Madonna: Hot or Has-Been?

MadonnaThe Hater-
It happens to every artist. It happened to The Stones, The Ramones, Whitney Houston and now, it has happened to Madonna. It's sad but true... Madonna has lost her relevance as a pop artist.

Oh she'll still sell out large sports arenas and her album will still chart when it hits the streets., but you're not gonna hear the average 12 year-old  say they wanna be like Madonna, like they did in droves in the '80s. They're more likely to emulate Xtina, Kelly Clarkson, or (god forbid) Fergie.

Now our beloved Madonna didn't just fall off the relevant radar over night. It was a long, painful process that took years to complete.  


Lets break it down:

She became religious
It didn't work for Bob Dylan, why would it work for you.

She chose the Kaballah
Say what you want about this ancient Jewish mysticism, but to the average American it's nothing more then a Hollywood fad. With its red string bracelet and cancer-curing water, it's hard for folks to support a theology propped up by a woman who coos us to "Justify Her Love."

She moved to the UK
She married Brit director Guy Richie, you know, the guy who did the "Snatch" movie. Within what seemed like hours, she was conducting interviews with a British accent. We're all just happy she didn't move to France, then she would be unintelligible.

She released "American Life"
Or as it's otherwise known, the album that jumped the shark. She appeared on the cover as Ché and suddenly she was a revolutionary who rapped- yes, rapped- about lattés and pilates. The accompanying video was reedited to remove Madonna throwing a hand grenade at George Bush. Who did the re-editing? MTV? The record label? No. Madonna did. It was filled with images of war and she didn't want to offend anyone. The whole situation may have been a bit more controversial if the video and song weren't completely unwatchable and unlistenable.

She got on the light up cross
Years ago. Madonna had this song "Like A Prayer." It pissed off everyone. The video had burning crosses, a black Jesus making out with Madonna and unnecessary bowing at the end. The Church hated it, your parents hated it, teachers told you how horrible Madonna was to disrespect religion and we, well, we loved it. It was a great song with a compelling video. (Hell, I'm humming it right now.) Now Madonna brings out a huge light up cross on her tour. Sure, a few church groups got upset. but these are the people who think Harry Potter is leading us to hell, one book at a time. But, for the most part, no one cared. A collective yawn filled the land and we moved on. Been there, done that.

Madonna will still sell huge amounts of records and sell out venues, but please keep in mind so does Celine Dion and Barbara Streisand. Her relevancy is on the wane. Relax Madonna, you deserve a rest- you've earned it. Let us remember the good times and not the image of a woman struggling to to stay in the limelight at any cost.


madonnaThe Celebrater-
Here we go again.  Every time Madonna has a new album or tour, inevitably the question of 'is she still relevant' is raised.  The fact that we are still having this conversation is proof alone that we still care.

Madonna's first album came out in 1983, making her career almost as old as Britney Spears, and she's still topping the charts. Her latest album "Confessions on a Dance Floor" debuted at #1 and her tour is destined to be the top-selling tour of the year. 12-year-olds may be a large chunk of the record buying public, but they're about as fickle with their musical tastes as Paris Hilton is with boyfriends.  While singers like Kelly Clarkson and Fergie may have the kids' attention now, see where those ladies are in 23 years - then we'll talk.

Kaballah isn't a fad, it's been around for thousands of years.  Madonna didn't join Kaballah because it was trendy; Madonna joined Kaballah - that's why it's trendy.  From wearing rosaries to vogueing to Kaballah, what Madonna does - people follow.  Maybe 12-year-olds aren't signing up, but their mothers are.

Madonna's British accent may not be your cup of tea, but it makes much more sense than Xtina's, Timberlake's or Fergie's. Nothing says fraud like a blonde hair, blue-eyed suburbanite touting the latest gangsta slang like it's their own. Talk about sounding unintelligible, yo!

