Jeanie:  1820 days ago

I am well aware that other people have beliefs that don't agree with mine. I wasn't born yesterday and I don't need you to "enlighten" me about that. I quoted the Bible because I believe in what the Bible teaches as the Word of God. You accused me of not reading the Bible and I told you that I DO read the Bible and what I read in the Bible. If you don't like what the Bible teaches, take it up with God... not me. I didn't write it, but I certainly believe in it. I noticed that you didn't even try to interpret for yourself what those passages mean. Instead you try and brush them off and say that mere men wrote them and not God. You can't have it BOTH ways by first saying what you think the Bible teaches and then saying that you don't beleve in the Bible. Well, which is it ?? Do you believe in the Bible or not ?? You're talking out of both sides of your mouth ! !

You believe that God is an IT and I believe that God is a person. It's interesting how safe God can seem to be if He is a mere IT or thing, isn't it ?? A thing doesn't make demands on you or hold you to a standard, does it ?? My Bible teaches that God is a PERSON who loves us and offers us forgiveness IF we repent of our sins (which I have, by the way) and believe in His SON who died on the cross IN OUR PLACE. Just WHY do you suppose Jesus suffered being beaten and tortured and nailed to the cross, anyway ?? What exactly was He saving us from, if there is no such thing as Hell ???

I am not pointing my finger at you and being "holier than thou" as someone has said. I am simply WARNING you that you need to repent of sin just as much as I or anyone else does and recieve the salvation offered by Jesus. YOU are the one who is delusional, I'm sorry to say. You think you can earn your own forgiveness and a place in heaven. I ask you again, just WHY do you suppose that Jesus endured the pain and torture of the cross if that is even possible ??

Love is not merely a feeling. It is doing and saying the right thing to someone whether you FEEL like it or not. That is something most people know nothing about. I am sure that Jesus didn't FEEL like going to the cross and suffering the pain that He did for our sakes but He did it, anyway. Yes, you can love people without necessarily FEELING love for them and as Christians, we do. I can say that I do love gays because I don't want you to go to hell when you die, so I warned you.

Glorgn:  1820 days ago

I dont believe in heaven and hell as places we go to. They are spiritual conditions. Heaven being close to God and hell being far from God.
I do however believe in a life after this one, a spiritual life where our souls keep progressing towards God, and yes I do believe that we are called to account for our sins when we die, but love is never a sin, even loving somebody of the same sex in my book.
I believe God is way beyond the reach and keen of humankind. I dont believe God is a person or an It. God is the Unknowable Essence, but if people feel most comfortable labeling that Essence with something more familiar, no problem.
I dont see a contradiction at all in SA referring to God as an IT and Jeanie to God as a PERSON.
Christians do not have a monopoly on the truth. The Bible is not the only holy book in the world. There are others. The spiritual foundation of every religion is the same. They all speak of God or a devine source of power in the Universe and they all speak of love.
Not just physical love between people, but love in its most basic form. Love is what keeps the Universe, the atoms together. Love is the attraction between them.
What makes religious appear different are the social teachings that have accompanied each new religion, specifically catered to the day and era in which that new religion was revealed. There is no wrong religion. There are many roads to the truth.

Darkness decends when fanatisizm takes hold and people convince themselves and others that they hold the only truth possible. It doesnt matter what religion or belief structure they adhere too.
Fanatics are all the same. Narrowminded, bigoted and full of hate towards anybody and everybody who does not adhere to their brand of belief.

~SA~:  1819 days ago

I apologise if this becomes a double post but I did not receive a confirmation for the first time I posted it.

RE: Jeanie


You don't need my enlightenment. I don't need you to warn me or save me. At least this is something we should be able to agree on.

The bible I was referring to is the Old Testament, the bible before the revised New testament. You know, the original bible that had many passages stripped from it to make the New Testament easier for the Churches to manipulate their followers with. Trouble is, the sequel is never as good as the original, in movies or in story books.

