Alec Baldwin Gives His "View"

Alec Baldwin was welcomed with applause to a sitdown in a taped segment that aired on "The View" today, with Baldwin giving a heartfelt and somber tale of parental alienation that drove him to the boiling point.

Baldwin said that his "deep and endless frustration" in being unable to communicate with his daughter, Ireland, led him to misdirect his anger to the child, because he "can't address the other person in this dynamic," but stopped short of mentioning Kim Basinger.

The "30 Rock" star went on to address the topic of parental alienation and his frustration with a litigious and complicated custody battle. Baldwin said he was sorry for all those who were offended ... also mentioning how many people he'd heard from who had either been abused by a parent, or frustrated with an ex-wife, and those who were alienated from their children.

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586. Here you have a man who truly loves his daughter! He has to go through hoops to see her! You know darn well his ex was not letting their daughter receive calls from him because she hates him! He was frustrated and called his daughter a name that was meant for his ex. He wanted his ex to hear it---that it is SHE who is the "pig." How do we know that Ireland even heard it? Now of course since it's been played in the media she has. Alec was dead wrong for saying what he said. He apologized profusely! Alec loves his daughter and Kim has time and time again refused him to see her-even though it is court ordered that he does. Shame on his ex . Alec apologized and was heartfelt in doing so. I'd be angry too if I couldn't see my children either, especially if I knew for certain the ex was behind it. I'm sure Kim has lost her temper also as we all have! Not proud of it but he can't even talk to his daughter to apologize to her!

Posted at 9:35AM on May 3rd 2007 by Jackie

587. Kim baited Alec and he grabbed it! Not too smart, considering they have a custody hearing in May!

Posted at 9:39AM on May 3rd 2007 by Jackie

588. A lot of posters obviously don't come from abusive backgrounds and have no understanding whatsoever. I'm happy for them, but the posts make me snort out loud because they're so off base. (Maybe I'm a "little pig" too with all this snorting I've been doing while reading them?)

To those who think that all is well because Ireland looks relaxed in a picture with her father. Please think more deeply.

I had a school friend who was horribly abused at home (beaten and raped) but was upbeat and positive, always smiling. Too much smiling is actually a red flag sometimes!

In the same way that one voicemail doesn't make Alec an abuser, but rather his whole history, one photo can't tell the whole story either.

Abusers are not abusive 100% of the time, and abused kids don't cower in corners with their arms over their heads 100% of the time either. There are good times and bad times in abused kid's lives. When the abuser is relaxed things can go great.

An abuser can be extremely loving, charming and great fun when things are going their way, (or they have just the right level of booze), but things can turn ugly real fast, and you never know what's going to set them off.

Abused kid learns very early on in life to keep their facial expressions positive around an abuser in order to avoid the ever present potential of an attack. Abused spouses do the same thing.

My father: "You've got ten seconds to get that look off your face" if I had any negativity on my face whatsoever.

Re Ireland looking tense with her mum. (Snorting here). She's 11 and a stranger is pointing a camera at her. Basinger's fault for releasing the tape? Hold your horses. Nobody yet knows how tmz got hold of the tape. I presume people at the court building heard it? People give stories to National Enquirer etc all the time. Ask Oprah.

Just saying.

Posted at 11:02AM on May 3rd 2007 by Anonymous

589. No one but Baldwin is responsible for HIS behavior.
The Courts know that too.
No one can 'bait' anyone unless the person being baited has no control over themselves.

Baldwin proved he has no control whatever over his temper.

He blew his chance to have parental control over his kid.
He doesn't deserve any parental rights.
He's abusive.

Posted at 12:22PM on May 3rd 2007 by Linda

590. Perhaps the kid doesn't want to talk to him? He uses her to get a cheap laugh on TV, making fun of her to millions of viewers, and then expects all to be warm and fuzzy when he calls later that same evening?

Yet another clue that he only thinks of himself and his needs and feelings.


