Deal, No Deal

3361. Christina - yes and if I were thinking more sinister, perhaps he wanted to be the father so if anything happened to her (especially before 18) he would be her only heir.
Just thoughts.

Posted at 9:51AM on Mar 9th 2007 by wanna know

3362. Ok, knock it off with the Howard K. Stern Slander, and that is what it is slander. You don't know anything. If Anna was an addict, which seems to be correct, you can not control an addict. If we could there would be none. Ask any relative of one, how hard they have tried.

Danielynn should stay with Howard. It was Anna's intent by the fact they went to the Bahamas together, and his name is listed on the birth certificate. There is an old saying: Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean people are not following you. I use this in reference to Annas thinking about her daughter. She wanted neither Larry nor Virgie near her. There was a reason.

Before you throw out her addiction as a reason not to believe her judgement. Then there are alot of people in the world with addictions issues you would have to cancel their work. I have been sober 17 years and gone to meetings with presidents of corporations, attorneys, Judges. It is a universal problem, and some of them are genius.

Even if she had a child with the native american man, she might have been doing the right thing by the child by leaving it with the father. Obviously she has had a torrid life. So far that child is speculation.

AS for Howard you would have to have the patience of Job to stay with someone for 10 through all of that. Maybe for millions and millions. First off the money is not a given, I think its along shot. Frankly there are other celebrities to represent that are probably a lot less work. He could have made millions on his own. Anna wanted him with her. That is why he closed up shop. His worse sin is codependence, which frankly millions of couples suffer with. He should have Danielynn, he is raising her. He was Annas choice. I think he will do well. He is learning through all of this too. Also with the witchhunt going on around him, trust me so far he is not profiting much.

As for Larry, too much flash. If he really care about Anna or Danielynn, this would not be a media circus like it is. He had bad motives. The mother don't get me started, she needs to back off.

Posted at 12:51PM on Mar 9th 2007 by What the Heck

3363. Interesting tidbit - I just heard on CNN Headline news that tonight on Nancy Grace show they will 'tell us what was on Anna's computer' that led to the delay.
I for one, am glad Ford Shelly got so much potential evidence outta that house. Prevents a cover up. I do so hope, for his sake (as I hope he did what he did for truth, not money) that he is covered legally, by deed to the house or he has witness (s) to verify Anna ask him to secure her stuff if anything ever happened.

Posted at 1:53PM on Mar 9th 2007 by wanna know

3364. What the Heck/#3398,

So Dannielynn doesn't have the right to know who her biological father is? The only reason why this is in the media is all Anna's doing. She went to the Bahamas to prevent Larry from having any claim on the child.

Howard may have been there through thick and thin with Anna but she is dead now. It doesn't make it right for Howard to continue caring for the child if she has a biological father out there who wants her.

Larry finally went public because he has to since it was the only way for him to find out if this child is his since Anna refused to work with him outside the courts. Look at this video.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15131872/

Posted at 2:59PM on Mar 9th 2007 by Stop the BS

3365. I am not sure LB is the father, Howard not be, but she accused Thompson first, and he said it can't be (which may or not be true, vasectomies fail). Then she said OK you got me.

I dont think anything is simple about this anymore. Legally because Larry protests, its his responsibility to provide proof. Frankly you guys what if its someone we don't even know about. After the Arizona child, I am perplexed.

So then what happens to Danielynn? She has a stable lifestyle, and its being supervised for proper behavior. Larry and Howard could work together to care for her together, it would enrich her life; the men her mother loved caring for her. Her rights now can be served with stability, when she gets older it can be readdressed.

You say save Danielynn, but it is not saving her to prove maybe the bartender in a restaurant is her father, or some weird man who paid for a european title to be a prince, who cheats on his wife, to be her father. It might be simplier if it were only 2 men, but she is accused of sleeping with Thompson, Stern, Birkhead, the prince took and passed a lie detector test. Is this in the best interest of a 6 months baby. NO its a witch hunt. Leave her alone she can know the truth when she cares about the truth. At 6 months I would say her needs are eating, sleeping, pooping and love.

