Madonna: Hot or Has-Been?

MadonnaThe Hater-
It happens to every artist. It happened to The Stones, The Ramones, Whitney Houston and now, it has happened to Madonna. It's sad but true... Madonna has lost her relevance as a pop artist.

Oh she'll still sell out large sports arenas and her album will still chart when it hits the streets., but you're not gonna hear the average 12 year-old  say they wanna be like Madonna, like they did in droves in the '80s. They're more likely to emulate Xtina, Kelly Clarkson, or (god forbid) Fergie.

Now our beloved Madonna didn't just fall off the relevant radar over night. It was a long, painful process that took years to complete.  


Lets break it down:

She became religious
It didn't work for Bob Dylan, why would it work for you.

She chose the Kaballah
Say what you want about this ancient Jewish mysticism, but to the average American it's nothing more then a Hollywood fad. With its red string bracelet and cancer-curing water, it's hard for folks to support a theology propped up by a woman who coos us to "Justify Her Love."

She moved to the UK
She married Brit director Guy Richie, you know, the guy who did the "Snatch" movie. Within what seemed like hours, she was conducting interviews with a British accent. We're all just happy she didn't move to France, then she would be unintelligible.

She released "American Life"
Or as it's otherwise known, the album that jumped the shark. She appeared on the cover as Ché and suddenly she was a revolutionary who rapped- yes, rapped- about lattés and pilates. The accompanying video was reedited to remove Madonna throwing a hand grenade at George Bush. Who did the re-editing? MTV? The record label? No. Madonna did. It was filled with images of war and she didn't want to offend anyone. The whole situation may have been a bit more controversial if the video and song weren't completely unwatchable and unlistenable.

She got on the light up cross
Years ago. Madonna had this song "Like A Prayer." It pissed off everyone. The video had burning crosses, a black Jesus making out with Madonna and unnecessary bowing at the end. The Church hated it, your parents hated it, teachers told you how horrible Madonna was to disrespect religion and we, well, we loved it. It was a great song with a compelling video. (Hell, I'm humming it right now.) Now Madonna brings out a huge light up cross on her tour. Sure, a few church groups got upset. but these are the people who think Harry Potter is leading us to hell, one book at a time. But, for the most part, no one cared. A collective yawn filled the land and we moved on. Been there, done that.

Madonna will still sell huge amounts of records and sell out venues, but please keep in mind so does Celine Dion and Barbara Streisand. Her relevancy is on the wane. Relax Madonna, you deserve a rest- you've earned it. Let us remember the good times and not the image of a woman struggling to to stay in the limelight at any cost.


madonnaThe Celebrater-
Here we go again.  Every time Madonna has a new album or tour, inevitably the question of 'is she still relevant' is raised.  The fact that we are still having this conversation is proof alone that we still care.

Madonna's first album came out in 1983, making her career almost as old as Britney Spears, and she's still topping the charts. Her latest album "Confessions on a Dance Floor" debuted at #1 and her tour is destined to be the top-selling tour of the year. 12-year-olds may be a large chunk of the record buying public, but they're about as fickle with their musical tastes as Paris Hilton is with boyfriends.  While singers like Kelly Clarkson and Fergie may have the kids' attention now, see where those ladies are in 23 years - then we'll talk.

Kaballah isn't a fad, it's been around for thousands of years.  Madonna didn't join Kaballah because it was trendy; Madonna joined Kaballah - that's why it's trendy.  From wearing rosaries to vogueing to Kaballah, what Madonna does - people follow.  Maybe 12-year-olds aren't signing up, but their mothers are.

Madonna's British accent may not be your cup of tea, but it makes much more sense than Xtina's, Timberlake's or Fergie's. Nothing says fraud like a blonde hair, blue-eyed suburbanite touting the latest gangsta slang like it's their own. Talk about sounding unintelligible, yo!

Madge's rapping was not the highlight of her career, but "American Life" still debuted at #1.  Further proving she still had her finger on the pulse, Madonna filmed the Bush-bashing video in February of 2003, a month before the Dixie Chicks lashed out and several years before polls made it ok for even the reddest of conservatives to do so. Madonna may have edited her video before anyone could ban it, but let's not forget we were on the eve of war.  People proclaimed Madonna had softened, in actuality the mother of two was just showing the world she had grown up.

