Madonna: Hot or Has-Been?

MadonnaThe Hater-
It happens to every artist. It happened to The Stones, The Ramones, Whitney Houston and now, it has happened to Madonna. It's sad but true... Madonna has lost her relevance as a pop artist.

Oh she'll still sell out large sports arenas and her album will still chart when it hits the streets., but you're not gonna hear the average 12 year-old  say they wanna be like Madonna, like they did in droves in the '80s. They're more likely to emulate Xtina, Kelly Clarkson, or (god forbid) Fergie.

Now our beloved Madonna didn't just fall off the relevant radar over night. It was a long, painful process that took years to complete.  


Lets break it down:

She became religious
It didn't work for Bob Dylan, why would it work for you.

She chose the Kaballah
Say what you want about this ancient Jewish mysticism, but to the average American it's nothing more then a Hollywood fad. With its red string bracelet and cancer-curing water, it's hard for folks to support a theology propped up by a woman who coos us to "Justify Her Love."

She moved to the UK
She married Brit director Guy Richie, you know, the guy who did the "Snatch" movie. Within what seemed like hours, she was conducting interviews with a British accent. We're all just happy she didn't move to France, then she would be unintelligible.

She released "American Life"
Or as it's otherwise known, the album that jumped the shark. She appeared on the cover as Ché and suddenly she was a revolutionary who rapped- yes, rapped- about lattés and pilates. The accompanying video was reedited to remove Madonna throwing a hand grenade at George Bush. Who did the re-editing? MTV? The record label? No. Madonna did. It was filled with images of war and she didn't want to offend anyone. The whole situation may have been a bit more controversial if the video and song weren't completely unwatchable and unlistenable.

She got on the light up cross
Years ago. Madonna had this song "Like A Prayer." It pissed off everyone. The video had burning crosses, a black Jesus making out with Madonna and unnecessary bowing at the end. The Church hated it, your parents hated it, teachers told you how horrible Madonna was to disrespect religion and we, well, we loved it. It was a great song with a compelling video. (Hell, I'm humming it right now.) Now Madonna brings out a huge light up cross on her tour. Sure, a few church groups got upset. but these are the people who think Harry Potter is leading us to hell, one book at a time. But, for the most part, no one cared. A collective yawn filled the land and we moved on. Been there, done that.

Madonna will still sell huge amounts of records and sell out venues, but please keep in mind so does Celine Dion and Barbara Streisand. Her relevancy is on the wane. Relax Madonna, you deserve a rest- you've earned it. Let us remember the good times and not the image of a woman struggling to to stay in the limelight at any cost.


madonnaThe Celebrater-
Here we go again.  Every time Madonna has a new album or tour, inevitably the question of 'is she still relevant' is raised.  The fact that we are still having this conversation is proof alone that we still care.

Madonna's first album came out in 1983, making her career almost as old as Britney Spears, and she's still topping the charts. Her latest album "Confessions on a Dance Floor" debuted at #1 and her tour is destined to be the top-selling tour of the year. 12-year-olds may be a large chunk of the record buying public, but they're about as fickle with their musical tastes as Paris Hilton is with boyfriends.  While singers like Kelly Clarkson and Fergie may have the kids' attention now, see where those ladies are in 23 years - then we'll talk.

Kaballah isn't a fad, it's been around for thousands of years.  Madonna didn't join Kaballah because it was trendy; Madonna joined Kaballah - that's why it's trendy.  From wearing rosaries to vogueing to Kaballah, what Madonna does - people follow.  Maybe 12-year-olds aren't signing up, but their mothers are.

Madonna's British accent may not be your cup of tea, but it makes much more sense than Xtina's, Timberlake's or Fergie's. Nothing says fraud like a blonde hair, blue-eyed suburbanite touting the latest gangsta slang like it's their own. Talk about sounding unintelligible, yo!

Madge's rapping was not the highlight of her career, but "American Life" still debuted at #1.  Further proving she still had her finger on the pulse, Madonna filmed the Bush-bashing video in February of 2003, a month before the Dixie Chicks lashed out and several years before polls made it ok for even the reddest of conservatives to do so. Madonna may have edited her video before anyone could ban it, but let's not forget we were on the eve of war.  People proclaimed Madonna had softened, in actuality the mother of two was just showing the world she had grown up.

If Madonna isn't causing uproars like she was twenty years ago then you can blame...Madonna.  From sex to religious controversies to gay visibility, the Material Girl pushed issues and topics that at one-time were considered taboo but today don't even raise an eyebrow.  Thank God Madonna has been there and done that, it's because of people like her that today we have a more tolerant society. So the next time you find yourself bored by Lady M's latest endeavor, no need to yawn - a thank you will suffice.

At 47, Madonna's body is in the best shape of her life. While other pop stars from the 80s have faded or remained in the press solely for their legal woes (Can you say Jacko, Boy George, George Michael or Whitney?), Madonna is still kickin' ass.  Maybe if people stopped wanting her to be something she used to be, they'd realize just how much fun they could be having dancing to her latest hit.

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151. she is an old bag. i wouldn't even pay a cent to see her. worst, her music suck more now then before

Posted at 12:42AM on Jun 20th 2006 by sonam

152. she nothing but an old bag. people who still go to see her are more crazy. she can't even sing. those who works for are good that they amek her do somethng that'll shock and lo she is in the NEWS. her music sucks more now then before. old gap teeth ho

Posted at 12:49AM on Jun 20th 2006 by sonam

153. 'You live by the sword, you die by the sword', musically. She spent her entire "career" denigrating mainstream conservative America values, God and His church and was an instrumental tool that brought about much of the debauchery we witnessed in the rock industry during the late eighties/early nineties. The bigger the cross she wore, the more guilt and sin she bore.

