This Week's Biggest Losers 04/21/07

Try as we might, we couldn't find any online trace of those "I'm as big as Elvis and Marilyn" comments John Travolta is alleged to have made to an Irish newspaper. But that doesn't mean there wasn't any other noteworthy turmoil involving Ireland.

Alec BaldwinAlec Baldwin: Forbes' recent list of the ten most expensive Hollywood divorces had Michael Jordan and Neil Diamond leading the charge. But when it comes to quantifying the three-minute voice mail message left by Alec Baldwin for his daughter Ireland as part of an ongoing tiff with ex-wife Kim Basinger, the punch line to this "Master Cad" commercial (to borrow the accent of his "The Departed" character) is indeed "priceless." Maybe Baldwin should have videotaped the whole thing and released it as a foul-mouthed viral Internet video, a la "Landlord," the two-minute short Will Ferrell concocted with producing partner Adam McKay's 2-year-old daughter. As it stands, Baldwin has spontaneously sullied his comeback run by seemingly embracing the values of the fearsome mob boss he plays in next month's theatrical release "Brooklyn Rules."

Joan and Melissa RiversJoan Rivers, Melissa Rivers: Viewers looking to catch up with this red carpet duo may now actually have to refer to the TV Guide Channel's unending half-screen vertical scroll of program listings. As the outlet readies replacement Lisa Rinna for some "Prancing with the Stars," there is lots of time for mom to get another facelift and for daughter to make yet another appearance on Tom Green's Internet talk show. As far as we're concerned, the Rivers were already flowing downward when they decided to abandon the higher visibility on E! in favor of a boatload of cash from TV Guide parent company Gemstar. And while Joan is boasting that a deal with someone else is already in the works, let's hope for it's not QVC, where mom will be making another appearance, and bundle, a week from Monday.

Brian Williams Brian Williams: The NBC Nightly News anchor blogged this week that he felt he and his network colleagues made the right decision in releasing to the world the full video manifesto of Virginia Tech killer Cho Seung-Hui. But with each passing day, the Peacock's move smells fowl-er. Maybe someone threw down a curse on 30 Rockefeller Plaza TV execs, what with this business and the aforementioned ruckus involving the fictional boss of "30 Rock." But when your morning guy, Matt Lauer, is publicly knocking the actions of your evening guy, it's enough to make you think that the once proud acronym now stands for Numbingly Bad Call.

Joe Pesci Joe Pesci: When the 64-year-old actor popped up for a brief moment in "The Good Shepherd," it was a jarring reminder of just how long the "you-think-I'm-funny?" tiny terror has been away from the big screen. Perhaps he's getting desperate for a gig, because this week, when a pal of neighbor Robbie Williams blocked his Hollywood Hills driveway, Pesci grabbed a golf club and did his best Jack Nicholson impression. But psst, Joe: The guy next door is singer Robb-IE Williams, not actor Rob-IN Williams. In other words, no matter how good your Jack might be, he can't throw you a choice supporting role.

Richard Gere Richard Gere: In the shadow of his best big screen acting work since "An Officer and a Gentleman" (another role, incidentally, that the above-mentioned John Travolta turned down), the activist actor has gotten caught up in a Bollywood brouhaha that has all the earmarks of a "Hoax." But it's the real deal, since next to bovine disrespect, nothing makes the populace of India have a cow like the kind of public affection Gere displayed at a Monday press conference with local beauty, Shilpa Shetty. And you know how we talked about a possible "30 Rock" curse? Well, maybe that safe sex campaign that Gere was publicizing is also dangerous to celebrities. UNICEF Ambassador Ralph Fiennes was on his way to a safe sex rally when he had his alleged Mile High Club rendezvous.

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31. #4--you sound like a complete idiot. The only one who broke the law was the mother for leaking the tape? You are aware child abuse is illegal, don't you? Or are you on another planet completely?

Posted at 10:03AM on Apr 21st 2007 by Janice

32. I hope Ireland does a walk on tonight on "SNL" and reams her old man a new one. Kim could show up too just to throw some salt in the open wound.

Posted at 10:03AM on Apr 21st 2007 by Roger C

33. I think what we heard in that phone message is just a tiny taste of what Kim had to live with all those years. Hate-filled, blaming, "you victimized me", belittling, threatening - downright scary for an adult to listen to - put yourself in the shoes of an 11 or is it a 12 year old girl. This is not a normal father who got shut out of a phone call - and I have a lot of sympathy for the frustration of the decent fathers out there whose daughter is caught in the middle of that. But this is not that type of case.