Posted at 4:03PM on Mar 9th 2007 by What the Heck

3366. Why hasn't Dannielynn been taken into PROTECTIVE CUSTODY BY THE AUTHORITIES if Howard is suspected of foul play of Daniel and Anna? I would not put anything past him in his quest for the money! No heir would be better in his eyes!

Posted at 4:44PM on Mar 9th 2007 by Susan

3367. What the heck - What the HECK??????? Do you advocate naming who you want a father to be? If you think Howard is better than Larry, just cause it was Anna's choice then you are saying men should never have any say so or paternal rights? Just skip that biological tree, that makes you who you are???? Seriously????
If it is a matter of who would be the best parent for Dannilynn, then they would send me that precious child and she would grow up knowing she is just that - precious. She would grow up with self respect, self discipline, work ethic, value of the good that money can bring, self esteem and the one thing her mom wanted and IMHO ran from - Love.

Posted at 5:09PM on Mar 9th 2007 by wanna know

3368. 6tyniguo

Posted at 5:22PM on Mar 9th 2007 by Freedom

3369. We are not talking about avocating that for everyone, but yes in this case, for right now. It is not necessarily in her best interest. That her best interest is knowing her dad is the husband of a Gabor sister? The pretend prince. There are too many variables in this case. Don't forget he took a lie dectector test and passed. He is in the mix according to that. Thats her best interest.

She has lost her mother. She has bonded with Howard(who I fully support)and a nanny who knew and loved her mother, and whom her mother cared about. She is being supervised by the court. She is not in danger, I know those are the rumors, but thats what they are, not fact. Her best interest would be that Howard and Larry share her and work together outside of court. It doesn't appear they want to do that. When she is older it can be revisited. It is not in her best interest now. We don't know Larry is the father, she told Thompson he was the father at first.

You have no bearing in the case and frankly we don't know you are the best to parent her. So given what is realistic and within reason. I think Howard is it. I think he loved Anna and is learning from this everyday. I believe he will give her a good life. The rest of it, is frankly baloney. He didn't kill her, when she tried to drown herself, he yelled at her that people would blame him. People assume he had more power around her than he did.

I am in recovery and was clean and sober long before I had a child. I do know how addiction affects people we can be the most manipulative, strong willed, defiant people around. NO one will boss us. It is childish. If she had lived and stopped using she would have started coming out of that way of thinking and started growing up. Its inmature and destructive. I think after Daniel died she was trying to do that, amongst alot of grief. She just could not do it.

In this case yes, I advocate doing what is best for the child, isn't that what you have been screaming for???? Then think about it not the ranting, but really think about it.

Posted at 5:57PM on Mar 9th 2007 by What the Heck

3370. Earlier someone was looking for the article that talked about Anna taking a child sedative and I found it.

http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah3954.shtml
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. (UPDATE 9:05 AM PST: February 9, 2007) -- Actress, spokesperson and reality TV star Anna Nicole Smith died Thursday, February 8, at the age of 39.

Anna Nicole was rushed to Memorial Regional Hospital in Hollywood, Florida, shortly after 2PM EST after collapsing and being found unresponsive in her room at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino, as Access Hollywood and NBC affiliate WTVJ in Miami were first to report.

According to an Access Hollywood source, it appears that Anna Nicole choked on her own vomit. The source claims that Smith took what was referred to as a "children's sedative," and had "kept passing out" before her death.

Posted at 8:26PM on Mar 9th 2007 by Rinbea

3371. Inside Addition just aired and showed a dectective from LA that claims Daniel contacted him just weeks before his and his mother's death because he was concerned about his Mother's move to the Bahamas. He said he had a hard time contacting her due to Howard. The detective said the police in the Bahamas found his card on Daniel's body and they contacted him to see if he was doing an investigation. He said the boy seemed shy, and did not appear to be on drugs. Daniel did not get back with him, he went to the Bahamas where he died.

Posted at 8:01PM on Mar 9th 2007 by Beverly Kidwell

3372. Good grief, that baby does not look anything like Howard, Thank God.
He is not the fatherly type. Great man, takes picture of the mother while she is totally out of it and then adds the pictures are worth money. Good old Howard, always around with his hand little camera. He is the scum of the earth and I think Entertainment Tonight bet on the wrong horse!

