have you raped a baby?" as motorists on Los Feliz Boulevard drove by in snarled traffic.

Roecker says it appears that Bodhi Elfman prepared to take a swing at him, but thought against it.

Bizarrely, Roecker also says that the Elfmans had a young, twenty-something male companion with them whom they continually instructed to move away and cover his ears whenever references to Xenu were made.

Roecker says this is not the first time he has worn a t-shirt that has provoked similar reactions from fellow devotees of L. Ron Hubbard like Juliette Lewis, Lisa Marie Presley, and actor Hal Ozman, who worked on 'Dawson's Creek' with none other than a certain Katie Holmes. Sources at the Church of Scientology's Celebrity Centre say Roecker is no stranger to them. Several non-celeb parishioners have also complained about Roecker's t-shirts.

Bodhi Elfman's rep Jenni Weinman tells TMZ that according to Bodhi "He was out for a Sunday stroll with his wife, when some guy walks by with a t-shirt on, very prominently attacking his religion. Words were extended and Bodhi and Jenna were personally attacked for their beliefs. As they went about their business, the guy continued to try to illicit negative responses from the both of them. As they walked away he continued to scream propaganda and hate at them. Apparently he spent all Monday calling the press to promote himself."

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91. Stupidology is for stupid people. Not completely stupid but just kind of weak minded, not well educated, and easily led astray by big words, yet at the same time huge egos so they believe that their decisions are foolproof. There may be many celebrities who claim to be scientologists but I can guarantee that many if not most of them are just pretending so that they can become home-boys with Cruise, Travolta etc.

What can you say about Stupidology that hasn't been said 10,000 times already? The celebrity dummies who buy into that scam give the rest of us a glimpse into the intellectual level of your average celebrity i.e. space cadets. Probably the result of spending so much time worrying about "making it big" and then "staying hot" that they develop a lot of mental fatigue and stress which leaves them open to predator stress release programs and "healers". The celebrities who actually believe in Stupidology probably gained some reliief from the stress of show biz from scientology before they ever knew anything about it. They were probably introduced by a friiedn to stress reduction techinques they use and the big dummies probably thought the Stupidologists "must know what they're talking about because they made me feel better" duh. Like stupid puppies they got suckered by people who fed them snacks when they were hungry and now they are devoted to their masters.

Hey but they're not the only stupids in Hollywood. Brad and Angelina are big fans of Ayn Rand. The Ayn Rand philosophy is called "Objectivism" and the groups that promote her and her philosophy are groups like the "Ayn Rand Institute" and the "Objectivist Center" who are both competing for followers and hate each other's guts.

Other famous Ayn Rand believers

Jennifer Aniston
Christina Ricci
Rob Lowe
Sandra Bullock
Blossom star Mayim Bialik
Jerry Lewis
Alan Greenspan (a close associate and dsiciple of Rand)
John Stossel
Hillary Clinton
And many more celebrities and well known people in government and media.

If you want to know what Ayn Radn is all about see these critiques

http://victoria.tc.ca/int-grps/books/techrev/bkatshrg.rvw

http://www.strangewords.com/archive/ayn.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20020124040704/http://www.linguafranca.com/9909/rand.html

It's essentially selfishness trying to be disguised as a philosophy for stupid rich people.

Brad and Angelina are said to be trying to get Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" produced with Oliver Stone as producer.

There is a scientology connection to all this. Before scientology existed there was it's forerunner dianetics. Dianetics was very popular throughout colege campuses in the 1950's and early 60's before Hubbard changed it into scientology. Dianetics lost a lot of followers to the Objectivist movement when it became popular on campuses in the eary 1960's.

Posted at 7:30PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Rasta Avatar

92. I disagree with Roecker. Scientology is so uncool that it must obviously must be hetero!

Posted at 7:30PM on Jun 13th 2006 by ksd

93. Religous beliefs or the lack of them should be a highly personal thing. If there's one certainty in life it's that any set of beliefs will be judged ludicrous, idiotic, simplistic, or imbecilic by a large number of people with wildly divergent perspectives. When public life in America was much more civilized, people actually avoided making such pathetically annoying and transparently grandstanding pronouncements about their beliefs. They were mature and intelligent enough to understand that it was none of anybody else's business. Besides, anyone who does take an abiding interest in the beliefs of others is almost certainly up to no good, and should be locked up or lobotomized on general principles of public safety.

Posted at 7:32PM on Jun 13th 2006 by RobNichols

94. To the attorney with the heightened sense of his own
analytical prowess, you ought to know that your grammar and
English are pretty poor. That's "relevant", and "I am an
attorney, which lends itself" is simply bad writing. The phrase
"I am an attorney" doesn't lend itself to anything,
grammatically speaking. Perhaps your secretary could lend
you his or her copy of Strunk & White?

