Mariah Packs Guns, Not Heat

16. I posted "Shoog"-should have been "Snoop"-but in the long run they are all about the same, aren't they?

Posted at 10:40AM on Oct 27th 2006 by Gina

17. Mariah demanded that sh*t. To her surprise the people in Hong Kong said f*ck you!

Posted at 10:53AM on Oct 27th 2006 by Alix

18. Post 11, jride, hilarious!!! I am the last person to pick on someone for being overweight, as I don't think I am perfect. But, in all fairness, she can be any size she wants but to still try and wear the same clothes she did 15 or so years ago is just tasteless. She isn't 21 anymore either. Dress your age. She would get a lot more respect. MJF, I have always loved you. You are one of the few people in Hollywood that I have respect for and was so sad when I found out he had Parkinson's. Rush should leave him alone. He is a good guy and with Rush's past he has no right to speak like that.

Posted at 10:55AM on Oct 27th 2006 by Pam

19. IVANKA SUCK MA WANK, thats what shes good for NOTHING ELSE.
whud up.

Posted at 11:11AM on Oct 27th 2006 by WHUD UP

20. Rush Limbaugh is a disgrace and should have lost his radio and TV show long ago. Everyone knows that Parkinsons causes tremors and I have seen Michael J Fox exhibiting these tremors on many occasions. Rush coming out and criticizing this has had the opposite effect though; making these commercials to be shown on national newscasts instead of just the state venues they were taped for.

Unfortunately, the stem cell bill also contains a directive allowing cloning - or so it was reported. While I support stem cell research, I do not support clonging so this particular bill should be defeated and a new bill that only includes stem cell research drafted.

Posted at 11:12AM on Oct 27th 2006 by RiverRat

21. You all are so misinformed about Rush. He never said that Fox was acting. It was never anything personal against Fox. Rush spoke about the issues around the amendment and questioned Fox's appearance as Fox has admitted to not taking his meds when he spoke before Congress so that his symptoms would be exaggerated. Now Fox says that he was overmedicated. Undermedicated, overmedicated.............it makes you wonder what his true motives are. And remember that commercial was not a PSA --- it was a political commercial. A celeb has entered the political arena and Rush has the right to counter anything Fox does. Funny Fox is acting like the victim lying about what Rush said. Rush NEVER made it personal about Fox - Rush attacked the liberals and agrued about using Fox in the commercial. None of you listened to Rush's shows in their entirety. For the record: Rush never said Fox was acting or faking. The liberal media made that up and everyone jumped on it.

Here's a transcript from Rush's show - Make your own Jugements:
RUSH: One of the big issues in the Missouri Senate race -- as you know, we touched on it yesterday -- is the Michael J. Fox commercial which is entirely misleading and which is in itself an attack ad, and it is filled with disinformation about embryonic stem cell research and how Jim Talent wants to criminalize it. Embryonic stem cell research -- and, by the way, Fox is doing similar commercials in Maryland now for Ben Cardin against Michael Steele. But embryonic stem cell research is currently legal and completely unrestricted in both Maryland and Missouri and in the vast majority of other states. It's largely personal and institutional ethics that keep scientists from cloning research.

The debate we're having is almost always about governmental funding or radical measures like the one currently on the ballot in Missouri, which is Amendment 2, which would write a right to cloning into the state constitution of Missouri, and it's one of these cleverly worded things that makes you: if you vote yes, you're voting no, and vice-versa. So we'll talk more about the Michael Fox situation because, as I knew yesterday, the Drive-By Media, including things like Inside Edition, are all panting (panting) to make something out of this that isn't. We will address that, but Michael J. Fox entered the political arena long ago. He became a US citizen in 2000.

He's from Canada. He was active in the Kerry campaign in 2004 and he's entered the political arena again with this series of commercials for Ben Cardin in Maryland and Claire McCaskill in Missouri. One of the tactics the Democrats have -- and they've used this consistently. They bring forth people who they think are victims for the purposes of exploiting them, and when you bring forth -- for example, if you're talking about embryonic stem cell research, and you want to convey the notion that the Republicans are opposed to it, and in effect they're for people having Parkinson's Disease. Make no mistake that's what the intent is.

Then you bring forth a person who's suffering the disease, and you illustrate the disease and the ravages and the suffering on TV to create sympathy and infallibility, because you're not supposed to be able to attack somebody or criticize somebody in any way or in any regard if they suffer from the disease. It's considered cold-hearted and cruel. What's happening here is that Michael Fox has entered the political arena with his attack, which includes false information about Senator Talent and Michael Steele in Maryland. That's fair game, and I am not going to follow the script that says we're not allowed to comment on the things said by participants, "victims," what have you, that the Democrats put forth as infallible in the middle of a political campaign.

