Mother Etheridge

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The section of text between the arrows was taken from research done at, http://www.freeingthespirit.org/Homosexuality&Bible.htm


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Jeanie and Blondie - claim the ghosts of your own self-hatred. You are denial spirits, and all truth that is spoken or written, you will deny.

We're not on the same path and never will be.

Good luck on your journey.

Come on people!!! We all know that babies don't come with owner's manuals, and they have twins!! Give them credit for not hiring a team of nannies to raise their children. They are hands on, R-E-A-L moms.

Oh people get over yourselves. Those kids are very loved, and all they wanted to do is get out for a little while a grab a pizza. Get a life. Best of luck to Melissa & Tammy.

To lovely2- You're right about ONE thing... We're not on the same path. You, unfortunately are on the path to hell and I am trying to warn you. Reguarding your lame comment about "self hatred"... My sins are ALL forgiven because He is my Lord and Savior!!! That Jesus Himself came to earth to teach us about His Father and to heal the sick and raise the dead and then to ultimately suffer and die on the cross in MY place (and whoever will believe) is the greatest miracle that has ever happened! Then He rose from the dead and He will raise us up as well, (His children) to live with Him forever! I am a child of the KING!!! I only wish you could say the same about yourself !

Jeanie, you should take your show on the road. I'd pay good money to see it. Why fork out the big bucks to go see the likes of professional comedians like Eddie Izzard when I can just go throw pennies and rosary beads at you. Bible thumping achieves nothing but a sore wrist. Rather than spending so much time worrying about the life of two strangers and their children, go educate yourself. It would be time well spent.

Just leave them alone.

To SA- I actually DO read the Bible, do you? You sure aren't reading the same one as me! Roman 1, vs 26- 27: "Because of this God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men comitted indecent acts with other men and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion." Go ahead and read vs. 28 : "Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, He gave them over to a depraved mind to do what ought not to be done." Keep on reading if you want, it explains why SOME of you get so nasty at people like me just because we agree with God.

Jeanie I hate to tell you but you've been duped! Those are not God's words that you believe in! (I'm just trying to warn you). God is not a man, God is not a being, God is a power source. IT is the positive power through out the universes and the heaven worlds and as such, IT has no voice. People who have claimed to hear the voice of God are in my opinion, NUTS. So following along those lines, my opinion of your story book bible is that it was written by nuts, not God. I choose not to follow the words of close minded nuts and I choose to argue with people like you because, A) I don't agree with YOUR religion B) It's none of your business what I do in my life and who I have sex with. C) Again, it's none of your business what I do in my life and who I have sex with. D) It's also none of your business how women chose to become pregnant or who they choose as a partner to parent with. Just because you choose to follow a make believe tool of the church, it does not give you the right to pass judgement on fellow human beings. I'm sure neither God nor Jesus decided to send you down here to put your nose in others business so stop using them as your excuse. Oh and get over yourself because if you were perfect and beyond reproach yourself, you wouldn't be here. You'd be in the heaven worlds still enjoying your eternal Eden.
Oh and yes, I have read your version of the bible and I'm sorry, when I could actually understand the gibberish it's written in, I ended up laughing at the lunacy of some of their "laws" and teachings.

Now if you can find any other reason as to why Gays shouldn't have the right to have babies and have sex with each other that doesn't come from a book that open minded people don't believe in, then perhaps I'll listen to you.
Until then you can keep to your judgemental and hateful God and I will keep to my warm loving God, you know the one that judges no one and loves all. I'm happy with my God, stop trying to push yours on me and my life style.