Madge's rapping was not the highlight of her career, but "American Life" still debuted at #1.  Further proving she still had her finger on the pulse, Madonna filmed the Bush-bashing video in February of 2003, a month before the Dixie Chicks lashed out and several years before polls made it ok for even the reddest of conservatives to do so. Madonna may have edited her video before anyone could ban it, but let's not forget we were on the eve of war.  People proclaimed Madonna had softened, in actuality the mother of two was just showing the world she had grown up.

If Madonna isn't causing uproars like she was twenty years ago then you can blame...Madonna.  From sex to religious controversies to gay visibility, the Material Girl pushed issues and topics that at one-time were considered taboo but today don't even raise an eyebrow.  Thank God Madonna has been there and done that, it's because of people like her that today we have a more tolerant society. So the next time you find yourself bored by Lady M's latest endeavor, no need to yawn - a thank you will suffice.

At 47, Madonna's body is in the best shape of her life. While other pop stars from the 80s have faded or remained in the press solely for their legal woes (Can you say Jacko, Boy George, George Michael or Whitney?), Madonna is still kickin' ass.  Maybe if people stopped wanting her to be something she used to be, they'd realize just how much fun they could be having dancing to her latest hit.

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61. TO ALL THE MADONNA HATERS: WHAT HAVE YOU or WILL YOU ACCOMPLISH IN YOUR LIVES?? I'M GUESSING YOU ARE REALLY GOING PLACES SERVING COFFE AT STARBUCKS OR SOMETHING RIGHT? GET OVER YOURSELVES!! LOL!

Posted at 6:45PM on Jun 17th 2006 by MICHAEL McCain

62. I KNOW PERFECTLY MADONNA, AND I TOTALLY LOVE HER!!! I AM 18, I AM YOUNG AND HAVE A GREAT SENSE OF FASHION!!! MY LITTLE 12 YEAR OLD SISTER KNOWS PERFECTLY MADONNA AND MY BIGGER 27 YEAR OLD SISTER TOO, AND GUESS WHO ELSE KNOWS HER AND LOVES HER... OUR MOTHER!!! IF MADONNA SELLS CLOTHES IN THE MOON, WE´LL GO THERE AND BUY THE WHOLE STORE!!! SO WILL MY FRIENDS!!! TO THE PEOPLE WHO SAID THAT SHE´S TOO OLD TO BE THE IMAGE OF ANY STORE...SUCK ON THIS!!!!!

Posted at 7:06PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Lory

63. Why does getting old meaning being a has-been? Obviously, youngsters are going to flock to um, other youngsters (duh), but have we all just entered a really ugly phase... the age of ageism?! Madonna is working and she looks damn good in her 40s. Perhaps there are better entertainers out there, but her music still makes some of us groove.

Posted at 7:47PM on Jun 17th 2006 by BR

64. ICCKK!! Has Been! Definately. Shut your legs, madonna, nobody wants to smell your crotch rot!

Posted at 7:48PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Lee Ann

65. Mad-onna???? YAAAAWWWWN!!! SO OVER!!!!! Why would I care about someone who was famous before I was born?? My mom is hotter than her!

Posted at 8:15PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Barbie H

66. Madge needs to remember she is now FORTY SEVEN, not 27. Sure, she is a milf, but c'mon, have some sense Mrs. Richie! Your kids friends see all this stuff too. And, what does the magical Kabbalah say about prancing around on stage in fishnets & a thong?

Posted at 8:18PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Mal

67. I've read the comments on this page and all I have to say is that some of you people can't see real talent even if it were right in front of you. Madonna has set standards in the entertainment industry. I am amazed of what she has accomplished over the years and I will continue so support her as long as she is recording great music.