Why should I not take up my issues with you? You're the one quoting the bible, not God. Until God tells me directly that "he" wrote the bible or spoke the words in the bible, then I will continue to believe that mere men wrote the bible and they did so as a way to control people, their thoughts and their actions. But I know that God is not going to speak to me because as I've said, I believe God is IT. Pure energy and love. A love that you could never understand because all you know is the controlling love. Though IT is love, IT does not control. IT allows us to be free to make our own choices in life. We learn and grow through our experiences and our decisions. This is the way it is meant to be. This is a design with a purpose. The purpose is so that we can learn and grow and become a part again of what we came from.

I'm really not sure where you see that I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth. I pointed out what I feel are flaws in what your bible teaches. I've said, I feel, many times that I do not agree with your bible and that it's simply a story book. So no, I do not agree with your bible and what it teaches. I do not believe it to be based in truth.
As far as those passages, yes, I did interpret their meaning. Still means nothing to me as the Higher Power I have to answer to did not say them.

To quote you:
"It's interesting how safe God can seem to be if He is a mere IT or thing, isn't it ?? "
Shouldn't God be safe? Shouldn't God be something or in your case someone to be looked up to and loved not feared? I should fear that which I'm trying to return to? Where is the sense in that?
Why should a positive energy make demands on anyone. It is positive, demand is a negative. True positive can know no negative. It would hurt itself if it did. It is my responsibility to hold myself to any kind of standard. So long as I live my life to the best of my abilities. Love those that I need/choose to love, have compassion for all and do not hurt others along the way, that is truly the only standard I feel I need to meet. These are the standards I feel is all that is asked of us. Not demanded, asked. This does not mean that we have to meet them if we chose not to. BUT if we don't meet them, then we suffer the consequences. I do not believe in Hell so Hell can never be one of the consequences. It's really quite simple. We are here to learn, experience and grow. Having our freedoms of choice stripped from us really stifles that process. This is why I believe there can be no demands. To demand is to control. Control is a negative power. People are stifled when ruled by a negative power. It becomes very hard to see the light when one must live under the cloud of gloom and doom. "Do as I say or you go to Hell." Where's the compassion in that?

Jesus and the cross. Hmmm, should I tell you this? Oh, why not...I'm one of those people who don't believe Jesus died on the cross. I believe another man took his place. One of his devoted followers. I believe Jesus married, had children and lived a long and fruitful life. But don't worry, you'll still get to see him in heaven. You see that is his penance for allowing a religion to be spawned in his name and for allowing the people to make him Lord and savior. He now has to reside in the heaven worlds until the very last believer passes through. He can not return to this earthly existence until then. He can not live again, learn again, experience again until he has greeted the last of the believers and shows them the truths that the churches took away when they went away from his original message to follow the teachings of other men instead. (By other men, I mean the ones who rewrote the original bible.)

You say sin. I say karma. Kind of similar but the word sin turns too much the negative and can leave a person with a sense of hopelessness unless of course they have someone else they can dump it off on. I prefer karma. There is good karma and bad karma. Bad karma is something we can learn from. It is something that we can turn to a positive if we learn the lesson brought by it, forgive ourselves make amends to those affected by it and move on. We have the ability to give ourselves absolution. This is given to us so that we can free ourselves of that which holds us down and holds us back so that

~SA~:  1819 days ago

I need to add an correction to my last post. I used to think that another took his place because I always believed that Jesus survived to a ripe old age. I never did believe that silly story that he rose from the dead and walk the earth telling peopled he'd be back. Lately I've come across information that suggests a different set of circumstances.
I actually now believe that Jesus made it to the cross. But he did not die there. When he was pulled from the cross he was still alive. They (his friends)took him, treated him and made him well again. He did not "rise" again as he was never dead in the first place. What he did do was to go into hiding and to trust in his apostles to continue spreading his message. In other words, he became a martyr in order to get the people to listen to his message and believe in him. Thus creating a religion that would have him exalted Lord and savior, King to his followers. The Spiritual Masters who had trained him solely for the purpose of bringing a message to the earth but NOT make himself a God, were not pleased. So now he sits and does his penance. He will remain in the heaven designed for Christians so that he may greet them and set the record straight. He was not born a God, he just allowed the people to make him one.
This is what I believe. If it is a truth, then one day it will be shown to all. The truth is stronger than a lie and can not remain buried forever.

