Donda West -- Big Trouble on the Table?

76. TO #3 AND #4....FRIGGN IDIOTS. YOU WILL FACE THE LORD AND HE WILL GIVE YOU DIRECTIONS TO HELL. GOD BLESS THE WEST FAMILY AND FRIENDS. KANYE IS HOT! STAY STRONG.

Posted at 11:25AM on Nov 13th 2007 by 3 RIGHTS MAKE A LEFT

77. I hope they take his license, and that still wont bring her back!
http://www.spymac.com/details/?2295305

Posted at 9:06AM on Nov 15th 2007 by Robin

78. Thank you for your compassion. I think all patients should be kept over night or sent to a recovery center for at least one day. but that is not how it is now. I think it has a lot to do with insurance. I have had 2 ruptured discs removed from my lower back, plus two knee replacements. a roto cuff repair and that crumpled bone. I was sent to a rehab center after the knee replacements for therapy.. But nothing else. This coming Dec 4th I have to have surgery again. Another roto cuff surgery on the other shoulder.. Luckily I have a good dr who has done all of these surgeries and will do this one too. But I will go home the same day and have good friends and children with me. It is not the dr. It is the hospital and insurance co who will not let you stay. I am so sorry for this woman. But when your health goes you do have to be careful what you do. Mine has to be done. But my health is excellant because I took good care of it and will be fine. I would like to look like some of these movie stars too, but not when I am 80 and still kicking with a full life. I am very thank ful for my blessings in liife and thank GOD, for them. They replace any thing false that I could ever get. .

Posted at 11:26AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Eleanor

79. NOT board certified??!! How could this intelligent woman have made such a tragic error? Why, considering his history, was this Dr. still licensed at all?
Sad sad sad

Posted at 11:27AM on Nov 13th 2007 by kendra

80. Check out some of the horror stories about the doc on this board:

http://www.ienhance.com/forum/forum_message.asp?TopicID=691

Posted at 11:29AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Steve

81. Thank you SAKURA. I thought that was odd to. If I was Kanye I would be investing some serious change to investigate the hell out of this dude and sue his ass into oblivion if I found out you had my Mama on a table for 8 hrs and killed. Sakura your post was the most honest without being offensive so I appreciate that. My mother has Diabetes. It's pretty much hereditary in African Americans. Much like Osteoporosis is more prevalent in Asian and Caucasian women. (At least that is what I've read.) In essence, she really didn't have no business opting for elective plastic surgery anyway if that is the case. And I'd be damned pissed if a doctor...or a man passing himself off as a doctor, didn't let my mother know the even more prevalent dangers ahead of time. Of course there are some risks with surgerys, but if you have a preexisting conditions such has diabetes...and probably High Blood Pressure too right Sakura? Hell, another condition African Americans have a higher rate of. Man...I'm so angry right now. Maybe because I'm thinking about my mother. I can't believe I defended this man. Mostly because I too watch Oprah, use his products and see his show. Damn...I think Plastic Surgery needs a serious overhaul.

Posted at 11:29AM on Nov 13th 2007 by JaimeNTexas

82. #63 It is the doctors responsibility to say NO!!, and not do the surgery. This is to take precedent over everything. Had this man been board certified, and ethical, he may have told her no surgery.

I can sympathize with Ms.West, because she probably wanted it so bad, she wasnt thinking anything could possible happen to her. You shoule always get two opinion before having any surgery, and she did. One said no, and the other siad yes, and because she wanted it so bad, she chose to go ahead. Her decision really doesnt matter, she is not a doctor. This was his call. If a 13 year old comes in, and wants surgery, its up to the doctor to say NO! You are too young for lets say a boob-job. Many people think with their emotions at times, even though they are normally intelligent about other things.

Posted at 11:29AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Jzz

83. Well I guess it's high time the Discovery Channel find a new host for their plastic surgery show, a host that knows what the **** he is talking about.