Good grief - calling this "Parent Alienation Syndrome" is really just plain protection of your daughter from an extremely abusive, arrogant, mysognistic, narcissistic man. My aunt had 3 daughters who all ended up moving out to get away from a stepfather who was very much like what you heard - extreme anger, lots of mental abuse though no physical abuse or sexual abuse of them - except for the beatings he adminstered my aunt. Don't you realize that Ireland's probably heard him talk to Kim in exactly the same tone? And this was probably not the first time he's talked to his daughter like that too.

As for her releasing it - well, sometimes to stop hiding the family secret is the first step in getting abuse to stop. And if it takes recordings like this for a judge to understand what Kim and Ireland have gone through - well, I'd do it rather than letting her take the chance that Ireland's going to get broadhanded by Alex when he "comes out there to straighten you out." With someone like this, even when they're "nice" - you always live in fear of tripping the trigger that's going to make them go off again. And as you heard - it's always the victim's fault for making the abuser "look like an ass" "be insulted" and then be driven to "straighten you out".

I've worked with abused kids for 15 years - and I also have a lot of friends with healthy, safe, nurturing families. I know the difference - and that phone call was not just "Alex having a bad day" - that was a very abusive man who's very familiar with the weapons of of fear, belittling, intimidation, and manipulation.

If it takes a national humiliation to put a dent in his ego and restrain his behavior then so be it. I'm sure though that he's going to go out there with his mea culpas on talk shows like he did with Larry King - the same way every abuser does (it's called "transitory guilt" - and it's usually centered around being sorry they were caught rather than genuinely remorseful for anything they did to hurt someone else).

I definitely believe kids need good fathers in their lives to be healthy - but Alec's definitely not it. I just hope that some day Kim will be able to work through her stuff and find another man who actually could be a good father to Ireland before she grows up being afraid of men. I'd bet though that Kim's afraid of what Alec would do to that relationship if she did.

My sympathy to Kim and Ireland.

Posted at 10:07AM on Apr 21st 2007 by MTgirl

34. #16---perhaps you should get some therapy--for your children.

Posted at 10:06AM on Apr 21st 2007 by Jack

35. Alec Baldwin has a long, long history of complaints against him for threats and violent outbursts--from many, many people. Just one year ago, a woman in a play with him in New York completely quit the play because she was so afraid of him. When are people going to start facing the truth about this bully? Perhaps he could get help if he faced the truth.

Posted at 10:11AM on Apr 21st 2007 by Denese

36. It's amazing how we are all so "knowledgeable" and "armchair quarterbacks" If you've ever watched a divorce in progress while not emotionally involved, it would occur to you that there are TWO people divorcing (just as there were TWO people who married) and TWO people who made the child(ren) !!! Therefore there are TWO sides of every story!!! And even if you know the people personally, you likely are taking one side over the other based on your own history (read: baggage). Yes it is reprehensible to say those things to a child, Yes it's reprehensible to cause P.A.S., if that is what is happening -- but we don't know enough about the history (AND NEVER WILL) nor about anyone involved so I say to all you who have commented here ---- BUTT OUT !!! THIS IS NOT YOUR FAMILY, NOT YOUR DIVORCE, AND NOT YOUR LIFE !!! This site is solicting comments only to make it more salacious which MAKES MORE MONEY FOR THE SITE!!! It's not putting any of that money in your pockets!! (FYI, I ended up here from a news item link. I assume many of you did the same)





Posted at 1:09PM on Apr 22nd 2007 by Seen it & been there

37. Aint nobody driving that car but him.

Posted at 11:32PM on Apr 21st 2007 by ronnie

38.
Alec has always had temper problems and should get some professional help for that. The other side is, I can understand why he is so angry. Kim is using Ireland as a pawn, not Alec. This is ongoing and I think for him to talk to his daughter like he did, he is about to explode. Kim is the one who gave the tape to the press. I don't have a problem with the tape for the first 30 or 40 seconds. He is giving Ireland a good tongue lashing. But to call her a "pig". That is above and beyond. He is still the adult and her father. That should never have been said. When I think of how she must feel it makes me a little sick to my stomach.