And plenty of Americans are mocking the beliefs of Muslims,
from the government representative who just stated that
the suicides in Gitmo prove that these people dont' value
their own lives like we do, to those who see the burqua as
a symbol of oppression of women - every Iranian woman I
know couldn't care less about whether or not they have to
wear the burqua and think it's ridiculous and contrived that
the Bush government makes so much of the custom.

Posted at 7:33PM on Jun 13th 2006 by sarah miles

95. Free Katie!

Posted at 7:35PM on Jun 13th 2006 by arlene

96. Religous beliefs or the lack of them should be a highly personal thing. If there's one certainty in life it's that any set of beliefs will be judged ludicrous, idiotic, simplistic, or imbecilic by a large number of people with wildly divergent perspectives. When public life in America was much more civilized, people actually avoided making such pathetically annoying and transparently grandstanding pronouncements about their beliefs. They were mature and intelligent enough to understand that it was none of anybody else's business. Besides, anyone who does take an abiding interest in the beliefs of others is almost certainly up to no good, and should be locked up or lobotomized on general principles of public safety.

Posted at 7:35PM on Jun 13th 2006 by RobNichols

97. I am sorry to say Robyn, but for an attorney you seem to know so little about Scientology.
First and foremost Scientology is in no way a religion, well as religious as a cult can be. It's not a coincidence that the "Church of Scientology" isn't as far as I know actually a registered church in the US, because it requires members to pay a fee. In Germany it is even banned, because it is a cult. Freedom of speech in all honour, but it should only go so far. And if you consider parts of Scientology more believable than other religions, please feel free to smack yourself.
This sentence for instance: "Or deflowering X number of virgins in heaven after you blow people up."
Is ignorant, because that is simply just the interpretation of the fundamentalists, just like the crusades. These things are done by abusing a religion. Theoretically Scientology can be abused (if that isn't already the case) to squeeze the last bit of money out. It is such a tightly knit organisation, no one would notice. After all, it is just an invention of a science-fiction author who had a dream or vision of some kind.

Please, re-educate yourself before posting such comments and posting with your job.


P.S.: please mind the tad bits of humour I sprinkled in this post.

Posted at 7:36PM on Jun 13th 2006 by MJM

98. People, please. We are all fodder for others' criticism,
all of the time. It is called free speech and we are bloody
well lucky to have it. This is much ado about nothing. (And
some free publicity for Roecker.)

My personal opinion? Anyone who believes in Xenu and its
ex-pats on earth is equally as loony as those who worship a
zombie bastard son of a virgin raping psycho-god.

All gods are silly. They just are. And all religions (nearly all,
barring a couple of eastern religions) are cults by definition.
If you don't believe me, look it up.

Bottom line: Take a deep breath and stop knotting your knickers
over something that is virtually none of your business. Or
anyone else's for that matter.

Posted at 7:39PM on Jun 13th 2006 by dover soul

99. Where can I get one of those shirts? Love it!
Too funny.

Posted at 7:47PM on Jun 13th 2006 by jodylynn

100. Hilarious! Anything to tear down this chuckle-headed cult is beautiful. John, can you make me one of those shirts too?!

Posted at 7:48PM on Jun 13th 2006 by sallyrover

101. A lawyer preaching on ethics after telling us that he's better than us BECAUSE he's a lawyer? LOL, enough said. Anyway, I'm not in the least bit close-minded but I think Scientologists have time and time again proven that 1) They're crazy and so 2) This must be a cult. *SIGH*

Posted at 7:51PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Joann

102. Hey Lawyer........you think Christians aren't attacked??? What planet are you living on? Wake up and smell the coffee.......and while your at it, ask yourself why your kid isn't allowed to pray in school!

Posted at 7:54PM on Jun 13th 2006 by Deanne

103. ". I am, however, an attorney, which lends itself to a more heightened level of analysis than the average fellow American..."

Oh for gods' sake, another attorney who is full of him/herself.

As a supposed attorney, I would presume you are familiar with the right to free speech, including speech on a t-shirt? Screaming at someone for exercising their right to free speech is not cool, and to some, like myself, definitely whacko.

Scientologists sure are defensive about their "religion." If a little t-shirt throws them over the edge, maybe they should talk to some Jewish people about the centuries of persecution they've suffered. To Jenna and your husband - get over yourselves, try not to be so defensive about your beliefs and "let it go." I see bumper stickers that I find offensive every day, such as the one with Calvin peeing on something. But I don't accost the person who placed it on their car. It's their right, and so I avert my eyes and move on.

Posted at 7:57PM on Jun 13th 2006 by ScientologyIsGay!

104. Well said KY...VERY WELL SAID!!!!

I couldn't agree more ;)

Posted at 7:57PM on Jun 13th 2006 by lilme

105. ''I'LL WEAR ANY SHIRT , THAT I WANT TO !!!
' WELLLL, THERE GOES ONE OF MY FAVORITE [RERUNS] SHOWS''

Posted at 7:59PM on Jun 13th 2006 by JEANNE

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