Donda West -- Big Trouble on the Table?

61. Indeed this is a sad story. I just don't understand how a woman of such intelligence would actually go through with this procedure even after she was warned that it was too risky. Thats what Hollywood does to you - make you believe that you need to look a certain way. Regardless - my condolences go out to the West family.

Posted at 11:10AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Will's Boo

62. I am a critical care Nurse Practitioner and I've also had cosmetic surgery, so I have some input into this whole matter. First of all, I had a minor rhinoplasty which was minimally invasive. I'm in my 30s and even for such a simple procedure my boards certified surgeon made sure I had proper tests done in order to clear me for the 1.5 hour surgery. Being an educated person I also did my own research before deciding on my surgeon. Why Donda West didn't do even the most basic research just boggles my mind. Maybe because she based her decision upon this man's charm or the fact that he hosted a show and has been a Oprah. In any case it's not very smart.

Eight freakin' hours on the OR table is a long time for even a healthy person! Being under anesthesia for so many hours can seriously compromise one's cardiovascular system, not to mention other functions. Just by looking at Donda West's pictures I can guess that this is woman with Type II Diabetes and Diabetic related circulatory issues. Sending this woman home after 8 hours of surgery on the same day is just so irresponsible. I'm astounded that neither Donda or her post-surgical caretakers questioned this plan beforehand, and I am even more astounded that this surgeon and his staff discharged her home.

I think we shouldn't drag vanity into this tragedy. Donda didn't die because of vanity, she died due to various factors which could have been preventable. Cosmetic procedures serve many purposes and undergoing them should be personal choices. But those personal choices must be balanced out by realistic expectations and safety concersn. If you choose to have procedures done to make you feel better, fine, but learn to love yourself first and then do your research!

Posted at 11:07AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Sakura

63. When he operated on Joan Rivers, he made the incision in a oval pattern around her face and put his foot on the back of her head and pulled as hard as he could. That's gotta hurt.



Regards

Posted at 11:01AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Jimbo

64. Jzz #43,

Obviously you sacrificed your education for your spouse's?!

Posted at 11:01AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Just sayin'

65. Kayne is egotisic and his big mouth came full circle. Don't go around in life thinking your above everyone. It's sad of her death but it was preventable. Maybe now he will shut his big mouth up.

Posted at 11:03AM on Nov 13th 2007 by MJ

66. First of all, for all of the posters who are in some way blaming Dr. West for her death ....get off your soap box. Everyone in life takes risk everyday. For example, there is a risk that you could die in a car accident today, but that doesn't keep people from driving. It doesn't matter if she died getting surgery or if she died some other way. The point is a man has lost his mother, the only mother he'll have in life, and regardless if you like him or not, some sort of compassion should be given. What kind of sick individual finds solace in someone else's misfortune; it says a lot more about you more that any of the despicable things you could say about Kanye or his mother. I have friends who have lost parents that they were close too, and I wouldn't wish pain like that on my worst enemy. You people need to really get some psychiatric help because you are obviously trouble individual, who don't have loving relationships with your parents or you would understand his grief. I can only pray for you individuals as well as Kanye and his family and hope that you all find the peace and solace that is needed to make your lives better.

Posted at 11:03AM on Nov 13th 2007 by College Grad

67. wtf? people spend more time researching their car purchases than their surgeons. this is a big word to anyone contemplating surgery of any kind..

Posted at 11:38AM on Nov 13th 2007 by mojo

68. That's not true. I work in a plastic surgeon's office and a breast reduction and tummy tuck take about 6 hours and if there was liposuction involved, as well, as with most tummy tuck procedures, then it is about 7 hours.

However, we NEVER send our patients home after a tummy tuck. They all spend the night at the hosptial for observation.

Posted at 3:02PM on Nov 13th 2007 by Gypsy

69. We need to be careful about accusing someone based on these facts. Surgery's can routinely take a lot longer than expected. I had a breast reduction in 1997. The doctor said it would be about 2.5 hours. It ended up being over 5. Sometimes, you get in there and things aren't what you thought and you have to take more time.

These things happen. It's sad, and the woman didn't deserve to die, but she knew the risks going in.

