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"Spider-Man" Baddies Spill on Sequel

Posted Jul 24th 2006 11:30AM by TMZ Staff

Though "Spider-Man 3" doesn't open until next summer, 5,000 lucky fans got an early look at the new film at Comic-Con, the country's largest comic book convention. The stars of the sure-to-be hit were also on hand and tried to remain tight-lipped about the movie.

A slimmed down Tobey Maguire, who plays the titular hero, was very vague and made the new film sound a lot like "Spider-Man 2." "You know, Peter's dealing with elements of himself and things that have been imposed on him that put him kind of in conflict with himself," says Maguire, "He's got some battling to do."

The new villains offered up a little more. Topher Grace, who plays Venom, says his character embraces his badness. "Well, he just really, really enjoys being evil, which is rare. Usually some of these characters could be tortured. But, I have to say, I think he believes with great power comes great fun."

While Venom is pure evil, it's Thomas Haden Church's "Sandman" who may be more on the fence. "I mean, he's a real guy in the movie, who goes through some changes- hormonal and otherwise...He's just a very disaffected loner who has a mission in the movie, and comes to loggerheads with Spider-Man and a few others and is just trying to work things out."

"Spider-Man 3" opens May 4th 2007.

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1. I can't wait to see this movie!

Posted at 12:05PM on Jul 24th 2006 by Jacky

2. I think the Sequel will be awesome. My kids will sove it.

Posted at 12:27PM on Jul 24th 2006 by GJ

3. Can't wait for Spiderman 3..2007 come quick damnit..

Posted at 12:30PM on Jul 24th 2006 by _aLL3y3zPonM3_

4. **SPOILER***

You know, I'm not a Spiderman fan- I really like the movies, but I wouldn't fit as a fan. It just so happened that years back when I was bored, they had some of the spiderman episodes of the newer "Spiderman" cartoon on- this was back in the late 90's, like 1999 or something. So I was quite interested when "Venom" turned up- it seemed like a new and rather fitting nemesis for Spiderman. When you've used up all these other crazy ideas- well, this seemed a bit more sincere and interesting.

So for me, at least, the upcoming movie will probably have its changes and surprises, but I have an idea of the potential plot. Wanna hear it? I put spoiler above to warn anyone- and again, if you do NOT want to know something of the idea of what is coming then do NOT read.

I don't remember all the details precisely anyway. I do know that at least in the comic/cartoon version Spirderman's love was potentially being connected to an astronought- whom we've seen glimpses of in the previous movies. They go into space and during their mission collect an alien substance. This substance may or may not cause the crash (I'm not sure), but the space shtutle crashes and everyone dies. The black alien substance, however, leak out. During spiderman's daring hero efforts around the crash, he gets the substance on him- I believe he thinks it is just a stain to get off or something. He leaves it on his spiderman outfit- and he dreams while he sleeps that he is facing some dark thing, some part of himself. He tries to fight/escape it in his dream- going from place to place. Then he suddenly wakes up. When he wakes up, he is on top of a building- a pure black spiderman. His suit was enveloped in the black substance, and now he does not even NEED to put on his suit- the alien entity, which can stay on him, works as his own suit.

It gives him special, new incredible abilities- all his old abilities are enhanced (I believe), it definitely gives him super strength, and it enhances his reflexes. The only bad side... is that it also enhances his dark nature, his agression, etc. That whole "These guys are evil, I hate having to obey the law and just let them go" mentality- well, it brings that out, and instead of just letting the bad guys face the law, he begins to find himself starting to take justice into his whole hands. The whole "beat the bag guy into a squishy pulp" sort of thing.

Eventually, he wins the battle against the dark in himself and rejects the symbiote- and that same substance takes up residence in one of his normally mundane enemies (ie- just a normal person, not a supervillain or anything... some criminal or I forget what). Well, he accepts it freely- and finds he now has all of spiderman's abilities, and THEN some. He becomes... Venom. The perfect anti-spiderman... and he loves it. He just loves being evil, and he has no inhibitions about it. He also totally sullies spiderman's name- everyone thinks that spiderman has turned evil now.