I would argue that Mr. Fox is damaging what has traditionally been a bipartisan effort at addressing and curing illnesses, and that is the primary point here. Democrats are politicizing diseases and illnesses. The Breck Girl, John Edwards, promising, if John Kerry is elected, that Christopher Reeve and others with spinal paralysis would walk, when there's no such is evidence that any research into embryonic stem cells will create any immediate cure toward anything. It is irresponsible to mislead victims of people suffering from these horrible diseases in such a fashion. But that's exactly what has happened.


That's what the Democrats are doing, politicizing diseases and illnesses, damaging what has traditionally been a bipartisan effort at addressing and curing illnesses, and the same time they claim if you don't embrace their political and cultural agenda, then you're for Parkinson's disease, and you are for spinal paralysis. It's no different than the way they do it in the environmental movement. They talk about dirty water and dirty air, and if you oppose the environmentalists, why, you must be for dirty water and dirty air! You don't want clean water and clean air, and this is a script that they have written for years. Senate Democrats used to parade victims of various diseases or social concerns or poverty up before congressional committees and let them testify, and they were infallible. You couldn't criticize them.

It was the same thing with the Jersey Girls after 9/11, and in the period of time when the 9/11 commission was meeting publicly. Victims are infallible. Whatever they say cannot be challenged. I don't follow the script anymore. Now, in terms of Michael J. Fox, I did some research today, and I found his book that was published. It's "Lucky Man," 2002, but he admits in the book that before Senate subcommittee on appropriations I think in 1999, September of 1999, he did not take his medication for the purposes of having the ravages and the horrors of Parkinson's disease illustrated, which was what he has done in the commercials that are running for Claire McCaskill and Jim Talent. So when you insert yourself into the political arena this way, to expect insulation and absolution and to expect yourself not to have what you say criticized in the manner in which you're trying to sway opinion is a little bit I think above the fray. I mean, to think that you're immune from any sort of criticism, it's worked in the past for Democrats, but it doesn't work here.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Let me explain to you, ladies and gentlemen, what's going on in my home state that has made this whole stem cell debate so controversial there, and it is typical of the Democrats in this country and the left who can only succeed by misleading. Here's the history in Missouri. For four years, legislators in Missouri have tried to pass a simple ban on human cloning, something that neighboring states to Missouri have done. It's a one-page piece of legislation, a one-page bill. It has never passed. It says that "somatic cell nuclear transfer," that's cloning, "will be a crime in Missouri. Somatic cell nuclear transfer is the scientific term for cloning, the same method used to clone Dolly the sheep.

"The other side makes hysterical claims that this bill would criminalize embryonic stem cell research and put patients in jail, and both claims are utterly false. Today in Missouri, there is a constitutional amendment called Amendment 2, and it calls itself the 'Stem Cell Research and Cures Initiative.' McCaskill favors it. Senator Talent opposes it. Amendment 2 is misleading in that it appears to put stem cell research in the Constitution and to ban human cloning, but the fine print creates a right to do somatic cell nuclear transfer, cloning, which is the scientific term for cloning, the same method used to clone Dolly the sheep." Now, The Amendment 2 proponents are using Michael J. Fox and trotting out other people with sick relatives to try to convince Missourians that there will be no cures for their diseases without Amendment 2, which is a cloning amendment that has nothing to do with stem cell research.


The truth is, all stem cell research is legal today in Missouri. Jim Talent does not seek to criminalize it, as Michael J. Fox asserts in his television commercial. Stem cell research is legal today in Missouri, it is happening at universities across the state. The truth is Amendment 2 would put human cloning in the Constitution. Now, the Michael J. Fox ad says that Talent wants to criminalize research, and this is false. It is already legal and it's already happening. Senator Talent and other opponents of Amendment 2 are not touching stem cell research in any way. What they want to do is stop human cloning from becoming a new right in the Missouri Constitution, and so they have named the pro-cloning bill the stem cell research and cures initiative so that people will go to the polls on November the 7th and think they're voting for stem cell research, which is already legal.

Michael J. Fox is participating in this disinformation campaign. Folks, I don't care what anybody says, it is unseemly, it is exploitative, and it is downright mean to mislead people who suffer from incurable diseases at the moment or horrible diseases, that there is a cure around the corner if only, if only Republicans could be defeated. There has been a tradition in this country of bipartisan efforts to cure all of these diseases or to come up with vaccinations for them, but never mind that, we're in the process here now of damaging what has traditionally been this bipartisan effort in addressing and curing illnesses by politicizing them. We're now politicizing diseases and illnesses.

