Madonna: Hot or Has-Been?

MadonnaThe Hater-
It happens to every artist. It happened to The Stones, The Ramones, Whitney Houston and now, it has happened to Madonna. It's sad but true... Madonna has lost her relevance as a pop artist.

Oh she'll still sell out large sports arenas and her album will still chart when it hits the streets., but you're not gonna hear the average 12 year-old  say they wanna be like Madonna, like they did in droves in the '80s. They're more likely to emulate Xtina, Kelly Clarkson, or (god forbid) Fergie.

Now our beloved Madonna didn't just fall off the relevant radar over night. It was a long, painful process that took years to complete.  


Lets break it down:

She became religious
It didn't work for Bob Dylan, why would it work for you.

She chose the Kaballah
Say what you want about this ancient Jewish mysticism, but to the average American it's nothing more then a Hollywood fad. With its red string bracelet and cancer-curing water, it's hard for folks to support a theology propped up by a woman who coos us to "Justify Her Love."

She moved to the UK
She married Brit director Guy Richie, you know, the guy who did the "Snatch" movie. Within what seemed like hours, she was conducting interviews with a British accent. We're all just happy she didn't move to France, then she would be unintelligible.

She released "American Life"
Or as it's otherwise known, the album that jumped the shark. She appeared on the cover as Ché and suddenly she was a revolutionary who rapped- yes, rapped- about lattés and pilates. The accompanying video was reedited to remove Madonna throwing a hand grenade at George Bush. Who did the re-editing? MTV? The record label? No. Madonna did. It was filled with images of war and she didn't want to offend anyone. The whole situation may have been a bit more controversial if the video and song weren't completely unwatchable and unlistenable.

She got on the light up cross
Years ago. Madonna had this song "Like A Prayer." It pissed off everyone. The video had burning crosses, a black Jesus making out with Madonna and unnecessary bowing at the end. The Church hated it, your parents hated it, teachers told you how horrible Madonna was to disrespect religion and we, well, we loved it. It was a great song with a compelling video. (Hell, I'm humming it right now.) Now Madonna brings out a huge light up cross on her tour. Sure, a few church groups got upset. but these are the people who think Harry Potter is leading us to hell, one book at a time. But, for the most part, no one cared. A collective yawn filled the land and we moved on. Been there, done that.

Madonna will still sell huge amounts of records and sell out venues, but please keep in mind so does Celine Dion and Barbara Streisand. Her relevancy is on the wane. Relax Madonna, you deserve a rest- you've earned it. Let us remember the good times and not the image of a woman struggling to to stay in the limelight at any cost.


madonnaThe Celebrater-
Here we go again.  Every time Madonna has a new album or tour, inevitably the question of 'is she still relevant' is raised.  The fact that we are still having this conversation is proof alone that we still care.

Madonna's first album came out in 1983, making her career almost as old as Britney Spears, and she's still topping the charts. Her latest album "Confessions on a Dance Floor" debuted at #1 and her tour is destined to be the top-selling tour of the year. 12-year-olds may be a large chunk of the record buying public, but they're about as fickle with their musical tastes as Paris Hilton is with boyfriends.  While singers like Kelly Clarkson and Fergie may have the kids' attention now, see where those ladies are in 23 years - then we'll talk.

Kaballah isn't a fad, it's been around for thousands of years.  Madonna didn't join Kaballah because it was trendy; Madonna joined Kaballah - that's why it's trendy.  From wearing rosaries to vogueing to Kaballah, what Madonna does - people follow.  Maybe 12-year-olds aren't signing up, but their mothers are.

Madonna's British accent may not be your cup of tea, but it makes much more sense than Xtina's, Timberlake's or Fergie's. Nothing says fraud like a blonde hair, blue-eyed suburbanite touting the latest gangsta slang like it's their own. Talk about sounding unintelligible, yo!