Posted at 11:08AM on Nov 13th 2007 by kerstin

70. PLEASE LET'S ALL PRAY FOR KANYE...HE JUST LOST HIS MOTHER!

Posted at 2:09PM on Nov 13th 2007 by Suzan

71. I feel sorry for her. Please some people who are idiots stop judging this woman who wroked hard her whole life. Do you know how hard it is to be a professor at a college? She was a bright woman, who seemed to be a good mother. God forbid, she wanted to feel good about herself. Sounds like she had issues with her weight, and excess skin, and wanted a recution, and tummy-tuck. She wanted to improve what God gave her, not get rid of it. I guess we should all stop wearing make-up, and dying our haire, and getting dentures, vaneers, or wearing contacts because its not natural, and God will send us to Hell. How damn stupid to think this way. God looks at a persons heart, and soul.

Although I feel sorry for her, she should have checked his credentials, that is our responsibility for ourself. Maybe she was caught up in this mans reputation, him being on Oprah, and working in a wealthy area, she assumed he was, or maybe didnt even know she should have checked him out. If a doctor is not board certified, you have to ask why. Any good , confident doctor would take this test . One that doesnt want to take it, isnt confident he will pass- plain and simple. So, I would run far, far, away from any doctor who isnt.

This woman had previous heart issues, and was 59 years old, and had mutiple surgeries on the same day. She should have been in the hospital overnight to be monitored.

Posted at 11:11AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Jzz

72. This is an outrageous and tragic needless death. Why was this guy allowed to be a TV spokesperson posing as a legitimate plastic surgeon? Perhaps the station is partly responsible? And why wouldn't this woman with all that money at her disposal be foolish enough to ignore the advice of a certified surgeon who instructed her to get particular medical clearance before he would do surgery on her and, instead, let this shyster touch her? Did she know he was not Board certified? I'm not an advocate of cosmetic surgery, but no one deserves to die for someone's arrogant, criminal behavior. This butcher should be in jail.

Posted at 11:19AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Reader

73. Dr. West didn't do enough research on her doctor; she had previously been told not to do the surgery because of a potential heart problem;she didn't insist on a recovery center after having a major operation...All of these things were HER responsibility, and any sane, normal person would have the sense to check on these things before a surgery. Yes, we have all been subject to people or experiences that didn't quite pan out as we had hoped, but for something this major - you need to know the facts. So what if he was on Oprah, so what if he had a show on Discovery - he obviously looks at his profession as a cash-cow, not a way to better someone's appearance. HIs personal life has nothing to do with his profession - but his reputation as a physician was certainly called out before this tragedy, and a little work by Kanye and his mother may have prevented such a tragedy from occuring. For someone so educated, Dr. West should have known better than to just go home, you can't completely blame the doctor for that one. Medical boards should really start looking more closely at the plastic surgery industry, and the doctors that are just in it for the glory - if you can't pass the medical boards - you shouldn't be allowed to practice any kind of medicine - it's a flaw in the system, and I wonder how many more people will have to die from unneccessary, or even necessary, but "just not performed properly" surgeries. There is no such thing as a simple procedure, especially when anesthetics are involved - I've never had a surgery, and even I know that...

Posted at 11:17AM on Nov 13th 2007 by JC

74. kitty & just curious - THANK YOU....

It's so funny when people on here are so busy trying to knock someone else, they make themselves look just as dumb.

Anywho - this is a 50/50 blame situation, they are BOTH at fault, after the first doctor said no to SAVE HER LIFE it should have been a call to weight watchers or bob green and a trip to a bra fitting specialist. or a nice soul searching sabbatical to re-think priorities.

I would take being chunky at 58 with a successful child & a prominent career of my own over being outwardly appeasing ANY DAY.

Posted at 11:24AM on Nov 13th 2007 by chicago's wonder.woman

75. My thoughts and my prayers are with Kanye West and his family at this time of their grief and sorrow. However, I cannot believe and refuse to accept the allegation that Dr. Jan Adams is not Board certified. I went to the Medical Board of California's website but it is currently down. Unless I see it myself, from a reputable source, I won't believe this allegation.

Posted at 11:23AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Dimplezzz