Ike Turner's Last Moments Revealed -- Continued

31. I remember when Ike was in that movie "What's Love Got to Do With It" and you was right, whoever posted that insightful comment regarding women musicians during the 60's. Every day when my husband slaps me I know that I'm in good company, and what's more, he's a real man. And who's Karma? Somebody oughta slap that bitch around as well. While they're at it. But I'm a woman, my opinions are irrelevant and null for the most part.

It's so great that Ike was almost productive after the 60's. If he had just a few more years, he could have really brought it. And showed all those stuck-up women who don't think they should get slapped around a thing or two. I mean, he was just probably on drugs when he raped Tina and burned her with cigarettes. How hard is it to sing Nutbush? come on! You're a diva 60's singer! Tina, if you're reading this, it's "A church house, gin house/school house outhouse!" That was genius songwriting, to boot. He could have found somebody else to sing it, too. Gladys would have done it. And with no lip. She would have looked better on the velvet painting in the house studio too.

So good for you all who loved him and housed him and encouraged him to grow within himself. Thank you, though for not encouraging him to get remarried. She wouldn't have gotten him. A book? A movie? There was really just too much to do.

See you in heaven, Ike. (If you're not really dead, I live in Atlanta, and I'll leave my husband. I'll be at the Apache cafe every Tuesday waiting with some cake we can share. I'll eat it, don't worry.)

Posted at 10:55AM on Dec 16th 2007 by boots

32. "I would have eventually set him up financially out of respect, thanks and forgiveness when all of the dust settled and clarity was reached because it would give me peace of mind and to me would be more of a right thing to do."

Yeah, that's what you do to an abuser. You return and pay him off. There's no excuse for beating your wife. Don't try to rationalize it #4. He made enough money off of Tina when they were together. She sang w/ him, she bore his children and she took plenty of beatings. I'd call that square. She owes the nothing to Ike.

Posted at 10:09PM on Dec 15th 2007 by Lori

33. #31: But I'm a woman, my opinions are irrelevant and null for the most part.

Thats the spririt of an abused woman. GOOD WORK. Maybe Ike should have married you instead.

I can't BEEEELIVE the sympathy given to this wife beater.

Posted at 10:11PM on Dec 15th 2007 by Lori

34. to Lori@10:09PM - It's your right to feel that way. Of course Tina was more than square, simply by feeling that she was. I said that I might probably bring it full circle had it been me. I lived it, and treated my offender likewise, and he cried and we had the most incredible relationship the last ten years before he died, not romantic. Forgiveness can be more powerful than estrangement, but the offended usually pursues it, as the offender is usually too hurt to do it, which is why they behave that way in the first place. Had I been served up more abuse at that point, I would have disappeared and called it a day. It is not for everyone, but it sure wipes away the bitterness, hurt and past issues when it works, and for both parties. Nothing is being rationalized here. It's just an approach that is an option, but is not for everyone, and that's for certain.

Posted at 11:13PM on Dec 15th 2007 by R.I.P., Ike Turner

35. "Men that abuse and humiliate women need to stop or just die. AND women who choose to stay with such men and put these abusive jerks before the well-being of the children should just do the same!" ... "should just do the same". You were wise enough to leave, but you can't hold strangers to that standard, which you did do ... "flip-flop" all you want.

I can see you're literate, and probably not dumb, but not everyone is so lucky. Some women are simply too dumb to leave. Some women are also very financially dependent on their men, and don't want to subject their children to whatever new unknown horrors they could encounter in a shelter. The possibilities are endless. Not all situations are the same.

Ike Turner abused his wife back when it was not only accepted to beat your wife, but your children as well. Are you also going to condem any parent who used objects to hit their children back then? Those were the times. Mix that with icky drugs and you get a young Ike Turner. I've read of no recent Ike Turner domestic abuse charges. Maybe he was sorry for what he did. Did you know him? Your whole rant about abusers needing to die, in response to Ike dying, was off topic and the result of bitterness. I'm not trying to demean you by saying that, but sometimes we don't realize certain things until they're pointed out to us. Hopefully you can recognize it, fix it, and find peace.

Posted at 11:27PM on Dec 15th 2007 by FIGHT

36. Yes,Tina did love this "man" at one point, but after a while when the beatings and the verbal abuse keep going on, it doesn't matter WHAT kind of happy memories you once had, any happiness felt is long gone. I know bcause I went through the same thing for almost the same length of time and I would trade any happy memory I had of this relationship just to get back my physical health from all the beatings I took, and my psychological health for all the verbal abuse. I am not sorry the man is dead, just wondering what took him so long with all his drug history. Ike was old when he died and proof that only the GOOD die young. May Tina have a blessed and peaceful life knowing she is finally, ultimatlely free of this cancer in her life!