Madge's rapping was not the highlight of her career, but "American Life" still debuted at #1.  Further proving she still had her finger on the pulse, Madonna filmed the Bush-bashing video in February of 2003, a month before the Dixie Chicks lashed out and several years before polls made it ok for even the reddest of conservatives to do so. Madonna may have edited her video before anyone could ban it, but let's not forget we were on the eve of war.  People proclaimed Madonna had softened, in actuality the mother of two was just showing the world she had grown up.

If Madonna isn't causing uproars like she was twenty years ago then you can blame...Madonna.  From sex to religious controversies to gay visibility, the Material Girl pushed issues and topics that at one-time were considered taboo but today don't even raise an eyebrow.  Thank God Madonna has been there and done that, it's because of people like her that today we have a more tolerant society. So the next time you find yourself bored by Lady M's latest endeavor, no need to yawn - a thank you will suffice.

At 47, Madonna's body is in the best shape of her life. While other pop stars from the 80s have faded or remained in the press solely for their legal woes (Can you say Jacko, Boy George, George Michael or Whitney?), Madonna is still kickin' ass.  Maybe if people stopped wanting her to be something she used to be, they'd realize just how much fun they could be having dancing to her latest hit.

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76. Ho Hum already. you only WISH she were still relevant, then you wouldn't need to be embarassed that you STILL admire someone who unabashedly uses whatever, whenever and whoever to make another dollar.Admire Away!

Posted at 10:07PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Di

77. LOL! It never amazes me how many essays are written about Madonna's "downfall." That has happened every year since 1983. Yet, she still sells out venues in minutes and her album is a worldwide success. About the cross: have any of you actually attended the show? The whole segment is used to illustrate how children are suffering in Africa because of the Aids crisis. Perhaps you should see something before judging it.

Posted at 10:11PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Dan Thomas

78. Ho HUM already. You only WISH she were still relevent, then you wouldn't feel guilty for admiring a person who will use anybody anywhere anytime to make another dollar. The only difference is now when she is thrown in my face I know she probably has to pay for the publicity herself...Admire Away

Posted at 10:25PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Diane Marier

79. Who's Madonna? Do you mean the Virgin Mary, or of Guadelupe? Those are the only ones I've ever heard of.

Posted at 10:32PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Jack Kennedy

80. "It's sad that someone would -waa :( waa :( sniffle, sniffle,- muse the thought -waa waa- that Madonna wrote those supportive comments herself..." GET REAL! GET A GRIP! GET A LIFE! Caught on the bait! My comment was purely satirical and aimed not at Madonna, but at you, losers, who waste your lives bickering in vain about somebody who doesn't give a shit about your mother freaking lives. I knew someone would have a stupid retort to my comment! It would behoove you all to invest your TIME in making YOUR OWN dreams happen, rather than argue like fools! Had Madonna wasted all her time doing this, would she have accomplished what she has? I happen to have stumbled on this discussion, and decided to have some fun at your expense...but this will be my last comment. I will be unaware of your replies, as I have many dreams to tend to. Ciao! A jamais!

Posted at 10:34PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Moomsie

81. Madonna is an ugly, no-talent, whore. The fact that her concerts remain half empty shows what a has-been she is. The real pop music talent is Mariah Carey. If you have a chance to see her this summer, I recommend that you do it. Mariah gives a performance that is worth seeing. Please read my daily column at
www.foxnews.com/foxlife

Roger Friedman,
Fox News
Entertainment Reporter

Posted at 10:43PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Roger Friedman

82. This is a really fascinating article to say the least- wow! If the music industry believes and is relying on the "12 year old market" as the ONLY thing left to sustain their profit margins and keep them in business then god help you all!!!! There are other ages groups that listen and purchase music too. Not everyone finds Fergie, X-tina and Britney or the like "relevant". There are heaps of artists out there there don't get the level of exposure as the above three and release far more exciting music.

Sure enough Madonna for instance won't sell as many records or hit the top 10 like she use to but frankly that alone is a pretty "short" measure of success. Longevity and consistency is a far accurate measure of success. Look at the likes of Tina Turner, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, U2. All have had long successful careers. How often do articles like this or the artists themselves complain that they have jumped the shark just because the 12 year old market hasn't purchased their latest cd, nor their singles haven't been in the top 40 or the top 10 for that matter?