Posted at 11:31AM on Nov 13th 2007 by A Kanye Fan

84. Not board certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery? That should have been a red flag to Ms. West. This information, combined with another doctor saying he wouldn't perform the surgery makes this incident a result of both medical and CONSUMER error.

Posted at 11:47AM on Nov 13th 2007 by cappy

85. I hate to say this....but Kanye's mother brought this on hereself. She was a highly educated woman and inexplicably didn't check this guy out. Medical experts always warn you to check a physician's background before considering plastic surgery. Too, she had already been warned about potential heart complications from another physician. It's shocking that she wasn't more cautious before proceeding.

Posted at 11:32AM on Nov 13th 2007 by TMZ reader

86. If anyone says negative about this should pray for help. Much respect to Kanye at his time of morning! I seen never let a surgeon not certified perform surgery on you. This is why I will love myself the way I am. If you don;t need surgery don't do it! I hope Kanye gets through this and I will ray for him!

Posted at 1:47PM on Nov 13th 2007 by Kandi

87. There's a big difference between minor and major cosmetic procedures. In minor ones such as limited rhinoplasty, the patient is under local anesthesia and is not intubated, meaning the patient breathes on his/ her own. In Donda's case, she was under general anesthesia and in conjunction was intubated. Being under general anesthesia is riskier and that's why I think it was irresponsible for the surgeon and his staff to discharge her home. Although staying overnight and being monitored at a recovery facility wouldn't have necessarily prevented further complications from happening, it would have assured prompt treatments. In other words Kanye and his family would not have to deal with grieving and the devastating thoughts of 'What If?'.

Posted at 11:37AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Sakura

88. As a former O.R. nurse it has always caused me to wonder where are the regulations when it comes to "outpatient" procedures. Some are appropriate to send home and some are not. Since these surgeries are not driven by insurance payment then an overnight stay is appropriate in those where it would be safest for the patient. The office surgical suite is another thing that gives me the chills. Knowing how fast a surgical patient can get into trouble these offices are not equipped with what it takes to get a patient out of trouble. The down time to get a patient to the nearest hospital can be fatal. Deadly post op complications are fairly uncommon, however anesthesia for eight hours is one reason to put the patient in the hospital for the procedure. There the patient will receive appropriate pre screening, health history and pre op testing as ordered by the anesthesiologist. These simple things go a long way in insuring a good outcome.

Posted at 11:39AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Rockwater

89. 75. I hate to say this....but Kanye's mother brought this on hereself. She was a highly educated woman and inexplicably didn't check this guy out. Medical experts always warn you to check a physician's background before considering plastic surgery. Too, she had already been warned about potential heart complications from another physician. It's shocking that she wasn't more cautious before proceeding.

Posted at 11:32AM on Nov 13th 2007 by TMZ reader

No I think a lot of women have made the same mistake of using a doctor because he was highly recommended and lauded with TV Show Appearances. I myself have been using his facial products for years. Since I was 16 as a matter of fact. (I won't say how old I am now LOL) In the African American Community this man was highly recommended. He should have been the flippin Physician and flat out denied to operate on her like the other doctor did if that was true. I didn't think about the Diabetes take, and elective surgery for diabetics is like a no no. If it ain't necessary to save your life, you dont' need to get it. God I hope Kanye finds the truth. I think he well once he hears all the speculating going on. I know I sure as hell would. Then I'd crush Dr Jan Adams with my Bank Account if I was Kanye.

Posted at 11:44AM on Nov 13th 2007 by JaimeNTexas

90. My heart goes out to Kanye because I know what it's like to loose the only one you thought you had left in the world. Common sense should have told The doctor to look into her medical history before performing such a proceedure. Now I hate to say this but being told "you may go into cardiac arrest due to anestesia" would have made me take a moment to do my home work ( trust, I am no doctor). I still do feel as though her death could have been avoided had the proper precaustions been taken!!!!! Blame Can't be put on the victim in this situation because had the doctor done the right thing... HIS JOB!!! this could have been avoided.

Posted at 11:54AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Baby Girl beantown