Posted at 10:44AM on Apr 21st 2007 by nd

39. I cannot believe the comments I have read about this. First of all , no matter how much anyone has read about the situation between Alec & Kim NONE of us REALLY knows what has happened between them except them. Second , even if she has done all she has been accused of ( which I highly doubt ) that IN NO WAY EXCUSES him saying what he did to his daughter, not just the cursing ( which is bad enough ) but then to threaten her like he is a thug he has played in the movies is inexcusable. Maybe the reason Kim is looked at as such a conniving part of this situation , is because Alec is such a hot headed , over the top, control freak , that shouts from the hilltops when he FEELS he has been wronged. Maybe he needs to get a little anger management counseling, and try to figure out that in life you simply don't always get your own way the way you want it how you want it or when you want it,grow up a little Alec. When i came across this today and played it on my PC , my son in another room heard it and yelled to me " that sounds like my dad " and I had already been thinking exactly that while hearing it, and I can promise you my ex is doing it all to himself with our son. I NEVER have or do bad mouth his father to him ( he does badmouth me to our son) I Never rant,rave and threaten our son when things don't go exactly the way I thought they should of ( he does) I Never have said to my son that he can't take or make a phone call to his father or go to see his father whenever he has wanted ( he has in reverse) so my ex is doing a fine and dandy job of alienating our son from himself all on his own with no help or " brainwashing" from me. Maybe Mr. Baldwin simply isn't a nice person and he needs help. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise that this voicemail was leaked , because it is proof of how the man is, not what he wants us and the courts to see. I have been driven to infuriation too , we all have. How many of you would have made that call to your child no matter how angry or frustrated you were?

Posted at 11:17AM on Apr 21st 2007 by Tina

40. I have to agree with #8 P.A.S. Parental Alienation Syndrome Shame on Kim! There is two sides to every story, and maybe he has never spoke to her in this manner before.
I think he used very poor choices in words, but it sounds like he has tried very hard to call her at the assigned times and he felt like she didn't care or respect him enough to have her phone on, and it sounds like this wasn't the first time. As parents we will all make mistakes, but our mistakes are not made public by the "Media Giants" the love this kind of thing.

Posted at 12:09PM on Apr 21st 2007 by Angie G

41. Alec Baldwin is, simply put, a nut.

Anyone who has listened to this buffoon on the news BEFORE his phone meltdown already knows the man is a kook with frightening anger issues. That he calls his daughter such horrible and ugly names and threatens her isn't at all surprising. Neither is it surprising that even after being outed, he STILL thinks HIS abuse of his daughter is a plot against him!

It's clear Baldwin is crazy, but apparently he's also delusional! Who put a gun to his head to force him to leave that message? Did it EVER occur to this imbecile that the reason his daughter doesn't answer the phone is that she's terrified of him?

I sure as hell was terrified after hearing those words and the TONE in this maniac's voice!

What a sick, sick man. Please, someone do the kind thing and force this man into counseling, along with a few pounds of Lithium!

Until Baldwin DEMONSTRATES that he has dealt with his uncontrollable anger issues, he shouldn't be allowed NEAR his daughter without supervision (preferably an armed officer of the court, because this guy really IS unhinged.)

Posted at 3:03AM on Apr 24th 2007 by Katy

42. #35, dorothy - well said.

Posted at 1:57PM on Apr 21st 2007 by SinCity

43. if baldwin was the last so called actor left in the world I would never turn on my tv or buy another dvd.

Posted at 4:48PM on Apr 21st 2007 by johnnie f.king

44. I think that what Alec had to say to his daughter was his personal business. People talk to their children like this all the time, and only when its a celebrity do people get concerned. He was clearly taking his anger for Kim out on his daughter a)because Kim won't talk to him and b)because he knows that Kim is manipulating his daughter. There is no perfect parent and when the only thing you've heard about a certain person leaving his daughter a nasty message because she won't answer his phone calls, that's fine with me. Obviously he wants to be a part in her life.

Posted at 10:22PM on Apr 21st 2007 by Astro07

45. 33 - you posted: "First, TMZ violated a person's privacy by publicly allowing this tape to be circulated. It's embaressing to listen to. " " it is more wrong to take that recording and make it public. Worse is that web sites use that for their own promotion. TMZ is a disgrace."

Well that is interesting. If you feel so strongly that TMZ violated a persons privacy by playing the tape on their site and it is sooooo "embarrassing" to listen to as you put it, then why did you? Did someone hold a gun to your head and force you to go to the TMZ article and to listen to this tape? Did they? Because if they did, then I would strongly encourage you to contact the police. Obviously you chose to listen to it and then you trashed TMZ for playing it as you whine about how private it should have been. You hypocrite.

Posted at 4:56PM on Apr 21st 2007 by SinCity

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