BoutTime:  1819 days ago

OK - Just a quick note to the people who take the bible and pick and choose want they want to believe and live by.

How many husbands have killed their wives for sleeping in their bed while they are on their monthly cycle?

How many parents have murdered their children for calling them a bad name?

Those sins are punishable by death?

I guess that if we all took the bible word for word then we would have more wives and children killed and more people in the prison system.

FrostieOne:  1819 days ago

What kind of Pizza was it?

I mean really, you guys have an opinion on everything else from child rasing to going to hell, surly you have something to say about the topping's on the pizza

~SA~:  1819 days ago

I hope it wasn't pork because the bible says it's a sin to eat the meat of an unclean animal! *Gasp*! Tammy! Melissa! Step away from the pepperoni!!!!

janelle wheeler:  1819 days ago

Im really glad there are so many opinions being brought forth over this little tiny photo.oh my....shows the powers that be.but in all reality there needs to be a balance between good and bad, heck at least the comments are not so much to the negative as lets say george bush(the shrub). so lets all count our lucky stars those of us with private lives anyway and know that there is a price to fame and that nothing ia free.Melissa and Tammy have worked very hard in life as well as with their careers and both deserve a high five for having to deal with the continual AS THE STOMACH TURNS blog of life...BE STRONG,SPEAK TRUE AND SPREAD THE PEACE ! oh ya and melissa i have told you this before,THE BEST REVENGE IN LIFE IS TO LIVE WELL......

orin stewart:  1819 days ago

Its nice to see that women can also get trapped by gold diggers also!

Etheridge looks like Tammys mom and had just went through a breakup when the actor,Tammy show canceled and with a very poor background comes up to ask rich Etheridge out!!,,

Tammy worked at gay bars and of course knew who ETHERIDGE WAS!...Tammy talks alot about enough food! nice home..etc...she was trying to get pregant before the cancer scare! Melissa said she did the wedding thing...to give that to Tammy!!

Of course she wanted to get that huge child support nest egg!! Tammy has said many times...COMING OUT WOULD RUIN ME FOR PARTS!!..I CAME OUT WITH MELISSA!...I SMELL A BREAKUP SETTLEMENT WITH A GREAT PAYOFF FOR TAMMY!!........everything she was on tv had a short life!

If she hadnt had bagged Etheridge she would be starving back home as before! a fly by in the wind actor!!
Nobody cares about her life!! its Melissa and her famous friends are really melissas friends ...before her!!.wake up and be grateful your able to hang on the coat tails of Melissa life,fame and friends be in her famous circle!

Melissa would have a right to post negative,not Tammy shes a joke going along for the ride!...she the yoko of Melissa!!...

~SA~:  1819 days ago

Orin. Quite simply, you're a joke. Truth out shines big mouths like you. Tammy has more to offer with just a smile than I'm sure you do with every fiber of your being. Now go pour yourself another drink and hush up.

Susan Dunn:  1819 days ago

Jeanie- I am sorry but if you meant your comments to come off as 'helpful' or as a 'warning out of love' as you claim, they are not. Your comments are coming off as condecending and NO ONE is any better than anyone else on this earth of ours.