It’s unfortunate that her legacy will be remembered as an instrument through which Satan accomplished part of his agenda.

Posted at 1:12PM on Jun 20th 2006 by MLK

154. The head of the Kabbalah Centre in Tel Aviv was arrested in October 2005 for extorting $60,000 from a woman dying of cancer. She was told she would be cured. She died and her family was bankrupt.

The Chief Rabbi of England put out a warning telling people to beware of the Kabbalah Centre after it tried to get thousands of dollars from a woman "to cleanse the souls of her dead parents",

This is what Madonna puts her faith in???

Posted at 12:47PM on Jun 21st 2006 by david schatzky

155. Lay off Madonna?
Yeah, somebody ought to lay her off.
The article talks about kaballah being hot because of Madonna? The kaballah she joined is not the real thing but a perverted version geared towards getting people to part with their money. It seems the author doesn't know whether to praise or dump on Madonna. I say dump away.

Posted at 12:54AM on Jun 22nd 2006 by JS

156. Why do people bother talking about the cross scene in the show?? Her thinking behind it is so clearly obvious. The media crucifies her for every single decision she ever has and ever will make, so why not get a head start on them?
Nice one, Madonna. you still have your tongue planted firmly in your cheek.

Posted at 5:17PM on Jun 28th 2006 by Evan

157. Madonna definitely is totally overrated. She is not a very good singer, and her songs (if she even writes them at all) are repetitive and dull. Almost everything that she does also becomes dated after about 10 years. Whenever I hear old Madonna songs from the 1980s, I actually get really depressed. "Material Girl" may have been cute and clever when it came out, but over time you start to see it for what it really is: a boring song that is lacking in any kind of interesting musical elements. One good thing about Madonna, on the other hand, is that she is interesting in a visual kind of way. Musically, however, she really is not that good.I even question whether she is that great of an entertainer. For instance, when I was watching the Live Aid video, it was pretty clear that the audience was damn bored. I did not see any kind of enthusiasm for her performance as she bopped around on the stage.

Some people might say that Madonna is a good role model for women. But in a way, she is not such a good role model. The fact that she has attained great success without really having any kind of musical talent sort of implies that, even if you do not have talent or skill, you can move up in the work by just whoring yourself around and making lots of noise. That, in turn, could make people suspicious of women who are successful. After all, maybe they all just whored their way to the top in an unfair way.

Posted at 7:27PM on Jul 9th 2006 by Moab's Mama

158. Pls.don't include WHITNEY on your list. She's still the VOICE- and the greatest may I add-the most exquisite in all the world.She may still be not in the limelight
right now but give her a few more months and she'll WOW everybody again like she used to. Remember all the record she shattered.Indeed, the record is not over yet.

Posted at 5:32AM on Jul 14th 2006 by Gerry

159. Let me see if I understand this correctly, a woman who lives in a world dominated by men is calling Madonna a whore?
So where are you finding your information, prove it to us and reveal your sources that it's an actual fact that she's a whore.. you are a neanderthal if you believe that anyone in show business hasn't had to compromise on some level and that doesn't mean sexually. The tabloids exacerbate the tiniest thing and even make things up about celebrities and you obviously buy into it like a mindless troll with tunnel vision. Low brow to say the least, then again neanderthals were known for that brow ridge now weren't they?
Madonna has never to my knowledge made any claim of being a perfect pitch singer or anything to that effect... her success has been due to timing, following pop culture trends and acting on it, taking chances (which means she has guts) and the public has responded to her and those who are fair see in her a strong capable woman who has a handle on her keen astute business sense. Remember Winston Churchill once said "Success isn't final and failure isn't fatal", the strength lies in the fact that a person keeps on trying and Madonna has that in spades. I'd like to see you do better. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Posted at 2:03PM on Jul 15th 2006 by Steve

160. I love M

Posted at 3:20PM on Jul 19th 2006 by danielle

161. This is all ridicouls

Posted at 3:21PM on Jul 19th 2006 by danielle

162. Madonna's the GREATEST POPSTAR THAT EVER LIVED! And there's nothin' more to say.............

Posted at 4:27PM on Jul 19th 2006 by Andru

163. C'mon, get real - she's the one & the only..
Real ICON like Elvis, Marilyn, Jim Morrison... but, still alive.
Of course, she's not perfect, and her music too. But, most of the time, she's on top. She enterntains the world, makes people happy, moves them to dance and what's important - sometimes educates them (she's great example how to be selfconfident & selfesteemed).
And, on the end, it's just showbusiness. It's not question of life or dead.
She has her own family, friends... enjoys the life and finally - she's master in her job.

Posted at 4:52AM on Jul 20th 2006 by de_M

164. Madonna on stage: pure ART

Posted at 4:59AM on Jul 20th 2006 by de_M

165. If I was Madonna, I would take the late 20's to late 30's something fan base. They are the ones who have the money to buy the CD's and $400 concert tickets. 12 year old fans? Sure they can buy the CD and pass it around to all their friends and then they forget about you tomorrow.

Posted at 8:32AM on Jul 20th 2006 by Don

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