So, while they might vary it in all kinds of ways, I think they'll probably have that general jist about the plot. Hope that makes some of you who are interested, want to know more, but don't already know this much- a little happier.

-Pat

Posted at 9:48AM on Jul 27th 2006 by Pat

5. I'm sorry, I can't see Topher Grace be any kind of villian in any superhero movie. Just like I'm still gritting my teeth at Toby Macguire being Spiderman for all three movies. Spiderman was not a "sleepy-wimp". Who's casting all these supehero movie's anyway? Interns?
Just like Colin Farrell as "Bullseye" in that lame Ben Affleck superhero venture!?! I try to forget the name of it on purpose! It's working....

Posted at 12:14PM on Jul 27th 2006 by Paulo

6. This Commeent is for -PAT- who posted his own comment back on July 27th, Like you said your not a spiderman fan. If your were you would know that, the cartoon version that used to air on FOX on Saturday morings is depicted largely from the Comicbook series. So therefor, if you were a fan you would know that, the movies themselve are depicted from the comicbooks.

About the occurrence to how spidy got the venom symbiote is as follows from the Cartoon stand point:
J.J.'s son, Robert Jamerson (Mary Jane Watson's Boyfriend: Spiderman2) an astronaut, goes in to space, what planet he and the other two astronaunts lands on? I don't know it may have been an astroid they landed on. Anyway, he and the other men started collecting rocks from the surface and as soon as the finished got back on their ship and headed back to Earth.

On the return trip back to planet Earth something started going wrong, the canisters thats were holding the rocks started raddeling and some type of slim engulfed them. As the ship approached the Earths atmosphere there was no communication to the space shuttle. The ship came in for a crash landing in the Hudson river NY. Thats when spidy jumped in to save the astronauts before the ship submerged in the hudson, he found all three unconscience. He put all there on the ships life raft and as he tries to get out of the ship he get caught on something and he gets pulled under. The harber police came pulled the unconscience astronaunts out of the water and spidy on the other hand manages to get out of the ship just in time and swims to shore, there he noticed the he is covered in a black goop, which he thought was from the Hudson river.

Spidy gets home takes off his spidy suit and gets in to bed. As he is sleeping, Peter Parker is dreaming of being chased and fighting with an unknown foe, as he dreams the foe in black blankets him in darkness and he wakes up hanking on a side of a building upside down on his web, where he noticed that he is in an all new custome all black but his reflection is of the regular custome. This new suit is not a suit at all but a ENTITY. This entity has a mind of it's on, it can preject the apparance of clothes. Thus Peter Parker has no need for his Classic spider man outfit. The Symbiote can become that, but in black.

Parker is very happy with his new abilities at first until he starts becoming uncaring, disinterested in whats right and wrong, and ultimately giving in to the dark side of himself. He cheats on M.J. with Gwen stacy. The city starts to dislike him. Spidy is to much of a good guy for the Symbiote, he manages to get a hold of him self by recalling his uncles famous words "with great power, come great responsibility" and manage to get get a crip on reality. but how to get the suit off of him. Parker does not want the suit but the suit desires a host. In comes ...

Ladies and gents the one and only Eddie Brock...aka Venom. who is Eddie Brock? Eddie is a former reporter of the Daily Bugle, he was discredited when spidy proved one of his stories wrong (Comic Version) and was fired and than turned to a life of crime (Animated Series Version FOX), which ever turn the movie takes it will be good. Brock was obsessed over being fired he starts to following the web slinger and collecting news paper articles of the hero...move along some time and spidy gets the Venom suit off of him self and Eddie brocks encounters the symbiote and merges with it and become THE VENOM, the bad thing is that the symbiote keeps the memories of the host and those Eddie Brock know who spider-Man really is and terrorizes him, and thus the real fun of being a villian begins for Eddie.
From the Cartoon version of spidy, to get the symbiote off a person you need some sort of ringing noise, I.e church bell or sonic ringing. The Movie will also feature the lizard aka Dr. Connors.

Posted at 1:45PM on Aug 1st 2006 by knight