Kim Basinger "Very, Very Happy" with Custody Hearing

76. The only people who know what's truly going on is Alex and Kim! Parental Alienation is a horrible situation and can cause the alienated parent to lose their temper, even to the point where it looks verbally abusive. I know this because it happened to my best friend. Her husband was alienating her children and they did nothing but tell her how much they hated her, called her names, and refused to listen to her. One day she lost her temper and went to hit her son on the shoulder with the back of her hand. He ducked and she ended up hitting him in the face. She lost full custody of her children over that one incident and her ex has convinced everyone, including the courts, police, DYFUS, etc. that she's an abusive parent and not worthy of loving her own children. That was the first time she had his one of her children. I'm not saying she never yelled at them, which is easy when you get no emotional support, but she was not abusive! She finally ended up getting shared custody because she fought long and hard. Her two sons still believe she's evil and won't have anything to do with her. Luckily her daughter still loves her and has requested to live with her mother.

Below is from a website on how parental alienation occurs. I think if I went through this, I'd "lose" at times also.

* Encouraging the child to pretend the other parent doesn't exist. This can range from not allowing the child to mention the other parent's name to refusing to acknowledge that the child has fun with the other parent.

* Leading the child to believe it is his or her choice as to whether or not to spend time with the other parent.

* Attacking the other parent's character or lifestyle, such as job, living arrangements, planned activities with the child, clothing and friends (particularly new romantic partners).

* Putting the child in the middle, by encouraging the child to spy on the other parent or take messages back and forth.

* Emphasizing the other parent's flaws, such as an occasional burst of temper or not being prepared for the child's activities. Normal parental lapses are blown out of proportion and the child is repeatedly reminded of them.

* Discussing court battles between the parents with the child, and encouraging the child to take sides.

* Making the child think there is reason to be afraid of the other parent.

* Lying about how the other parent treats the child. If this is done frequently enough, the child may begin to believe even preposterous suggestions.

* Rewriting history, such as suggesting to the child that the other parent never cared for him or her, even as an infant. The child has no memory of prior events and so can't determine whether the alienating parent is telling the truth or not.

I'm not saying Alec is not guilty but I'm also not convinced he is.

Posted at 1:28PM on May 5th 2007 by N Smith

77. Go, Kim & Ireland!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!! That stupid ignorant abusive man needs to pay for what he did. He is gonna get what's coming to him. He is out of control!

I bet his lawyer had him locked up somewhere to prevent him from going into that court and showing his ass. They know that Alec can't control his rage and would have shown who he is in front of the judge. Men like that have no control. I bet the next time he is required to show up in court, his lawyers have him xanaxed up to the max, too!! That'd be the only way to control that raging abuser.

What goes around, comes around Alec!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You worthless piece of crap!!!

Posted at 1:39PM on May 5th 2007 by alec is an abusive father is getting what he deserves

78. * Attacking the other parent's character or lifestyle, such as job, living arrangements, planned activities with the child, clothing and friends (particularly new romantic partners).

ALEC BASHES KIM IN THE MEDIAL ALL THE TIME. I'VE NEVER HEARD HER SPEAK BADLY ABOUT HIM....AGAIN WHY ARE YOU MAKING THIS OUT TO BE AN ALIENATION ISSUE???? YES, IF HE DIDN'T HAVE A HISTORY OF VERBALLY BASHING HIS DAUGHTER IN PUBLIC AND PHONE MESSAGES...YES...I CAN SEE YOUR POINT...BUT HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT WHEN IT'S SO EVIDENT THIS GUY HAS SERIOUS ANGER MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL ISSUES? WTF??? ...AND NO...I DON'T THINK A CHILD SHOULD BE FORCED TO SEE A PARENT WHO ABUSES THEM TO THE POINT THAT THEY ARE TERRIFIED...I'M SORRY. IF THE JUDGE RULED AGAINST BALDWIN..IT'S HIS OWN DOING...AND THE DAUGHTER WILL WIND UP LESS SCARRED IN THE FUTURE THAN SHE WOULD IF SHE HAS TO CONTINUE BEING SCREAMED AT, PUT DOWN AND VERBALLY ABUSED BY HER FATHER. AND I'M SORRY, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE FOR ONE MINUTE THAT ONE PARENT CAN TURN A CHILD AGAINST THE OTHER PARENT IF THEY HAVE A LOVING RELATIONSHIP...THERE HAS TO BE SOME PROBLEM THERE TO BEGIN WITH. IF YOUR BUDDY'S CHILDREN DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER, PERHAPS SHE NEEDS TO TAKE A GOOD LONG LOOK AT WHY THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HER AND DO SOME SOUL SEARCHING TO SEE IF MAYBE SHE DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT RATHER THAN BLAMING HER EX! WHY DOES EVERYONE ALWAYS PLACE THE BLAME WITH THE EX???? PEOPLE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS!