Posted at 12:06AM on Dec 16th 2007 by Butterfly

37. OK, GEEZ.... I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVE TO ACTUALLY RESTATE WHAT I SAID AGAIN! THIS WAS MY POINT:
Abusers need to STOP or just die. They are tearing up society! Forgiveness can be granted if an abuser admits and repents. BUT IF THEY REFUSE, THEY SHOULD JUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REALLY, WHAT GOOD ARE THEY TO PEOPLE IF THEY ABUSE OTHERS? SERIOUSLY? They are better off dead, in my true, honest opinion! STOP, GET HELP, OR DIE! How hard is that? I mean, who wants an abusive person around anyways?
I was abused by a step mother growing up. I married an abusive man when I was 18. Popped out three kids because I didn't understand that I could get away. My idential twin sister is being abused right now and I can't get her out of the marriage. The man is still tormenting her! He tapes her calls, watches her on video when he's supposed to be working! He kept her away from me for 15 years! Just last week, I was able to see my sister for the first time for our birthday. Her husband would not let us have one minute alone. He was possessive and jealous that I was even there!
Anywys, that's why I'm so bitter about abusive people. Maybe I'll change my opinion eventually. But I don't see that happening anytime soon. By the way, this abusive husband of my sister's totally screwed up her son (from a previous marriage). The boy is into drugs and sex and he's only 15! He doesn't even come home at night!!!!!!!! I hate people who abuse and I always will. I, like Tina, found a way out and I'm so glad I did!

Posted at 2:10AM on Dec 16th 2007 by Jewels

38. Either OJ did it or that bitch no talent ex-wife was involed

Posted at 8:51AM on Dec 16th 2007 by CrabbyPantz

39. So sorry about your sister, Jewels. All abused people need to grow some gonads, because you teach people how to treat you.
When you give abusers an inch, they take five miles, and pretty soon you're down at the bottom of their covered well looking up for a bit of sunlight wondering how you got there. It's usually trusting people with few issues who find themselves in that well, while the abuser controls and plays out unresolved issues from their past. The person in that well has to find something in themselves to start drawing boundaries, saying NO!, re-drawing the lines, demanding respect, or leaving. Some relationships can be redesigned if the abuser also loves and sees the light. Most abusers are usually bigger cowards when the rubber hits the road, and can be motivated towards a better life if they love the other person. You leave the ones that can't in the dust. You get help to do either from a great therapist, as abused people AND abusersare so bent they are no longer objective. Good luck helping your sister.

Posted at 12:12PM on Dec 16th 2007 by Sage

40. Ike. Your personal life was your life and your musical life was everybody's life. I don't know about your place in rock and roll but as a musican you were at the top. All I care about is your music because I have enough trouble keeping my own life in check to talk about your life. But. Man you understood how things go: The nit pickers and low lifers are coming out of the wood works, lying to get their moment of fame. RIP man. RIP.

Posted at 7:09AM on Dec 17th 2007 by Nathaniel Scott

41. What strikes me most is that Ike's obituary will always mention Tina. When Tina passes, she will stand on her own. The name Ike will not be needed.

Posted at 8:32PM on Dec 16th 2007 by Nina

42. Everyone LOVES to talk smack about Ike, everyone. What you might not know is that John Lennon beat his first wife, cheated on his second, pretty much disowned his first son, yet he is held up like a God.

I guess you have to have a crappy biopic made about your life first eh? You guys are as shallow as a kiddie pool.

Posted at 8:54PM on Dec 16th 2007 by judging

43. You know what's funny alot of you that have posted your little comments are to young to know anything about ike & tina other than what you have read or what the media has told you. Back in the days it was hard for anyone "black" in that industry to get work let alone in the music field. Ike did what he had to do back then you had to eat where you could, sleep when and where could, and tina was not a sure delight back then wanting to go home all the time when this man was out there trying to make it not just for himself but for all of them in his band. As far as the beatings i don't know about that i was not there to see that and i'am pretty sure alout of you wern't either if you did see it you had very little to say back in thoes days you turn your head and looked the other away. I have to give that man credit for what he had to put up with to make it back in thoes days. That man open many doors for alot of groups all over this country. Thank you ike for what you have brought to the music industry and the world with great music. He has played all over the world in front of kings and queens and to this day is still loved by many. I feel for the family in this time of need but in the same token tina could have left ike but " whats love got to do with it " Ike helped her to where she is today. To Tina hang in there baby remember sleeping in that dirty old bus and thoes roach infeasted motels and that smelling old barn. LOL RIP ike you will be missed in many ways.

Posted at 10:12PM on Dec 16th 2007 by chris

44. Ike Youre music was very good. but what you have done to tina is this what you deserved, I hope you go to hell! BUSTARD!
Who cares? Tina still alive!!! :D

Posted at 11:47AM on Dec 17th 2007 by jacques-bral