The Democrats politicized spinal paralysis and spinal injuries in the 2004 campaign, and now they are politicizing Parkinson's disease, and they've done that, and it's all about stem cell research, and of course embryonic stem cell research. Any bit of information or research that shows progress in either of these areas that does not involve stem cell, embryonic stem cell research, is rejected by the left. Now, why is this? What is so damned important about embryonic stem cell research? Why not adult stem cells? Why not research on umbilical cord blood cells that can be extracted from the blood in the umbilical cord? Because you can't take abortion out of this mix.

Just because it's not being talked about in this campaign, do not be lulled and fooled into thinking that abortion does not remain the sacrament of the Democratic Party and its religion. It is the thing that they will never once compromise on, and they think that anything that stands in the way of embryonic stem cell research is going to be an obstacle to having abortions, and the converse is true. If you can open up the field of embryonic stem cell research and just go out and get an embryo, what do you have to do to get an embryo? I've heard some Democrats say, "Well, an embryo is not fertilized, is it?" How little they know. Of course it's fertilized, and you have to kill it, and of course that advances the notion I told you long ago, folks.

If you leave it up to these liberals, you're going to end up with a culture where they are going to decide who lives and who dies based on the convenience and personal preferences of theirs. We're already eliminating kids in the womb. We're eliminating the elderly because they're an inconvenience, and now we want to eliminate the embryos and fetuses because we might be able to cure disease even though there's no evidence whatsoever for it. So for people to say that it is unfair to criticize things said by people who enter this arena just because they suffer from a certain disease, that may be the Democrats' script for all these years, but it is not a script I'm going to follow anymore.

Again, Michael J. Fox is saying that Jim Talent, a Republican incumbent Senator wants to criminalize research. It is false. Talent and other opponents of Amendment 2 in Missouri are not touching stem cell research in any way. What they want to do is stop human cloning from becoming a new right in the Missouri Constitution. Missourians against human cloning are up against a $30 million spin campaign. It's an unheard of amount of money. It breaks all records for statewide campaigns in the history of Missouri. And their main spin is that the somatic cell nuclear transfer isn't cloning. But the National Academy of Sciences and so forth and other organizations say that it is. It is more deception from the left designed to trap you into voting for something that actually isn't on the ballot at all.


RUSH: All right, people are asking for the cite, that's c-i-t-e. This would be Michael J. Fox, an excerpt from his book "Lucky Man" June 1, 2002. Here is what he writes regarding his appearance before a Senate appropriations subcommittee hearing in Washington on September 28th, 1999: "I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease and the urgency we as a community were feeling be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling," as it was for me when I saw the commercial he was running in Missouri, because I had never seen him that way before, ever, and I got numerous e-mails from people saying he had said that he does this: goes off the medication to illustrate the ravages of the disease to people and so it's in his own book, that he admits doing this.

Now, Kathryn Jean Lopez at National Review Online has a story on their website today: "Doc Hollywood on the Campaign Trail; What Michael J. Fox learned while on Spin City," and in it she quotes Princeton professor Robert P. George, who sits on the president's bioethics commission, and he says this: "I have great sympathy for Mr. Fox and other victims of Parkinson's and similarly horrible diseases. I understand how desperately he hopes for a cure for what afflicts him and so many others. I have seen members of my own family suffer, and I too want to hasten the day when the great engine of science conquers the diseases that cause so much suffering. But the fact that Mr. Fox is a victim is not a license for him to mislead or manipulate the public.

"The truth — the whole truth — must be told. Those politicians who, for political gain, have run these ads in which the truth is distorted and people are misled deserve the most severe of reprimands. Win or lose, they have brought upon themselves disgrace." That, ladies and gentlemen, is my whole point: "that Mr. Fox is a victim is not a license for him to mislead or manipulate the public. The truth -- the whole truth -- must be told. Those politicians who for political gain have run these ads in which the truth is distorted and people are misled deserve the most severe of reprimands. Win or lose, they have brought upon themselves disgrace." That, ladies and gentlemen, is my whole point. "Mr. Fox is a victim is not a license for him to mislead or manipulate the public. The truth -- the whole truth -- must be told. Those politicians who for political gain have run these ads in which the truth is distorted and people are misled deserve the most severe of reprimands. Win or lose, they have brought upon themselves disgrace."

That is happening to Claire McCaskill in Missouri today. Ben Cardin in Maryland are both disgracing themselves by exploiting the suffering of this disease in the effort to politicize it and to make it appear to voters in their states, Missouri and Maryland, that voters for -- well, let's put it this way: Making it appear that their opponents, Jim Talent in Missouri and Michael Steele in Maryland, are for Parkinson's disease because they are opposed to research which would cure it. Nothing could be further from the truth. I can't emphasize this enough. Embryonic stem cell research in Missouri is legal, and it is ongoing, and nobody wants to criminalize it.