Posted at 8:32PM on Jun 17th 2006 by RM

68. Heck, I am the same age as Madonna and in the 80's really had fun with her music. Now, after all these years.... I see Madonna as a complete egomaniac. I remember seeing her on Oprah a couple of years ago and I could not believe how arrogant she was. I'll just listen to my old CD's, and enjoy them. Madge can just keep chasing her tail. Oh and one other comment, her last music video was so friggin annoying..... I'll just remember the Madonna from the 80's. I swear she is so arrongant that when she is 80, she'll be twirlin her skinny butt on a pole and making global, political and retarded declarations that no one cares about. It is like she actually thinks she is the mouthpiece of the world.

Posted at 8:34PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Tammera

69. I think she is great but I am having a little trouble understanding how you arrive on stage in a 2 million dollar crystal disco ball and God only knows how much the cross cost while showing the poor and orphaned children of Africa who's parents have died from aids. It just seems a tad vulgar to me. Couldn't she have sent the money for the ball to those charities instead? Just wondering out loud.

Posted at 8:44PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Karen

70. Why in the world would a 12 year old say they want to be like a 48 year old? TMZ, your argument does not make any since to me.

Posted at 8:44PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Sasha

71. I actually love harry potter and encourage my children to read it and dream, I also grew up in the 80's and loving madonna, however she has over stepped and i have to agree with the churches . that was sacreligious and just awful, i liked her in the 80's lost respect for her later, thought she had cleaned up and now i am simply done

Posted at 8:45PM on Jun 17th 2006 by kellie

72. Madonna is definitely on the way down. Her recent videos and tour look like a train wreck of desperate moves and gimmicks of a middle aged woman who desperately is trying to still "shake it" and show the world she still matters when everyone with common sense knows that she should be sitting at home with her kids!

She may sell out venues and she may still hit number 1 in Europe (but who doesn't?) but everyone knows that the majority of the record buying public does not give a damn about her. Keep in mind her record only goes number one the
first week of its release, when it's all of her fans (who now consist mostly of gay men and women born in the 80's) snatch it up and then it quickly bows out of the top 10.

Even worse, she shamelessly copies her younger competition (see Kylie Minogue, Danii Minogue, etc), who, ironically, has been doing things better and much classier than Madonna, ranging from sound and look right down to videos (just look at Kylie's vidoes for "In Your Eyes and "I Believe In You" and compare them to "Sorry" and see the similarities: Kylie did it first and arguably better!) This is pretty sad considering the fact that stars like Kylie came after Madonna and probably owe a thing or two to her.

Moreover, the woman look old, beat up, and used up. Madonna trying to be sexy dressed in a lilac leotard and waving her veiny hands in front of the viewers' faces on their tvs looks more like your mom at the local gym during an exercise routine than a woman who is trying to dance and be attractive. Sexiness and grace do not come from having a nice and trim body, but come from within. Just because Madonna's butt is firm it does not mean she knows how to shake it or looks good doing it!

Her desperate attempts at trying to be spiritual and understand God and human existance are as futile as her pathetic song lyrics which mean nothing coming from a woman who sings on a cross and then grabs her crotch.

Posted at 8:48PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Jamez

73. All of you haters, are just that....Haters. Jealous, bitter, sad, lonely NOBODY's! You only wish that you could have the success that Madonna has, and keep it for over 20 years. People have been dissing Madonna since she first came out, and she only spits in their faces, and keeps laughing all the way to the bank. Madonna has more talent than any female artist who has come since she first arrived, and when they are all forgotten, Madonna will still be tops.

Stick that in your pipes, and smoke it!

Posted at 9:31PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Haters are idiots!

74. Madonna baffles everyone. She gets her groove on by shocking and aweing. Then throws up her hadns wondering why people get so disgusted. It's pr and it works well - her music is a hook but really how many people are still istening to "Like a Virgin" like - who cares?

Posted at 9:33PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Moved by authenticity

75. i love madonna. i have followed her whole career. i have enjoyed everything she has done. she is still highly relevant. she is the queen!

Posted at 9:56PM on Jun 17th 2006 by william brogan

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