If Madonna isn't causing uproars like she was twenty years ago then you can blame...Madonna.  From sex to religious controversies to gay visibility, the Material Girl pushed issues and topics that at one-time were considered taboo but today don't even raise an eyebrow.  Thank God Madonna has been there and done that, it's because of people like her that today we have a more tolerant society. So the next time you find yourself bored by Lady M's latest endeavor, no need to yawn - a thank you will suffice.

At 47, Madonna's body is in the best shape of her life. While other pop stars from the 80s have faded or remained in the press solely for their legal woes (Can you say Jacko, Boy George, George Michael or Whitney?), Madonna is still kickin' ass.  Maybe if people stopped wanting her to be something she used to be, they'd realize just how much fun they could be having dancing to her latest hit.

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46. She needs to get over herself

Posted at 3:53PM on Jun 17th 2006 by karrie

47. I love her, I love her, I love her.

BUT my girl is a has-been- actually a HOT HASBEEN- she's still out there doing music that's being done by people half her age and people seem to think she's so
"cutting edge" every time a new album comes out by her and usually it sounds like cutting edge from 5 or 6 years ago---just like the Confessions album- I wish the woman would use that guitar she seems to know how to play and do an album with it and regular musicians. NO it won't be cutting edge but at least it won't be the tired (but excellent) stuff she's doing these days.

Posted at 3:55PM on Jun 17th 2006 by neeley harrod

48. HELLO!!! MADONNA IS IN A LEAGUE OF HER OWN...HOW THE HELL DO EXPLAIN THE FACT SHE MANAGES TO KEEP UP ON THINGS AND AHEAD OF THIS BUSINESS CALLED SHOWBIZ...HELLO OVER 20YEARS AND SHE STILL GETS THE HEADLINES...SELLS RECORDS...PUTS ON A HELL OF SHOW...WHICH WILL BE THE HIGHEST GROSSING CONCERT SERIES THIS YEARS...JUST LIKE HER LAST ONE...OH YEAH AND AT ALMOST 50YEARS OLD SHE HAS A BODY OF DEATH THAT SOME 18YRS WISH THEY HAD...HATS OFF TO THE THE QUEEN OF POP AND SHOWBIZ...LADY MADONNA IS LIKE NO OTHER...

Posted at 4:04PM on Jun 17th 2006 by david

49. Madonna is in a league of her own, so you cannot even comprehend her status if you are comparing her to Kelly Clarkson. Madonna went to New York with nothing but a suitcase and now she sells out stadiums in TEN minutes. Why would you even mention 12 year olds taste in music? They don't have any rights in the real world, such as voting and driving, because their judgement is not mature enough at twelve. I'm 16 which is still young and in my opinion the music consuming public, and I have so much respect for Madonna because I realize the longevity and success of her career, and also her music is absolutely amazing. "Hollywood, American Life, Beautiful Stranger, Ray of Light, Don't Tell Me, Hung Up, Sorry," and those are after her 'glory days' as some might call it. She's not a has been, she's not dead. When you are 50 do you want the world to tell you to quit your job although you are completely capable and thriving? She is an artist, entertaining is her job, she loves her job, I love her, so shut the F up and let her make music.

I'M GOING TO HER CONCERT THIS SUMMER!!!

Posted at 4:14PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Kate

50. I can't believe someone mused the idea that Madonna was writing the supportive comments herself.

That is possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It's sad that the thought even crossed your mind.

Posted at 4:19PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Kate

51. Madonna is the most successful artist of all time.She is a big legend in the history of music.I love her music and i am big fan to her.She is greatest artist ever.Britney Spears is the worst artist ever Madonna is much better than her.Madonna is much better than artists of today for example Christina Aguilera,Jennifer lopez,Kelly Clarkson,Beyonce and more.I love Madonna and she always being the number one.Madonna is increible and still looks wonderful.She is amazing.The world love Madonna forever.I love Madonna.

Posted at 4:44PM on Jun 17th 2006 by glorymar zavala morales

52. Madonna is nothing less than a slut. I say let this whore retire to england.

Posted at 5:05PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Jake Hahn

53. Give it up Madonna, your a mother- act like one and make your kids not have to be ashamed of you. I don't care how good your body is, time has taken a toll on everything else must have been from all the drugs in the 80's....