Posted at 11:15AM on Oct 27th 2006 by Pieta

22. #15. Just to clarify - Parkinson's is not a terminal illness. It's effects are devastating as you become more and more unable to control your body movements, but people don't die from Parkinsons

Posted at 11:19AM on Oct 27th 2006 by MJ

23. I agree with #19 comments, she is soooo full
of sh*t, u know her daddy had something to do with it

Posted at 11:19AM on Oct 27th 2006 by anyways

24. to MJ: People die from the effects of Parkinsons which has no cure. My husband was diagnosed in 1997 and died in 2003. Eventually the meds can no longer keep up with the progression of the disease. In extreme cases the patients become unable to talk, swallow or breathe. They can become bed ridden from being unable to walk and that can cause a whole score of other problems such as infected bed sores leading to septic shock which will also kill the patient. One can not imagine how devastating this disease is, not only on the patient, but on his family and loved ones. I can assure you that anyone who is touched by any of these horrendous neurological conditions are certainly going to vote in favor of stem cell research to help find a cure. Rush Limbaugh should take his morality and twisted sense of right and wrong and save it for the ignorant ones. Anyone with half a brain knows that stem cell research is imperative to save millions of suffering around the world and all those who will be afflicted in the years to come.

Posted at 11:36AM on Oct 27th 2006 by Sandra

25. Rush's transcript doesn't make it any better really. His opinion is that it doesn't matter how much these people are suffering. He's standing by a religious belief and trying to make it political. His religious beliefs, nor any religous belief, for that matter should be allowed into politics and law. We are supposed to have freedom of religion in this country and that includes the choice to not have it in our lives. I see nothing wrong with Michael wanting to show people an honest look at the severity of his illness. So many people make decisions in the country with their heads in the sand...they need to know all sides even if it isn't pretty.

AND...as far as pointing fingers at Democrats for playing dirty pool when it comes to political ads. PUUUUULEASE. I haven't seen a political ad yet from Democrats OR Replublicans that isn't completely manipulative. Most of them are downright lies. Rush's problem is that he's always wagging his finger at one side while never taking a serious look at his own. But hey...isn't that his M.O.? After all...he was addicted to drugs and putting down drug addicts for quite a while. The man has no real sense of character...so his short sightedness doesn't surprsie me in the least.

Posted at 11:40AM on Oct 27th 2006 by Missy

26. I would be total devastated if my dad didn't give me a deal! But I don't think she needs any help the girl is rich on her own from modeling and her new job as VP of Real Estate Development. Also she's no dummy!

After completing two years at Georgetown University, she transferred to and graduated summa cum laude from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania with a Bachelor of Science in Economics in 2004, and is currently the Vice President of Real Estate Development at the Trump Organization.

Posted at 11:41AM on Oct 27th 2006 by KarenQQ

27. Apt,

MJF is doing CAMPAIGN ads for DEMOCRATS. That makes him political. He not only is doing these ads, he's LYING about the positions of others and what is being voted on in MO. He states that certain people are against STEM CELL research. That's just an out an out lie. The candidates he's targeting are for stem cell research specifically Adult stem, just not the public funding of Embryonic stem cell research that has shown no proof of workign (versus Adult stem cells that have proven to work and has helped actual people).

Fox can say he's apolitical but his actions prove otherwise.

Try boning up on your facts first before posting. It will help you to NOT look like a fool.

Posted at 12:04PM on Oct 27th 2006 by Honest ABe

28. mariah is a smelly pig!!!!

Posted at 12:09PM on Oct 27th 2006 by M.

29. SANDRA.................

Thank you very much for clarifying that to MR> MJ
He obviously didn't do his homework before jumping the gun to tell someone else a thing or two, when it was him that needed to be clarified

I am very sorry to hear about your husband, and sorry that you had to be put through that kind of pain.

Posted at 12:19PM on Oct 27th 2006 by DEBORAH

30. MJF appeared before Congress unmedicated to show them the ACTUAL effects of the disease. When you're not taking medication, you appear AS YOU ACTUALLY ARE. Medication can mask symptoms and medication can exaggerate symptoms. Not taking medication never did either of those things. How can not taking medication cause symptoms to be exaggerated?? That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard!

Also, as MJF clarified, he supports politicians who support stem cell research. He is APOLITICAL people, that means he supports Democrats AND Republicans so long as they support stem cell research. As he told Katie Couric, he even supports Arlen Specter, who has never been a favorite of mine. Uninformed ignoramuses like Rush who are just so full of hate and bile and sheer evil are deeply disturbing to me. What goes into making someone like that??

Posted at 12:19PM on Oct 27th 2006 by rapt