Posted at 8:08PM on Mar 9th 2007 by Beverly Kidwell

3373. Who is going to be responsible if something happens to Dannylynn? Howard apparently has the yacht hope he doesn't get scared and take that baby away. He is going to be homeless soon. That house is not HIS, nor was it Annas. He is a squatter as well as a bum and she was his only client. Yea, Great Lawyer.

Posted at 8:37PM on Mar 9th 2007 by Beverly Kidwell

3374. I came across a Bahamian Community Message Board and these are some of the things they are saying in their own country about all of this. The very 1st on is where someone is pulling up an old message that they wrote in October where they are predicting that Anna will "accidentally" overdose on drugs. That kind of sent chills through me.

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject:
I hate to quote myself but here I go:

From a thread on this very message board:

myself - on October 2, 2006 wrote

I'm not surprised Stern is claiming paternity of her baby. Think about it, that child stands to inherit a lot of money, especially now that she's an only child. As the father Stern will undoubtedly have some control over the child's money. I'd watch Anna closely in the next few years. After her lawsuit is over and done and she gets her $600 million, as she absolutely will, she may be 'accidentally" overdosing on something herself. Oops, I'm sure Stern will be so 'devastated' but luckily he'll have his daughter and a LOT of money to keep him going.

Funny, how Stern's name hasn't been coming up in the news at all. Where is he? Isn't he a grieving "committed friend"? Isn't he the father of the baby or one of the numerous contenders anyway? Why hasn't he been mentioned at all?

They were supposed to get officially married on February 23rd. Stern is probably cursing Anna's grave for dying too soon before he could get set for life.

If Stern is supposedly the father why doesn't he take the child until paternity can be proven, I mean it's HIS name on the birth certificate, doesn't that give him the right to take the child? Not that I think he should have her but legal is legal, right? Well, I guess not.

And blow me away... Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband is in the daddy competition. Is this a joke or what?!? At this point I wouldn't be surprised if my brother told me he was the father. At least we know it isn't Shane Gibson, but probably not for lack of trying... hahaha.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:33 pm
Remember what the woman who was in the next room said she heard? She heard Anna Nicole yell "You caused this". I'd be pretty sure she wasn't saying it like she meant he knocked her up... I don't know, something is amiss...

Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject:
I just heard on the news that Anna Nicole was addicted to methadone and was in rehab earlier this year. Methadone was one of the three drugs that was in Daniel's system.

I don't like 'HKS' either Lily, I just am not so sure he maliciously caused the death of ANS's son. He may well have caused the death but I doubt it is a murder case. Maybe I'm wrong.

I think there's a good chance the child is Larry Birkhead's. Poor kid, though, they are reporting that the child may be addicted to methadone. Don't know if that's valid or not.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:48 am
I agree with you Wide eye, except for that certain aspects of this highlight some serious problems in our government. Such as how Ms. Smith got her permanent residency so quickly when other more valid applicants applied much earlier and are still waiting.

Also, it highlights some level of government cover-up, I think, why else was the Coroner's Court disbanded suddenly after 13 years. And why would a toxicology report take so many weeks. And why was the death ruled suspicious and then suddenly the inquest was cancelled.

I am not concerned about this case from the standpoint of her celebrity-ism, but I am a bit concerned about our government's ethics and actions in this case.

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:34 pm
This broad has nothing but trouble. She fighting with one boyfriend over her house, fighting with a next boyfriend over her baby and she still fighting to get the money from her dead husband, meanwhile she gone married her hagfag attorney.


Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:59 pm
According to IN TOUCH Mag.....the role of her lawyer, (in the death of Daniel), is being questioned. "Howard gave us a much different account of what happened when Daniel died than the story he gave on Larry King" says a Bahamian official.

Posted at 11:04PM on Mar 9th 2007 by Rinbea

3375. Also on the Nancy Grace show tonight:

I was shocked to hear that METHADONE is ILLEGAL in the Bahamas. (Even with a prescription.... it's still illegal to have METHADONE in the country of the Bahamas)

Posted at 11:04PM on Mar 9th 2007 by Rinbea