Posted at 1:05PM on May 3rd 2007 by RandomPerson

591. Comment #587, please read comments under "Kim Basinger Saves Face", interesting!

Posted at 1:47PM on May 3rd 2007 by Outraged parent against PAS

592. Anon
No! I don't trust the courts obviously because what I am going through. But what was I supposed to do at the time? I left and took my kids. I went to a shelter. I could have stayed with my parents. I was told by attorneys and advocates that if I keep my children away from their father I would be considered a hostile parent. I new the risk of losing custody of my children because I had several group sessions at the time with many mothers who lost custody that were abused by their spouses. Believe it or not I spoke with fathers also that lost custody of their children to their abusive wives. Not all mothers deserve to be mothers either. This is not a gender issue. But you can't take the law into your own hands and decide what is best for your child/children as much as you want to. This is not a "LIFE TIME" for women movie where your watching it through a screen and feeling safe and saying to yourself this can't happen to me or this is what I would do if this happened because you DON'T know unless it does. Let me ask you! What experience if any do you have in regards to this subject?

Posted at 8:51PM on May 3rd 2007 by michelle

593. This is for the attorney Mr. Ducote who probably defends every abusive,sick, bipolar, schizophrenic client that he possibly can. I am glad Mr. Gardner is dead if this is what he did. But some of the sickest people were geniuses as frightening as it is. To make a statement that PAS is not even recognized as you said is the whole problem here. Instead of putting your brain to work for the alienator, why don't you do something with it to help the people aware of the effects it has on parents and children. See! Your smart but sick too!

Posted at 9:21PM on May 3rd 2007 by michelle

594. THIS IS FOR MICHELLE AND EVERYONE ELSE INTERESTED!


EXTRA EXTRA

READ ALL ABOUT HIM!!!

WWW.RICHARD DUCOTE ESQ.EXPOSED!

HE IS THE DEVIL!

Posted at 9:46PM on May 3rd 2007 by LARRY

595. This is in response to Larry!
I actually have to apologize to Mr. Ducote. I read his biography and he is actually for people like myself. I admit I am embarrassed. I have actually watched him on television and wished that I could at least talk with him. His interpretation of PAS and mine may differ but he is on my team! I should not have been so quick to speak without knowing the facts and that goes for everyone!

Posted at 10:26PM on May 3rd 2007 by michelle

596. SORRY THAT I STEERED YOU WRONG AND MADE THE GUY LOOK BAD. BUT I DO AGREE THAT YOU DID THE RIGHT THING BY NOT NOT RUNNING AWAT WITH YOUR KIDS! 20 YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS ALMOST UNHEARD OF FATHERS GETTING CUSTODY MY DAD WON CUSTODY OF ME. I WAS AN ONLY CHILD. HE MADE THE COURTS BELIEVE HIM AND MADE MY MOTHER LOOK MENTALLY ILL. SHE WAS CAUSE HE DID IT TO HER. SHE WAS TERRIFIED OF HIM. I HEARD SHE WOULD GET UP ON THE COURT STAND AND CRY UNCONTROLLABLY AND HE WOULD THINK IT WAS FUNNY AND LAUGH AND JOKE ABOUT IT TO ME. MY DAD WAS NEVER ABUSIVE TO ME PHYSICALLY BUT I WATCHED MY MOTHER GET BEATN ALMOST EVERY DAY. NOTHING SHE DID WAS RIGHT TO HIM. THE ONLY TIME HE WOULD LET HER SEE ME WAS ONLY IF SHE HAD SEX WITH HIM AND THEN IT WAS AN HOUR AT MCDONALDS FOR ME AND HER. I BEGAN TO SIDE WITH HIM CAUSE ONE DAY WHEN MY MOM CAME OVER TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM SO SHE CAN SEE ME HE MADE HER HAVE SEX WITH HIM AND HIS FRIEND AND THEN MY MOM WENT TO THE BATHROOM AND WAS THROWING UP! MY DAD PICKED HER UP AND ACTUALLY THROUGH HER OUTSIDE AND SAID SINCE YOUR THROWING UP YOUR TO SICK TO TAKE THE KID TO MCDONALDS. THE NEXT DAY I WENT TO THE POLICE AND TOLD THEM WHAT MY DAD DID BUT THEY DID NOT TALK TO MY MOM FIRST BUT ASKED MY DAD WHAT HAD HAPPENED. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY SAID CAUSE I WAS TOLD TO WAIT INSIDE WHILE THEY SPOKE TO HIM OUTSIDE. AFTERWARDS MY DAD CAME INSIDE AND SAID TO ME AND SAID DO YOU THINK MY BUDDIES THE POLICE WERE REALLY GOING TO BELIEVE YOU? HE THROUGH ALL THE FOOD OUT OF THE REFRIGERATOR AND I DID NOT EAT FOR 5 DAYS AS PUNISHMENT EXCEPT FOR HI-C FRUIT DRINKS AND NABISCO CRACKERS. BUT MY MOM STARTED TO FIGHT FOR ME AND GOT STRONG AND GOT CUSTODY OF ME 2 YEARS LATER. I HATE MY FATHER FOR WHAT HE DID TO ME AND MY MOM. MY MOM FEELS FOR YOU TO. SHE SAYS DO NOT EVER LET ANYONE PUT YOU DOWN OR SHOW DISBELIEF TOWARDS YOU. SHE LIVED IT TO. BLESS YOU.

