16. I THINK THEY BOTH NEED TO THINK ABOUT IRELAND, FIRST AND FOREMOST! I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE, TRUST ME, HAVING BEEN THROUGH A HORRIBLE CUSTODY SUIT MYSELF! IT HAPPENED MANY YEARS AGO, AND IN THE END, IT HURT MY LOVELY DAUGHTER, MORE THAN THE OTHER TWO OR THREE PARTIES INVOLVED! END IT NOW! OR IRELAND WILL BE SCARED FOREVER! WHERE THE HECK IS THE MEDIATOR HERE? BOY ALEC AND KIM MUST HAVE REALLY LOVED ONE ANOTHER TO CARRY ON THIS RIDICULOUS FIGHT FOR SO LONG. AS THE EXPRESSION GOES YOU HAVE TO LOVE SOMEONE A GREAT DEAL TO HATE OUT ON THEM TO THE EXTREME THESE TWO DO!

Posted at 9:13PM on Oct 4th 2006 by PARIS

17. The liberal nuts are alive and well even on this site. Notice how the freakazoids jump to Alex Baldwins side, simply because he fights for their wacko conspiracy theories. This is the modern Democrat Party. I for one can't claim to know who is right and wrong in this case, because DUH!!!, its been a PRIVATE matter that neither side will portray themselves as being at fault. But that wont stop the liberals among us from TELLING us what they DONT KNOW HAPPENED, and EXACTLY whose to blame. People who listen to these idiots are of the subhuman unthinking human type called Moronsamungus.

Posted at 9:18PM on Oct 4th 2006 by Jim

18.
Kim Basinger is to blame. She is unstable, do you know that she once bought a town? I feel sorry for Alec, he seems to be the only normal one.

Posted at 9:26PM on Oct 4th 2006 by Samantha

19. If sole custody wasn't available to these two, maybe they wouldn't be fighting for sole custody.

Neither Kim nor Alec are "perfect" parents, and it would undoubtedly be in Ireland's "best interest" for the state to just take her (or any child...) away from the parents and adopt her into the care of a "perfect" pair of PhD psychologists with expertise in childhood development. Since that doesn't really happen, and it won't happen here, the "best interests" of this child are unattainable and the state's premise that it derives its authority to award sole custody from its interest in securing the "best interests of the child" is fiction. If California had a presumption of equal joint custody, Kim and Alec would be forced to accept the other's important role in THEIR child's life. BOTH would be obligated to maintain clean, sober, abuse-free lives due to their knowledge that the other is just waiting SILENTLY for proof of misconduct that they can submit for prosecution, because a conviction of either for any child-threatening offence would disqualify the convicted parent from sharing custody. Equal joint custody removes the promise of victory AND the threat of defeat, both of which motivate each parent to fight so hard to "win".

If there's really abuse here, then someone should be in jail for it, not answering criminal claims in a civil court. If there's no abuse here, then the false accuser should be in jail. Call it PAS, or if you don't like that term, just call it perjury.

Kim and Alec are fighting because the court system falsely promises them a sole custody award to the "winner". But, there really are no winners in divorce court, except the lawyers. Which is probably the #1 reason the ABA opposes equal joint custody presumptions in divorce law. They know that if we give people less to fight for, they'll fight less.

Posted at 9:30PM on Oct 4th 2006 by Steve

20. First of all, I understand alec Baldwin has a temper and he comes form a troubled family. (Heck he's from Long Island isn't he). but I think Kim Basinger is awful for not allowing a father to see and spend time with his daughter. Maybe alec is psycho. I think he is. But something's got to be done about this divorce battle. I mean you can't keep a child away from it's father or mother. and at the same time you need to fight for your rights as a parent. AND you need to somehow settle the dispute and not go crazy over one's child/children like this. I am sure, with all the money alec and kIm make, Ireland is coping. All Alec wants is for his child to be in his life without any restrictions. But at the same time both Kim and Alec must not use anger as a force to solve their problems. It is setting a horrible example for ireland and that girl may grow up with mistrust, relationship and anger issues as a result of all this.

Hmmmm.... I WONDER IF BRAD PITT & ANGELINA JOLIE WILL END UP LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE?

Posted at 9:43PM on Oct 4th 2006 by Kendra

21. Come on people....would you listen to yourselves. You make Alec out to be the bad guy here?

Bottom line yes they need to get over it, but the law is the law and if she broke it then she needs to pay the price (no matter how he is perceived by most of you). And realistically we dont know what effect this will have on their daughter. I can only imagine by the severity of some of the posts that most of you have been through this and know first hand the emotional impact and need for therapy that arises from this type of dispute.

Posted at 9:45PM on Oct 4th 2006 by Lawyer

22. by the way, yes you can keep a child away from their parent if there safety is in danger and the court deems it. I know many cases. Kim is bound by agreements to not slander her husband and even if things are true, they must be proven, something to think about. Listen to Loveline on KROQ...106.7 LA

Posted at 10:11PM on Oct 4th 2006 by stef

23. It obvious she was a victim of Domestic Violece. And I see we have some abusers writing in to TMZ. WOW! Way to call a woman a bitch who is in fear for herself and her daughter from someone who obviously does not know how to control his rages.

The abusers always like to accuse an obviously petrified woman of such coward and ridiculous things.

hope he gets arrested for harassing her. Keep paperwork KIM!

Posted at 10:11PM on Oct 4th 2006 by stef

24. Hey, Alec Baldwin is a left wing weirdo. It is a good deal that Kim tries to keep her daughter away from the wannabe liberal politco creep.

Posted at 10:17PM on Oct 4th 2006 by bill

25. Kim is utterly gorgeous, and Alec is a fat over the hill wanna be,,just making the most important ppl in his life miserable by all these court apperances,,,,his poor daughter,,,,when shes older he will have lost,,and Kim well shes still hanging on to her good looks,, and when hes done stressing her out maybe she will have some her time,,so as she can rest, she needs some good old Kimmy time and she will feel 100 percent better,,,kick that fat ass to the curb, and find yourself a young little tightie to fill your days,,,,the gardener anyone other then a Baldwin,,,That whole family is f***ed..

Posted at 10:55PM on Oct 4th 2006 by lisa

26. THEY SHOULD TAKE THE POOR KID AWAY FROM BOTH OF THOSE PSYCHOS, OR ELSE SHE'LL WIND UP A RAVING LUNATIC. SHE MIGHT EVEN JOIN SCIENTOLOGY!!! MY GOD! WHAT A HORRIPILATING THOUGHT!!!!!!

Posted at 11:25PM on Oct 4th 2006 by The Maven

27. mr & mrs Baldwin (F.A.G.) (Ghu, I love 'Team America'!) were never sufficiently beaten as children - who wants to help them catch-up now?

Posted at 11:37PM on Oct 4th 2006 by solly

28. I am now the most normal Baldwin.
Be afraid - be very afraid!

Posted at 11:52PM on Oct 4th 2006 by Stephen Baldwin

29. Who cares?

Posted at 11:52PM on Oct 4th 2006 by Matt

30. Having experienced this first hand in my daughter's divorce and custody
hearings I can tell you that this is not good for the children. Usually it
has to do with "control" issues with the fathers. Experts and cops have
told us the behaviors are consistant. If you saw Dr. Phil show today it
was on custody issues. If only they can just see clear to put the children's
needs and wishes first.

Posted at 12:13AM on Oct 5th 2006 by cindy