Madonna: Hot or Has-Been?

MadonnaThe Hater-
It happens to every artist. It happened to The Stones, The Ramones, Whitney Houston and now, it has happened to Madonna. It's sad but true... Madonna has lost her relevance as a pop artist.

Oh she'll still sell out large sports arenas and her album will still chart when it hits the streets., but you're not gonna hear the average 12 year-old  say they wanna be like Madonna, like they did in droves in the '80s. They're more likely to emulate Xtina, Kelly Clarkson, or (god forbid) Fergie.

Now our beloved Madonna didn't just fall off the relevant radar over night. It was a long, painful process that took years to complete.  


Lets break it down:

She became religious
It didn't work for Bob Dylan, why would it work for you.

She chose the Kaballah
Say what you want about this ancient Jewish mysticism, but to the average American it's nothing more then a Hollywood fad. With its red string bracelet and cancer-curing water, it's hard for folks to support a theology propped up by a woman who coos us to "Justify Her Love."

She moved to the UK
She married Brit director Guy Richie, you know, the guy who did the "Snatch" movie. Within what seemed like hours, she was conducting interviews with a British accent. We're all just happy she didn't move to France, then she would be unintelligible.

She released "American Life"
Or as it's otherwise known, the album that jumped the shark. She appeared on the cover as Ché and suddenly she was a revolutionary who rapped- yes, rapped- about lattés and pilates. The accompanying video was reedited to remove Madonna throwing a hand grenade at George Bush. Who did the re-editing? MTV? The record label? No. Madonna did. It was filled with images of war and she didn't want to offend anyone. The whole situation may have been a bit more controversial if the video and song weren't completely unwatchable and unlistenable.

She got on the light up cross
Years ago. Madonna had this song "Like A Prayer." It pissed off everyone. The video had burning crosses, a black Jesus making out with Madonna and unnecessary bowing at the end. The Church hated it, your parents hated it, teachers told you how horrible Madonna was to disrespect religion and we, well, we loved it. It was a great song with a compelling video. (Hell, I'm humming it right now.) Now Madonna brings out a huge light up cross on her tour. Sure, a few church groups got upset. but these are the people who think Harry Potter is leading us to hell, one book at a time. But, for the most part, no one cared. A collective yawn filled the land and we moved on. Been there, done that.

Madonna will still sell huge amounts of records and sell out venues, but please keep in mind so does Celine Dion and Barbara Streisand. Her relevancy is on the wane. Relax Madonna, you deserve a rest- you've earned it. Let us remember the good times and not the image of a woman struggling to to stay in the limelight at any cost.


madonnaThe Celebrater-
Here we go again.  Every time Madonna has a new album or tour, inevitably the question of 'is she still relevant' is raised.  The fact that we are still having this conversation is proof alone that we still care.

Madonna's first album came out in 1983, making her career almost as old as Britney Spears, and she's still topping the charts. Her latest album "Confessions on a Dance Floor" debuted at #1 and her tour is destined to be the top-selling tour of the year. 12-year-olds may be a large chunk of the record buying public, but they're about as fickle with their musical tastes as Paris Hilton is with boyfriends.  While singers like Kelly Clarkson and Fergie may have the kids' attention now, see where those ladies are in 23 years - then we'll talk.

Kaballah isn't a fad, it's been around for thousands of years.  Madonna didn't join Kaballah because it was trendy; Madonna joined Kaballah - that's why it's trendy.  From wearing rosaries to vogueing to Kaballah, what Madonna does - people follow.  Maybe 12-year-olds aren't signing up, but their mothers are.

Madonna's British accent may not be your cup of tea, but it makes much more sense than Xtina's, Timberlake's or Fergie's. Nothing says fraud like a blonde hair, blue-eyed suburbanite touting the latest gangsta slang like it's their own. Talk about sounding unintelligible, yo!

Madge's rapping was not the highlight of her career, but "American Life" still debuted at #1.  Further proving she still had her finger on the pulse, Madonna filmed the Bush-bashing video in February of 2003, a month before the Dixie Chicks lashed out and several years before polls made it ok for even the reddest of conservatives to do so. Madonna may have edited her video before anyone could ban it, but let's not forget we were on the eve of war.  People proclaimed Madonna had softened, in actuality the mother of two was just showing the world she had grown up.

If Madonna isn't causing uproars like she was twenty years ago then you can blame...Madonna.  From sex to religious controversies to gay visibility, the Material Girl pushed issues and topics that at one-time were considered taboo but today don't even raise an eyebrow.  Thank God Madonna has been there and done that, it's because of people like her that today we have a more tolerant society. So the next time you find yourself bored by Lady M's latest endeavor, no need to yawn - a thank you will suffice.

At 47, Madonna's body is in the best shape of her life. While other pop stars from the 80s have faded or remained in the press solely for their legal woes (Can you say Jacko, Boy George, George Michael or Whitney?), Madonna is still kickin' ass.  Maybe if people stopped wanting her to be something she used to be, they'd realize just how much fun they could be having dancing to her latest hit.

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31. Madonna is awesome and unique.
It s such one more shame for America under the Bush Treatments that they gave Madonna such a bad time after she published her great Erotica Album and the Sex Book.
Love her Confessions Album.

America - What Time is Love? You do so muchg wrong in those Days.