Posted at 2:42PM on May 16th 2007 by LARRY

597. I think that Kim is the one who leaked this to the press & SHE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF!!!!!!!! Alec didn't do anything that the rest of us haven't done but we didn't have it broadcast on CNN !! Give the guy a break for being human..

Posted at 11:05AM on May 4th 2007 by Debbie

598. This "Parental Alienation" spin", Alec Baldwin is trying to spin to the public is ridiculous. He will appear on the "View" on Friday in which Rosie has in public supported him. The truth is it's a farce. I bet the majority of parents who claim "Parental Alienation", are parents who are controlling and abusive, just as Mr. Baldwin's past, shows a history of. It's not a secret Mr. Baldwin cannot control his temper, this is the age of the internet look it up, he has shown this over and over. He has a very distinct anger problem, and a mother like me cringes when I heard his voicemail, because I and our child lived with a "Mr. Baldwin". They are so good at putting up a front in the public, trying to make you believe everything is perfect in their life, dressing nice and being able to change their narssatistic personality on a dime, and may even shed tears , but when you've lived with this type of personality you know it's all a front, it's not like that at home! A mother's first instinct is to protect her child at any cost. A controlling, narssatistic, abusive attitude is usually the cover-up for claiming "Parental Alienation"! The Judges in my case wouldn't even talk with my child at 15 years of age, even after our child threatened to take their life because they never wanted to be forced to see him again. They still refused to talk to our child and passed the buck to someone else! My ex alinated and berated not only our child but also myself to their face. Then he had the stones to blame me to our child. Our child knew none of this was true, because they lived it. He was the father and husband I have described above, abusive, controlling, with a narssatistic personality and he tried to control our child by hurting me, it didn't work, it backfired. I had to make so many choices in my life to protect our child until the truth came out, and when it did, it showed the deception of this father claiming "Parental Alienation". I will never regret giving up anything to protect our child! Our child was very depressed over the situation, which was presented as fact to the court. No parent, mother or father, should have to see their child in the ICU with tubes hooked up to them while they're watching the clock until their precious child is out of danger because they tried to take their life over a father who took the easy way out of claiming "Parental Alienation" and the money to go with it. They're are more women than men in his country, which means there are many mothers who have lived with a "Mr. Baldwin"! We can make a difference in putting a stop to losing our children! Never should this happen once to any parent, when it was preventable by the courts! Children at 12, 13, 16, should have a say, they are mature enough at this age to speak their own minds, new laws need to be put in place, first to protect the child at any cost! Any loving parent who has teenagers know you can't put words into their mouths at this age, you're more concerned with what comes out of their mouths! The "Parental Alienation" groups are "hard-core fundamentalists who believe soley in father's rights", even if they have been proven to have past and/or present anger, abusive or emotional problems. Many times they are aggresive, emotionally, physically abusive,or have been in the past. They usually have enough money for high-priced "Parental Alienation" or family law attorney's and the other party usually doesn't. I believe this is why so many mother's dissapear with their child(ren) because they believe it's a lose/lose situation, they can't trust the court to help protect their child(ren, or make the right decisions when our precious childrens lives are at stake. Mother's will give up their life fo protect their child(ren), even when they have to give up a certain lifestyle. They will leave and live in poverty just to protect their child(ren) How many more young sons and daughter's do we have to lose before the people of AMERICA , get real. Abuse is abuse no matter what form it's in. Divorce means you have less then a 50% chance your marriage will end, but it's looking up! Hopefully, this isn't at the expense of our young children. Our child threatened before to take their life at age 13, because I was foced to make them go with their father against their will. Family Court Judges in my state, until recently, were in for life. One of these Judges acted like "Judge Judy" in the court room, getting the audience involved in their antics! This was in family court, which was a open court. I was the only parent there fighting for my child's life, while there were prisioners in orange jumpsuits in chaims, women and men, for contempt of court, domestic abuse, drugs, dwi's, ect., yet I had to present my family court case in front of them, being my own attorney. My ex's attorney was high-priced, well known in the community, and even had connections with the local government. Even after I pleaded and begged with the Judge that my child's life was in danger, they ignored me. How can the court system demand that family court/custody issues should be kept under wraps? My situation with our child has been ongoing for over 10 years, but 10 years is peanuts compared to my child having a happy, stable,loving home environment, and to help them come to terms with their past so they can move forward! Maybe this will give some of you "Baldwin supporter's something to think about! The sad part is after everything, counseling, depression, medication, my pleading, crying to the court as a mother, that our child's life was in danger, they reprimanded me and warned me they would change custody if I interfered. They called Interfering when our 15 year old child is having panic attacks, hyper-ventalating, won't get out of the car, clinging to you, begging you not to make them go! Having your ex call the cops on you, scaring your child even more, not because the mother didn't want them to go, our child knew what they were going to at their father's house! Almost a year later my ex made a last ditch effort to hurt our chid, and filed for custody of our child at age 16. This pushed our child over the edge, even though I was his target! Our child went thourgh with her threat that if she was forced to see him or the thought of having to live with him, because he filed for custody. She theatened to either run away or take their own life. A month later our child tried to take their life, thank God they didn't succeed! Also, thank God, in our case we finally had a woman Judge who was also a mother, and put a stop to this tragedy. It's sad the damage has already been done to our child. I fought with every being of my body to protect our child, like Kim has been doing in court for so long, It took me 12 years, hang in there Kim!
CONCERNED PARENT