Posted at 5:12PM on Jun 17th 2006 by its me

54. Madonna will do anything for attention...just like "Like a Prayer"....and she is still trying to get attention. Look at her...she has children and she has no respect for herself, them or other people....and she certainly has no respect for God/Jesus. If people wouldl stop giving her that attention by buying her CDs, buying magazines with her on the cover, or going to her concerts, she would soon get the message. Society needs to clean up.

Posted at 5:12PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Kimberly

55. Thank you...I flippin cannot stand that self rightous biatch! Who has that much money and does nothing good with it but try to find more way to make money. She is nasty..and childrens books?? ya, I have kids and could never read them a book by madonna without thinking of her nasty little phases. Her vocal abilites suck, always have...her ablity to pick catchy good music is wonderful...and the only reason she was ever famous. Ohhhh, I just think she is a tasteless person!

Posted at 5:26PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Shana

56. Anyone who has anything remotely negative to say about Madonna is an ignorant, jealous, A-hole! I can't believe people posting their two-cents about an ARTIST who created more in her lifetime then your entire family tree! You ain't SH#T! You're Mom ain't SH#T! You're Grandma ain't SH#T! You're Great-Grandma sucks Satan's penis in hell!
MADONNA IS THE SHIT!!!!! Get over it mf Losers!

Posted at 5:43PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Onitnas

57. Regardless of what anyone thinks, says or does to discredit Madonna, she is still here, she's still 'besting' a lot of younger artists and she's still viable regardless of her age. There is no rule governing any country that says that a person is washed up and ready for 'the end' because they're in their 40's... there is and should be room for everyone, not just the younger crowd, because that is blatant ageism. Negative people you might want to think about some councelling to improve your outlook. Just because you aren't doing what Madonna does, or "can't" do what she does is no reason for you become a hateful person, all that does is injure who you are at your core... well that and show how ignorant you are.
Madonna is here to stay, GET USED TO IT!

Posted at 5:58PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Steve

58. Madonna needs to give it up.. She will become the next Cher.r:
and we all know that all that will become of CHER is silicone in a coffin. Madonna (whats-her-name Ciccione, if even SHE redmbers)is a fake Brit wannabe.. I agree with Sharon Osbourne who says "one day she's a Nazi; the next, she's in a flowery dress reading children's tales" it's like she hasn't even begun to know who the real person inside she is...Grow up, Ciccione, and get a grasp that you're really a mom, a human being, and (GASP!) a LADY...
Don't cry for Me, Argentina!

Posted at 6:33PM on Jun 17th 2006 by morgana myers

59. Writing crap like this only proves how HOT Madonna is still and will always be, if she where not relevant no one would waste time and energy in doing what they have for alomst 25 years ....make huge essays on how she is a has been. This has been broke a multitude of records this year alone...

COADF -- Made world history by going to #1 in more countries than any other artist ever has period...

Hung Up- Went to #1 in more countries than any other single ever has in world history..

Madonna spent a record 22- weeks at #1 on The United World Chart---No one has ever came close.

Madonna had the top two postions at the same time on the United World Chart---a 1st..

Her latest tour is on track to becoming the largest grossing tour ever for a female artist--and this with only a 3 month stint....

She has just landed her 36th #1 selling maxi-single, no one is even close.

She is tied with Elvis for the most top 10 hits ever.

She leads almost ever major country with the most number one SELLING singles.

She is basically the only artist who is relevant in over 100 countries world wide.

She remains without a doubt the most famous person on Earth.

Pretty good for a so-called has been....

Posted at 6:40PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Josh

60. Madonna is great. She may not be as relevant as she was in the 80;s but frankly no one is. Somehow I doubt that any artist around today will sell 200 million records worldwide. That's an achievement and it's because she's put out some really great music. She may be trying too hard now, but so is Prince and so is Bruce Springsteen and so is Paul Simon. Their last albums were virtually unlistenable, yet no one is ragging on them.

Oh, and by the way, it's only America where 12 year olds don't know her new stuff - everywhere else around the world the young kids buy her stuff in droves. Americans as fickle, let's see where 50 Cent, Eminem and Beyonce are in 20 years.

Posted at 6:45PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Eric

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