Posted at 12:57PM on Jun 17th 2006 by UweB

32. Come on people, like her or not, she has been at the forefront of pop for 23YEARS! That alone makes her a legend. Honestly, do you think Kelly Clarkson or Britney, or Shakira, will be making number one chart topping songs at 47? Nope. There is only one Madonna and whether you like it or not the woman is here to stay. No one is forcing people to buy her albums or sell out her tours at the biggest stadiums world wide! People like her!

Posted at 1:08PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Billy

33. Madonna is done. She packed the house here in LA during the kickoff of her next tour, and will probably be a hit in Europe but in the US I would have to say she's finished. She can't go to acing because she can't act. She's been through so many transformations I can't really say I know who she is anymore. One has to be a hard core fan already to like her. Everyone says what a bright businesswoman she is, but few mention what a sensational voice she has. Cause her voice sucks.

Posted at 1:13PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Stephen Martin

34. I can only continue to love and admire a woman
who started her career with $35 and a suitcase packed for NYC....She is and never has been, afraid to march to the tune of her own drummer...makes no apologies for her decisions or statements for art's sake.

She is strong, intelligent and an excellent biz woman.
She happens to be beautiful, as well. And, she is into
the natural mode of taking care of herself. Claims what is
real; multi-talented.
What about the tea bag accent? That's part of what "reinventing oneself means...developing any or all parts of your identity.
She is a woman who left home, started her career...and basically
raised herself, since her mother died when Madonna
was only 8 yrs old. She is, you can bet~ an outstanding mom, partly due to that fact.
Anything but shallow. Real enough to say she thinks a "nip/tuck" is wonderful if one decides to do that.
And.....she will age and "wane" gracefully.
BTW: she's famous..and you're not.

Posted at 1:32PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Lisa

35. We're using the tastes of 12-YEAR-OLDS as a barometer of relevance? That's sad. I guess that means Pussycat Dolls and Rihanna are today's most important artists.

Posted at 1:32PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Jen

36. I wonder whether the author of the all the "I love Madonna" comments is Madonna, herself...

Posted at 1:38PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Moomsie

37. I love Madonna and stuff, but its soo true she's not as good as she was before. you listen to the stuff from the 80s and the stuff from now and its way different. also i didnt like what she did with the crosses either, is disrespectufl, but hey its madonna she gets away with it.

Posted at 1:46PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Maria

38. I did not like Madonna in the 80's and do not like her now. Because she has to resort to stunts such as humiliating religions or a president who can accually keep his pants up in the oval office for the entertainment of her fans only proves what little talent she accually has. For the most part people can poke humor towards their respective religions, but completely disrespecting and spitting on what some might believe is disguisting.

As for her age, I believe that entertainers can always show off what talents they have no matter their age. Madonna hasn't had any other talent other than her shock value..I wonder if people will be entertained when she is lowered from that burning cross as a stage hand is handing her her walker.

Posted at 1:47PM on Jun 17th 2006 by lucy

39. Barbra Streisand still sells records?????

Posted at 2:02PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Barry

40. Madonna is simply FANTASTIC.after 20 years of being in the spotlight , she is still , the only artist in the world that is known and liked across the bord...from 12 to 70 , she manages to have fans....
she is the best model a woman can have , she is showing the world , that a woman can grow graciously, have babies , and look great at almost 50.
she is using her popularity to deliver messages of peace and self realisation, her last album is simply incredible , please people , just listen to it carefully , it is a strong and very empowering album....
Madonna is simply like no one else EVER , she cannot be compared , she has always be unique , and will always be unique.
How can anyone critisize her? she is only trying to make our world a better world....
Her new tour is incredible....at almost 50 , she's surpassed herself , everone is just stunned to see the show.....
the question is : HOW DOES SHE DO IT?
Madonna is the best model for our pop culture , and i feel bad for people who are not able to see that....

Posted at 2:37PM on Jun 17th 2006 by ivan

41. maybe not 12 but my 4 and 5 year old nieces love madonna and know the lyrics to hungup.sorry.and most of her album. They love her.

Posted at 2:57PM on Jun 17th 2006 by hexic

42. Madonna hasn't been culturally relevant in a long time - I'd say her influence peaked with Erotica/ Sex and ended with Bedtime Stories. Since then, she's just been glomming onto whatever trends other people have started (Bjork, WIlliam Orbit, Stuart Price) and rode them till the wheels fell off. She should just rest assured in the knowledge that there will always be a fanbase of annoyingly screechy gay men with disposable incomes to exploit.

Posted at 3:10PM on Jun 17th 2006 by maxxii

43. I have to agree, that Madonna is pretty much washed up.... yeah she can write, produce music, and she can dance... but it has been over 20 years.... she's done everything as an artist... what is left for her? i think she should just stick to writing and producing music... there is really nothing left for her to prove... she is old and it's time to just focus only on music/touring.... as for everything else just let the youngs one take over..... i just saw her last tour "confessions of a dance floor" i thought it was a bit boring, cuz i've seen all her concerts, now she seems like she is just repeating herself as an artist......

Posted at 3:28PM on Jun 17th 2006 by thomas crown

44. My nine-year-old sister loves her. Don't make mass generalizations like that.

Posted at 3:35PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Chris

45. I just went to the concert last night in Chicago. I was maybe 12 feet from her when she was on my side of the stage.Is she relevent....based on the response that I saw from the crowd I would say a resounding ....YES!
Did Donna Summer, Bette Midler and Cher open doors for Madonna....definitely! In the confessions tour she pays homage to Donna Summer.

Posted at 3:38PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Nels

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