Posted at 1:50PM on Apr 26th 2007 by CONCERED PARENT

169. What if there was "proof beyond a resonable doubt" that Mr. Baldwin is/or has been in the past abusive, either emotionally or physically? No wonder some children dissrespect adult's so much, when they can't even coun't on the American justice system to protect them! Would you still support him "WOW"? Or might you finally agree that this is a mother trying to protect her child, what does it take? There are documented accounts of his anger management issues and his irratic behavior and temper!! His daughter was probable afraid to pick up the phone cal beause every time he calls her he makes her cry on the phone!

Posted at 4:24PM on Apr 26th 2007 by CONCERNED PARENT


Posted under "Kim Basinger Saves Face".

To "G " , thank you for your comments, everyone should read them! To Sherry,
comment #175, I'm so sorry that our family court system failed your son as well it did my child. No mother can explain in words, what it feels like to not be able to protect your own child from an abusive, controlling, out of control tempered parent because of money, power, or the COURTS. We even had a "Parenting Time Expediitor" appointed by the court who was suppose to "do what was in the best interest of our child", but he was selected by my ex and his attorney illegally, behind my back. I was suppose to have an input into who was selected, but somehow????, the court documents were sent to the wrong address and I didn't even know someone had been selected until a letter from the courts informed me. This person was also a mental health care provider who enabled my ex and his behavior. Oh by the way, my ex had a very expensive attorney who was a former government official in the same small county, I had to be my own attorney most of the time. I have been fighting to protect my child's life for the last 12 years. Even with their father's documented history of abusive behavior, my begging and pleading to the court that our child had threatened suicide if they were still forced on lengthly visits, the court still wouldn't believe us and did nothing. These visits were sometimes months at a time where they were not allowed to see me for periods of months, over the summer and on every school break, it was devastating to our child and our family. My ex thought he was punishing me by hurting our child. Our child did attempt to take their life, thank God they failed. After this, my child told me they had taped their father and his behavior. We turned over the tapes and transcripts to the courts proving truth to what our child and myself had been saying for years. The "Parenting time Expeditor" even heard the tapes which proved my ex had been lying to him and the courts for years. He still did nothing but continue to force our child on lenghty visitations, even after their suicide attempt. I truly believe he was a supporter of PAS and the extremist, father's rights group. After hearing Mr. Baldwin's message, I cringed at his voice, been there done that. Now Mr. Baldwin want's to commit his life to his PAS cause and write a book, pleasssssseeeeee! Ms. Basinger and her child have probably been dealing with this behavior for years. I just hope Ireland will or is getting good mental health care so another child isn't lost to our failing family court system. It's horrible that sometimes it takes tape recordings to expose abuse and protect our children when the courts won't listen, but how many more parent's have to watch their precious child fighing for their life with tubes and monitors on them, because you weren't allowed by the courts to protect them?

CONCERNED PARENT

Posted at 12:29AM on May 4th 2007 by Outraged parent against PAS

599. This "Parental Alienation" spin", Alec Baldwin is trying to spin to the public is ridiculous. He will appear on the "View" on Friday in which Rosie has in public supported him. The truth is it's a farce. I bet the majority of parents who claim "Parental Alienation", are parents who are controlling and abusive, just as Mr. Baldwin's past, shows a history of. It's not a secret Mr. Baldwin cannot control his temper, this is the age of the internet look it up, he has shown this over and over. He has a very distinct anger problem, and a mother like me cringes when I heard his voicemail, because I and our child lived with a "Mr. Baldwin". They are so good at putting up a front in the public, trying to make you believe everything is perfect in their life, dressing nice and being able to change their narssatistic personality on a dime, and may even shed tears , but when you've lived with this type of personality you know it's all a front, it's not like that at home! A mother's first instinct is to protect her child at any cost. A controlling, narssatistic, abusive attitude is usually the cover-up for claiming "Parental Alienation"! The Judges in my case wouldn't even talk with my child at 15 years of age, even after our child threatened to take their life because they never wanted to be forced to see him again. They still refused to talk to our child and passed the buck to someone else! My ex alinated and berated not only our child but also myself to their face. Then he had the stones to blame me to our child. Our