One more thing, stop deluding yourself. You and only you are responsible for your sins! No one took them away. They're still there with you waiting to be acknowledged and taken care of. You're in for a big surprise when your day comes and you're hit with a list of all the things you must do penance for. How shocking it will be for you to realise that your crusade to save the Gays got you no where and that God doesn't love you better because of it. How sad that you've spent most of your life thinking so highly of yourself because you thought you were pleasing God by persecuting a portion of IT's people.
No, I think your time is better spent trying to save your own soul. Stop being so lazy and irresponsible by leaving it up to Jesus to take your sins. They're yours. You deal with them.
Now, how does it feel to be told how you should live your life? You see, what I've said to you is what my religion has taught me. I believe in my religion every bit as much as you believe in yours. I bet you don't like me tossing my teachings at you and telling you your wrong now do you? I bet you're surprised that we Gays even believe in God. Imagine that!
In the end, it doesn't matter. There is no hell and heaven doesn't discriminate. All religions, all classes of soul and every living thing created of God, no matter the life they've lived are allowed in heaven. So, I guess I'll be seeing you there. I just hope for your sake, you're ready to accept us by then. Until that time, I wish you a happy and peaceful life.

I am sick and tired of the religious Christian right who pick and choose parts from the Bible to suit their own ends.
They slam gay people as sinners cuz they need scapecoats to get their own congregations in line, all the while we can read one story after the other about some church leader who has been caught cheating on his wife, molesting kids or embezzling funds. Hypocrites I say!
YOU may think being gay is sinful and you are of course entitled to that belief, but it does NOT give you the right to impose that belief on others who do not share YOUR beliefs or value system.

It also galls me no end to read about straight religious parents who kick their kids out of their homes when the kids disclose that they are gay.
Often these kids are left to fend for themselves, forced to a life on the streets in very dangerous situations, deprived of the safety of a home, parental guidance, food, education and health care. A vast majority of these teens are under age.
Parents who in this manner turn their backs on their children ought to be persecuted under the law for child abandonment.

I think the religious right has lot of sins of their own they can address before going after what they consider to be other peoples sins.

To no# 37 Lola. I think Tammy has every right to be upset. I dont think its anybodys fucking business if the Etheridges put their child in a stroller or not.
If your opinion of somebody is based primarely on what they write, then I would have to say that your post paints a very bleak picture of the kind of person that you are.
And yes, not only is Tammy a poet. She is a darn good one as well!
And to SA: Nicely put. :-)

I am sick and tired of the religious Christian right who pick and choose parts from the Bible to suit their own ends.
They slam gay people as sinners cuz they need scapecoats to get their own congregations in line, all the while we can read one story after the other about some church leader who has been caught cheating on his wife, molesting kids or embezzling funds. Hypocrites I say!
YOU may think being gay is sinful and you are of course entitled to that belief, but it does NOT give you the right to impose that belief on others who do not share YOUR beliefs or value system.

It also galls me no end to read about straight religious parents who kick their kids out of their homes when the kids disclose that they are gay.
Often these kids are left to fend for themselves, forced to a life on the streets in very dangerous situations, deprived of the safety of a home, parental guidance, food, education and health care. A vast majority of these teens are under age.
Parents who in this manner turn their backs on their children ought to be persecuted under the law for child abandonment.

I think the religious right has lot of sins of their own they can address before going after what they consider to be other peoples sins.

To no# 37 Lola. I think Tammy has every right to be upset. I dont think its anybodys fucking business if the Etheridges put their child in a stroller or not.
If your opinion of somebody is based primarely on what they write, then I would have to say that your post paints a very bleak picture of the kind of person that you are.
And yes, not only is Tammy a poet. She is a darn good one as well!
And to SA: Nicely put. :-)

Ups, sorry double post

To SA- Wow ! I really can't understand why you got so mad at me. Did you read the previous posts? I said that I am NOT superior to gays or anyone else and that we are ALL sinners and need forgiveness. All I said was that my sins are forgiven because of what Jesus did on the cross for me and anyone else who will believe in Him! Why does that make you so mad?? You say that everyone will be in heaven, no matter the life they've lived... and that there is no hell... Does that mean that Hitler is in heaven, too?? Are you trying to say that there is no such thing as evil people in this world and that they don't have to pay for their sins? You accuse me of being arrogant, but I'm afraid you better take a long look at yourself in that light. I'm humble enough to admit I need a savior, but you say you don't need one. Who's the arrogant one here, anyway??