Posted at 1:53PM on May 5th 2007 by HaHaHaHa

79. Don't have to worry about "preposterous suggestions" by Kim, Alec was the one who left the hysterical, abusive message for his daughter, but meant for Kim. No suggestion there. Don't have to worry about Kim putting in Irland's head to be afraid of Alec, he did that himself..."just wait until I get there, you selfish little pig." Don't have to worry about Kim teaching Ireland to take sides between the two, Alec's behavior has pushed her to find security in her mom. Don't have to worry about Kim teaching Alec's flaws, he did that himself with the rants, rages and threats. Lastly, if I had a parent that screamed and threatened me, naturally, I too, would pretend he/she didn't exist. Alec and all the rest of you abusive parents can scream "parental alienation or father's right" , the fact is you're insecure, hard to love and self-controlling. If you treated your castle with love and respect instead of bullying or even a drunken druged bully, you wouldn't be in courts DEMANDING someone love you and DEMANDING someone be with you.

Posted at 2:12PM on May 5th 2007 by cry baby

80. to #69 yes i understand that and agree with that. But i am not sure if this is that type of case. and #70 I am not saying that what alec said was ok, because it is not. I personaly have never spoken to my little girl like that nor would i ever, but my ex wife has, in fact she has spoken to our little girl much worse, and it's almost on a daily basis, i have it all on tape, and you know what! the judge, the court did nothing. But you can be sure that if i had spoken to my little girl the way her mother did and always does, i would have been punished by the court. This is what I am talking about. What is good for the father better be good for the mother as well, no exceptions. This is what I will be pushing for in Washington.

Posted at 3:50PM on May 5th 2007 by me

81. hey #74, i said i am a pro ath. not to throw weight around, it was ment to let you know that i know both alec and kim to an extent. If alec was abusing, hurting, mistreating his child in any way what so ever, then you would be right. but how do you know if that is the case. You do not know as I do not know. the fact is the judge had asked kim years ago if alec was bad to the little girl, her response was he was not bad for her. so what is the problem. Buy the way just 8 months ago i was awarded father of the year award from the chamber of com on long island new york. so no, i am not a scorned father, not at all. the person who is scorned is my ex wife, why because she found out last week that the judge is about to award me full custody come june

Posted at 4:02PM on May 5th 2007 by me

82. it took me about one hundred thousand dollars before the court found what kind of women my ex was. but befor that she could do no wrong. I thank god i had that king of money for the court battle. what would of happened if i did not. i'll tell you, my little would have been with that women until she was old enough to leave by herself, and by that time the damage would have been done.

Posted at 4:19PM on May 5th 2007 by me

83. She vewy scarewy lady.

Posted at 4:15PM on May 5th 2007 by Sean of Hollywood

84. #82 - Congratulations on being named Father of the Year. Now how about enrolling in a grammar and spelling class? PLEASE!

Posted at 4:27PM on May 5th 2007 by Stupid is not pretty

85. I hope they work it out for the child's sake but Alec needs to check his temper with his daughter for real because remember if a father says something harsh like that to a child he's on his way to being a serial killer or something to the effect!
I would just love to hear some the stuff you folks say to your own kids or better yet WILL SAY when you have kids! Just wait, your time will come." HYPOCRITS ALL..."

Posted at 4:44PM on May 5th 2007 by justafu

86. I'm looking forward to Alec's book showing up at DOLLAR TREE!!!

Posted at 5:56PM on May 5th 2007 by BLA

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Posted at 2:00AM on May 5th 2007 by jzenman_23

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You are nothing but a disgusting hedonist. Yes, you had better get all you can get on this earth right now because this is all you're getting. It's too bad that this is your reward and you aren't even enjoying what you have.

What a sick, pathetic post from one of the unhappiest people alive.

Poor thing. I wonder how it feels to know that when you die, you have a first-class ticket straight to HELL!

Posted at 6:42PM on May 5th 2007 by Frodo

88. I'd be surprised if the judge ruled anything less than:1) supervised visitation, 2) mandatory anger management classes ... both for a 12-month duration (for him) and 3) some kind of counseling for the child l.. then return to court for a re-evaluation at the end of 12 months. Let's stop kdding ourselves, movie/tv star or not, this guy is a child abuser, verbal abuse is every bit as bad as physical child abuse, and has the same long lasting effects on the child. He may love his child in his own warped way, but he is hands-down a child abuser, his battles with his ex-wife notwithstanding, and regardless of whether or not that VMM should/should not have been leaked. Thank goodness it was, that poor kid otherwise. Now she may have a chance.

Posted at 6:58PM on May 5th 2007 by Shani

89. To HaHaHaHa on comment #78.

I'm not the one making it out to be an alienation issue, Alec Baldwin himself said that was what was going on. I was simply commenting on what parental alienation looked like.

If you read the end of my post I said that I wasn't convinced either way. The ONLY people who know what is truly going on with their relationship are Alex and Kim. I do agree that Alec Baldwin has a temper issue but that doesn't mean he's a horrible father. Even so, I would never talk to my daughter like that. Basically it's not fair to judge someone unless you've walked in their shoes.

Posted at 9:51PM on May 5th 2007 by N Smith

90. Take good care of your little girl, Kim. Give her good morals and a good education. You don't want her growing up like Paris Hilton. Well, she won't because she has you. And, you are not a sleezy, arrogant nitwit like Kathy Hilton - and like you, Alec. Good luck to you Kim and Ireland.

Posted at 8:43PM on May 5th 2007 by Jerry