child knew none of this was true, because they lived it. He was the father and husband I have described above, abusive, controlling, with a narssatistic personality and he tried to control our child by hurting me, it didn't work, it backfired. I had to make so many choices in my life to protect our child until the truth came out, and when it did, it showed the deception of this father claiming "Parental Alienation". I will never regret giving up anything to protect our child! Our child was very depressed over the situation, which was presented as fact to the court. No parent, mother or father, should have to see their child in the ICU with tubes hooked up to them while they're watching the clock until their precious child is out of danger because they tried to take their life over a father who took the easy way out of claiming "Parental Alienation" and the money to go with it. They're are more women than men in his country, which means there are many mothers who have lived with a "Mr. Baldwin"! We can make a difference in putting a stop to losing our children! Never should this happen once to any parent, when it was preventable by the courts! Children at 12, 13, 16, should have a say, they are mature enough at this age to speak their own minds, new laws need to be put in place, first to protect the child at any cost! Any loving parent who has teenagers know you can't put words into their mouths at this age, you're more concerned with what comes out of their mouths! The "Parental Alienation" groups are "hard-core fundamentalists who believe soley in father's rights", even if they have been proven to have past and/or present anger, abusive or emotional problems. Many times they are aggresive, emotionally, physically abusive,or have been in the past. They usually have enough money for high-priced "Parental Alienation" or family law attorney's and the other party usually doesn't. I believe this is why so many mother's dissapear with their child(ren) because they believe it's a lose/lose situation, they can't trust the court to help protect their child(ren, or make the right decisions when our precious childrens lives are at stake. Mother's will give up their life fo protect their child(ren), even when they have to give up a certain lifestyle. They will leave and live in poverty just to protect their child(ren) How many more young sons and daughter's do we have to lose before the people of AMERICA , get real. Abuse is abuse no matter what form it's in. Divorce means you have less then a 50% chance your marriage will end, but it's looking up! Hopefully, this isn't at the expense of our young children. Our child threatened before to take their life at age 13, because I was foced to make them go with their father against their will. Family Court Judges in my state, until recently, were in for life. One of these Judges acted like "Judge Judy" in the court room, getting the audience involved in their antics! This was in family court, which was a open court. I was the only parent there fighting for my child's life, while there were prisioners in orange jumpsuits in chaims, women and men, for contempt of court, domestic abuse, drugs, dwi's, ect., yet I had to present my family court case in front of them, being my own attorney. My ex's attorney was high-priced, well known in the community, and even had connections with the local government. Even after I pleaded and begged with the Judge that my child's life was in danger, they ignored me. How can the court system demand that family court/custody issues should be kept under wraps? My situation with our child has been ongoing for over 10 years, but 10 years is peanuts compared to my child having a happy, stable,loving home environment, and to help them come to terms with their past so they can move forward! Maybe this will give some of you "Baldwin supporter's something to think about! The sad part is after everything, counseling, depression, medication, my pleading, crying to the court as a mother, that our child's life was in danger, they reprimanded me and warned me they would change custody if I interfered. They called Interfering when our 15 year old child is having panic attacks, hyper-ventalating, won't get out of the car, clinging to you, begging you not to make them go! Having your ex call the cops on you, scaring your child even more, not because the mother didn't want them to go, our child knew what they were going to at their father's house! Almost a year later my ex made a last ditch effort to hurt our chid, and filed for custody of our child at age 16. This pushed our child over the edge, even though I was his target! Our child went thourgh with her threat that if she was forced to see him or the thought of having to live with him, because he filed for custody. She theatened to either run away or take their own life. A month later our child tried to take their life, thank God they didn't succeed! Also, thank God, in our case we finally had a woman Judge who was also a mother, and put a stop to this tragedy. It's sad the damage has already been done to our child. I fought with every being of my body to protect our child, like Kim has been doing in court for so long, It took me 12 years, hang in there Kim!
CONCERNED PARENT