You misunderstand my intent Jeanie. I'm simply trying to enlighten you to the fact that other people have beliefs that don't agree with yours. If you read my words as angry ones then again, you misunderstood me. I pointed out my issues with your bible, religion and your belief that you have a right to make a moral decision as to what is right and what is wrong for other people. You did more than just say we are all with sin. You quoted the bible and pointed out the fact that gay is wrong and we are going to go to hell unless we are saved. In doing so, you made the appearance that you are better than gays.
You attempt to pass judgement on people because of what your religion teaches you. You believe that we are morally wrong and you speak out against our lifestyle and mentally banish us to hell. But my religion teaches me that my lifestyle is a personal thing for me to live. It does not pass judgement on me. Yes, to answer your question, I believe even Hitler is in heaven. There are many tiers to heaven. He is where he needs to be to learn from his mistakes and his transgressions towards mankind. He is being made accountable for his sins. Most of his misguided ways were due to the fact that he was insane. Something that can be forgiven and worked with to help him to be a good soul again. This is what a truly forgiving God does for IT's creations. IT has set up everything needed to heal broken souls so that they may someday see the light and return to their true home which is a part of the positive power that holds the universes together. A compassionate person would see this way as being good and just versus the intolerable sufferings of hell that the churches created and preach about. What I don't get is how someone who considers themselves saved can pass the same kind of judgement on me that they would Hitler. I have not killed millions of people. I have simply loved and yet you see a problem with that and would banish me to the same kind of punishment you feel Hitler deserves. What may I ask then do you consider yourself saved from because it certainly isn't from everything negative as you still hold what I consider a sin, prejudice, tightly to your bosom. To me, saved is being free of all things negative. I just don't see that with you.
I did not accuse you of being arrogant. I accused you of being too high on yourself because your religion has deluded you into thinking that you have the right to pass judgement on others. I do not see this as arrogance, I see it rather as ignorance. You have also been deluded into thinking that you'll be OK no matter what you say, who you point fingers at and how you present yourself to people you know nothing about because in the end your sins will be simply wiped away because you let Jesus in. Sounds nice but sadly not a reality. You may be forgiven for your sins but you like everyone else will have to work hard to remove them from your life's record before you're allowed to move onto the heaven that the angels rejoice in.
I'm sorry that you feel that bad about yourself that you feel you need a savior. As for me, I'm responsible for my own actions. If I need saving, then it's up to me and no one else to save me. No, I do not need a savior. There's nothing I need saving from. I live my life to the best of my abilities, I love who I can and allow all the others their space in this world to do with it what they feel is right for them. I do not profess to love everyone because that would be a lie. No one person can love every person in existence. We can love mankind, we can love humanity but we can not love every individual on this earth. Something that I see a lot of religious people say without understanding the words they say. "I love everyone". No you do not. It's just not possible. Yet another illusion set up by the churches to make people think more highly of themselves than they actually are. The church depends on this because you are after all their mouth piece out here in the world. It's these kinds of things that I see in bible based religions that keep me from falling into the churches trap. I am a free soul. The Laws of Spirituality give me that right. I do what I please in my life and am answerable to only me as I'm the one who has to live with my own consequences. I'm OK with that.
If I understand your intent correctly, you strive to live in certain ways, as Jesus did. You strive to save souls from damnation. Well Jesus took on the sins of others in an attempt to save them as the church teaches and you believe. Are you willing to do the same? If I was willing to let you "save" my soul, would you be willing to take on my sins? If you're going to talk the talk of salvation then you must be willing to take on all the aspects attributed to it. Simply pointing a person in the direction of Jesus does not absolve you of your responsibilities of that person you led to that particular path. In some civilizations it is believed tha

Jeanie....SA is kicking your butt......the more you say, the more stupid you are!!! Stop ALREADY!!!!