Posted at 11:00PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Brian

83. Madonna = over rated = over. She is grasping to her 80's icon status. Its done. Let it die gracefully. Please?

Posted at 11:03PM on Jun 17th 2006 by bonnie

84. I agree with "Hater." Madonna's relevance is so over. How sad that she might end up just like Cher. By the way, is it me or is Madonna turning into even more of a self-absorbed bitch in her old age?

Posted at 11:07PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Dana

85. People have been writing Madonna off since 1985 & guess what?! She is is still here. She knows that she will never be on top like she once was & has even said so herself in her music. Why would she care what a 12 year old thought of her anyway? People critisoze American Life but flop or not it took her 20 years to have a flop. Not many of the Diva can claim that feat. She is consistent & will never be a has been until she herself decides to throw in the towel.

Posted at 11:15PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Jai

86. When she becomes a "has been", I don't think she will be selling out any arenas. It's not like she will be reading this so why bother saying stupid stuff about her? If no body cared, no one would be buying tickets & if it wasn't for her, these 12 year old wouldnt have these females to look up to.

Posted at 11:22PM on Jun 17th 2006 by J.J.

87. Has Been! That haircut looks ridiculous. We all need to accept that that time passes, even Hagdonna...

Posted at 11:43PM on Jun 17th 2006 by Maurya

88. For those of you who comment and ridicule M for bringing in a cross or belief into her performances: She is a performance artist. Her purpose is to not only entertain you but to cause you think. If she has triggered some form of emotion in you to move you to sway one way or the other - than she has done her job as a peformer. Especially to still be in the limelight after all these years and still cause media and people to create opinions about her and her agenda is still amazing! Think about it - if she really was a "has been" - than why are those who "dislike her or are tired of her" still commenting about her? If she was trully a "has been" those who didnt care would not bother. Secondly, on the matter of religion: Our President of the US is bringing in HIS religion into our Constitution and Civil Rights. He has and is using his religious beliefs to control our government (i.e. gay rights). So for those who feel she as a performer is at fault by expressing her beliefs as an artist - than I think you should reconsider your opinion since you are not being forced to follow her lifestyle. But I strongly suggest that you WRITE to the President of the US and the government officials who, unlike Madonna, are FORCING US to follow their often Narrow-minded and Conservative laws and judgements and to leave Religion out of our government. Here's a thought - I'm buddhist and I should be free to practice whatever religion I choose. But for those who argue this "thought": If I am buddhist - than why is this government utilizing the "BIBLE" as a guide to lead this country and my rights? I do not believe in the Bible. - So the truth here is: I can't freely practice my religion without the government and others trying to implement their Catholic religion into MY life.

Posted at 12:13AM on Jun 18th 2006 by A fan

89. Amazing I had know idea that twelve years were a "Marketing Demographic." Check the dictionary for ICON. I supposed when you make a meger pence to write a freelance TMZ article you my dear writer have no idea what contract means.

Madonna is an icon for female pop stars thanks to her proven ability to reinvent herself while retaining complete control of her career, Madonna is also one of the most commercially successful artists in the history of popular music. Without doubt an artist with "star quality", no other female singer in the pop arena has been as prominent or as successful over such a long period.

I am sure she is laughing the whole way to the bank.

Posted at 12:42AM on Jun 18th 2006 by Blondeheiress

90. Amazing I had know idea that twelve year olds were a "Target Marketing
Demographic." Check the dictionary for ICON. I suppose,
making a meager pence to write a freelance article does not afford an, Ivy League Educated Scholar and one would have no idea what the word CONTRACT means.

Madonna is an icon female pop star. Her proven ability to reinvent herself
While retaining complete control of her career, sells concerts out throughout the world. Madonna is also one of the most commercially successful artists in the history of popular
Music. Without a doubt an artist with "star quality", and no other female
singer in the pop arena has been as prominent or as successful over such a long period.

Posted at 1:04AM on Jun 18th 2006 by Blondeheiress

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