Posted at 1:50PM on Apr 26th 2007 by CONCERED PARENT

What if there was "proof beyond a resonable doubt" that Mr. Baldwin is/or has been in the past abusive, either emotionally or physically? No wonder some children dissrespect adult's so much, when they can't even coun't on the American justice system to protect them! Would you still support him "WOW"? Or might you finally agree that this is a mother trying to protect her child, what does it take? There are documented accounts of his anger management issues and his irratic behavior and temper!! His daughter was probable afraid to pick up the phone cal beause every time he calls her he makes her cry on the phone!

Posted at 4:24PM on Apr 26th 2007 by CONCERNED PARENT


Posted under "Kim Basinger Saves Face".

To "G " , thank you for your comments, everyone should read them! To Sherry,
comment #175, I'm so sorry that our family court system failed your son as well it did my child. No mother can explain in words, what it feels like to not be able to protect your own child from an abusive, controlling, out of control tempered parent because of money, power, or the COURTS. We even had a "Parenting Time Expediitor" appointed by the court who was suppose to "do what was in the best interest of our child", but he was selected by my ex and his attorney illegally, behind my back. I was suppose to have an input into who was selected, but somehow????, the court documents were sent to the wrong address and I didn't even know someone had been selected until a letter from the courts informed me. This person was also a mental health care provider who enabled my ex and his behavior. Oh by the way, my ex had a very expensive attorney who was a former government official in the same small county, I had to be my own attorney most of the time. I have been fighting to protect my child's life for the last 12 years. Even with their father's documented history of abusive behavior, my begging and pleading to the court that our child had threatened suicide if they were still forced on lengthly visits, the court still wouldn't believe us and did nothing. These visits were sometimes months at a time where they were not allowed to see me for periods of months, over the summer and on every school break, it was devastating to our child and our family. My ex thought he was punishing me by hurting our child. Our child did attempt to take their life, thank God they failed. After this, my child told me they had taped their father and his behavior. We turned over the tapes and transcripts to the courts proving truth to what our child and myself had been saying for years. The "Parenting time Expeditor" even heard the tapes which proved my ex had been lying to him and the courts for years. He still did nothing but continue to force our child on lenghty visitations, even after their suicide attempt. I truly believe he was a supporter of PAS and the extremist, father's rights group. After hearing Mr. Baldwin's message, I cringed at his voice, been there done that. Now Mr. Baldwin want's to commit his life to his PAS cause and write a book, pleasssssseeeeee! Ms. Basinger and her child have probably been dealing with this behavior for years. I just hope Ireland will or is getting good mental health care so another child isn't lost to our failing family court system. It's horrible that sometimes it takes tape recordings to expose abuse and protect our children when the courts won't listen, but how many more parent's have to watch their precious child fighing for their life with tubes and monitors on them, because you weren't allowed by the courts to protect them?