To #65 (Orin Stewart) - Read the story in the link below. This is the real Tammy Etheridge. There was no media present at any of the meetings, just a very kind person and a child, my child. When you say "nobody cares about her life" you could not be more wrong. Many, including my daughter and myself wish Tammy, Melissa and their family all the happiness and peace that they truly deserve.

http://advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid21273.asp

Jeanie:  1818 days ago

Ok, I'm back ... The liberals at TMZ locked me out, yesterday so I couldn't say anything. I just wanted to add one more thing... If you end up going to hell, it won't be because you're gay, it will be because you rejected Jesus' offer of atonement for your sins. We cannot atone for our own sins. That is why Jesus came to earth and paid the price for all the sins of all mankind. But you need to admit that you are a sinner and confess them to God and believe in His Son ! He took on all of your sins, but you need to acknowledge them and repent of them, as well. He didn't die in vain. He rose from the dead !!! That should make you shout for joy !!! If you reject that truth, then you reject God's only means of salvation. Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." I won't quote any more Bible verses at you. I wish you all God's best.

orin stewart:  1818 days ago

Sorry if the truth hurts!..Im sure there are alot of women out there who love to stalk and care about another gay women!...so carry on!!

Tammy is trying to pretend thats she something she isnt!!.Rosey,Ellen,Etheridge have all had long been popular and successful...Tammy blogs some of the nasty...breastmilk!!..F..this trash blogs!..Rosie blogs!...me too!!...If I were Julie Cypher I would copy all those nasty blogs she puts out and go to court to make sure she isnt parenting my children alone!!!..she is the worse mouthed role model for children ..even a pizza means more to her fat butt then her sons neck!!!

orin stewart:  1818 days ago

I read your site on Tammy and of course anyone would be wonderful to a make a wish child! IM NOT SAYING SHES MEAN!!...IM SAYING SHE A ATTENTION HOG THAT HANGS ON ETHERIDGE TO GET IT!!

but her wish was to meet Etheridge and ask about Melissas life not...Tammy!!

Tammy is posting blogs with foul words and nasty things to get attention!..she has said things about cats liking breast milk? and uses bad words!

her telling her boss she likes pussy more then he does and taking photos of her private parts!...this is a decent mother?..

if a guy posted this about his privates and was someones stepfather and father with his kid in a ball in a stroller,saying well hes heavy!! he would be on dateline exposed!! IN HANDCUFFS!!
becouse shes a women its ok to post disgusting shocking things to get attention!!..It wouldnt be funny or ok if it was a man and father taliking about loving pussy!

when she has step kids old enough to get wind of all that!..her image she is putting out is that of a poor white trashy nasty tag-along to the stars! SHES DOING THAT TO HERSELF!!!

Im sure when your daughter came ,Tammy ran over..First..TO GET A HUG!!
she a attention hog,then screams to get more attention when she gets its it!!

Rosey and Ellen partners are very decent,you dont see them posting foul words and saying sexual things in public to gain the light!!

they spend their time helping different causes along with their own long time hollywood jobs away from their partners fame and fans and trying to stand in front on the red carpet!!..screaming ...they took my photo!!! ...why?...and I thought those kids belonged to Etheridge also? Tammy always refers to them as HER KIDS!!..

Rosie is straight foward and outspoken,she isnt gross and crude in public! UNLIKE TAMMY THEY HAVE OTHER AVENUES, HELPING CHILDEREN AND CAUSES!..TAMMY IS INTO THE TAMMY FOUNDATION!!..LOOK AT ME!!!..POOR ME!!..
Tammys blogs are disgusting!!..my daddy special backrub!!..on and on ..pity party!! ..attention at any cause even its for pity!!

Tammy had a few parts that sizzled out and got lucky and got Etheridge and her two nest eggs!..she IS, like that guy we use to watch on happy day?...what was his name?..is is dead?....the only fame she will get is through her nasty blogs and Melissas friends and Melissa fame and fans wanting to see her and her children!

FrostieOne:  1818 days ago

? #69

Why do you read her bog if it bothers you so much?
How is it you know her so well as to quote from you,"Tammy is trying to pretend thats she something she isnt!!."

You seem to have serious anger issues.

throwing up some red flags !! maybe they should see if Tammy or Julie as a stalker and it looks like you. And that seems like a real danger