CONCERNED PARENT

Posted at 1:34AM on May 4th 2007 by CONCERNED PARENT

600. "Even with their father's documented history of abusive behavior, my begging and pleading to the court that our child had threatened suicide if they were still forced on lengthly visits, the court still wouldn't believe us and did nothing. "

Too bad. It should have taken away the kid from you as you obviously scared it of its own father.

"These visits were sometimes months at a time where they were not allowed to see me for periods of months, over the summer and on every school break, it was devastating to our child and our family. "

So the father has no right to be with his child for months w/out you poking your nose in it, but vice versa, its okay? - Sounds like a A1 control freak to me.


"We turned over the tapes and transcripts to the courts proving truth to what our child and myself had been saying for years. The "Parenting time Expeditor" even heard the tapes which proved my ex had been lying to him and the courts for years. He still did nothing but continue to force our child on lenghty visitations, even after their suicide attempt."

The father's behaviour obviously was not as abusive as you deemed it to be. You are biased in this matter, thus there are judges who decide what's best for a child. Does it not go into your head that a child needs both parents and that you cannot deprive a child of its father just because YOU think he is a bad person?

"Now Mr. Baldwin want's to commit his life to his PAS cause and write a book, pleasssssseeeeee! Ms. Basinger and her child have probably been dealing with this behavior for years. I just hope Ireland will or is getting good mental health care so another child isn't lost to our failing family court system. It's horrible that sometimes it takes tape recordings to expose abuse and protect our children when the courts won't listen, but how many more parent's have to watch their precious child fighing for their life with tubes and monitors on them, because you weren't allowed by the courts to protect them?"

Now mental health care is better for Ireland than having a relationship with her father? Your whole post does sound to me as if you were a control freak big time. And you did not say exactly what the father of your child did to it that was so horrible - the court obviously did not deem it as horrible as you do. Good for them. If your child attempted suicide and suffered of panic attacks, I wonder what you told it about its father and what your part was in the suffering of your kid. Sounds to me as if you created fear of its father in the poor lil thing, probably telling it over and over again what a "monster" Dad is. The court should have taken the child away from you! How dare to blackmail the court with a "threatened" suicide of your child? - Sick.
Not all mothers are saints, many are simply using that "mothers will do everything they can to protect their kids." to cover what they really are... mean, vicious narcists who will use their children mercilessly for their own goals - like getting back at the father - and they do not give a damn what damage they are doing to them, those "saints". As long as they have control over the kid it might work - thats why they eagerly try to stay in control - but later in life the kid will look right through such a lying, manipulative bitch and will condemn her for what she did. - That's the reason my mother is scared to meet me nowadays, because she knows I look through her and know what she did to me and my Dad.

I hope Alec Baldwin does not let KB wipe him off of his daughter's life. Ireland will later see his attempts to contact her as what it is: love from her Dad.
I always thought KB just wanted a child before it is too late for her, but not the man. She probably would like it if the father would not give a damn about his daughter. She should have considered test-tube fertilisation from some unknown sperm donator instead of causing such a mess to her child and its father, when she cannot accept that fathers/children have rights, too, which do not include her.













































































Posted at 5:52AM on May 4th 2007 by SJ44

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