Court to Brit's Daddy: Stick Around Pop!

61. Kudos to Jamie. Now he can keep the blood suckers away. Brit needs a pit bull Dad in her life to slap some sense into her and guard her estate and keep her in line. I just hope she see the benefit in the long run. Now the tabloids can find something more interesting to report over following her around everyday hoping for a tragedy to happen.

Posted at 10:52PM on Mar 5th 2008 by WakeUpCall

62. The entry of the order today suggests to me that Britney waived her right to a hearing. That is, at this time she is not contesting the conservatorship. She probably isn't happy about it, but I suspect that her doctors and attorneys had advised her that she would be fighting a losing battle at this point. Better to focus on her treatment plan and then file a motion in a few months requesting the court to relax the conditions and maybe end the conservatorship early. Thus, today the court could go ahead and, on the basis of the doctors' reports and the investigator's report, make a finding that Britney meets the conditions for establishing a permament conservatorship.

Posted at 10:09PM on Mar 5th 2008 by lawdawg

Lawdawg...if one accepts that Brit is incapable of making proper legal decisions, then that should of course include her ability to make the choice to waive her right to a hearing. If she is incapable of speaking with lawyers, then of course, that should include the ones you refer to giving her advice above. If she is incapable of speaking with lawyers, then she is also incapable of making a decision of this gravity and nature on her own. If you are a lawyer, you should know that?? I'm a lawyer and I certainly know it.

As you would know, if the Commissioner had allowed her her rights, she would have had representation, had an opportunity to meet with a psych of her choosing for the purpose of obtaining her own report and calling him/her as a witness. At the moment, the Court is basing it's decisions, on unchallenged evidence, and not allowing the person who has their rights affected to even get advice or have a lawyer appear on their behalf. That happens in lots of countries, but not in most common law western countries. Again if you are a lawyer, you should know all that, and you should also know about "Natural justice" which says anyone who's rights, interests etc are to be affected by a decision of the court, has a right to be heard, present, and challenge evidence in relation to those decisions.

If she can drive a car, she can talk to a lawyer. Any real lawyer can see that this is a bunch of b.s. and nothing like the case you are citing, unless of course what you are referring to are possible remedies for Brit should her father mismanage her own finances (like he did his own).

Are you sure you are a lawyer lawdawg?...you could have fooled me.

Posted at 10:56PM on Mar 5th 2008 by A real lawyer, not like lawdawg

63. Oooops, britaculous, I completely forgot to answer your questions about how this will affect the custody case. For the immediately future, it shouldn't. The visitation agreement that was worked out will continue until the April hearing. Since Britney is under a conservatorship, the family court is not going to restore her right to legal custody (the right to make decisions about the kids) or physical custody (the right for the kids to live with her part-time or full time). I imagine the court will give custody to K-fed. Custody, visitation and child support are always open to modification until the kids turn 18, so Britney can request the court to revisit these when she is able to provide medical evidence that she is capable of handling more. Unfortunately, once the kids have been in the custody of one parent for a long period of time, the courts become more reluctant to upset the arrangement, so K-Fed will have an advantage for a while. However, unless Britney is totally unfit, there court will never terminate her right to have some contact with her children, even if (as recently) it is by phone and e-mail. I think supervised visitation is going to be a condition for quite a while -- six months to a year at least. Maybe some overnights will be granted in a few months, again with the condition that her father and maybe a court monitor are also present in the house, I doubt she will have the right to drive with the kids.

Posted at 10:58PM on Mar 5th 2008 by lawdawg

64. July 31st! Ha ha! You know Britney is hating it! I for one am happy. I think if it were over now she would return to her old habits. Keep up the good job Jamie!!

Posted at 11:05PM on Mar 5th 2008 by Jenna

65. Posted at 10:56PM on Mar 5th 2008 by A real lawyer, not like lawdawg


Errrrrrr.... the court DID appoint her a lawyer to preserve her rights as he found she was unable to retain one of her own. Sam Ingham III... So she does have the right to speak with a lawyer. If she didn't how would she be abel to defend herself against a wrongful conservatorship case, if that were the case.
Note also that lawyers for her conservator addressed that she was offered, and rejected, the opportunity to challenge this case. I assume they wouldnt lie about this...

Mr Lawyer, even as a law student I can make sense of what lawdawg says!

Posted at 11:03PM on Mar 5th 2008 by britaculous

66. #67...ARE YOU JON EARDLY????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted at 11:04PM on Mar 5th 2008 by Micheal Sands and Sam got KO\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

67. PATRICK S...HAS PANCREATIC CANCER NOW,,,THAT REALLY IS HORRIBLE!..TERMINAL IS ALWAYS THE OUTCOME.

Posted at 11:11PM on Mar 5th 2008 by jr

68. Posted at 10:58PM on Mar 5th 2008 by lawdawg

thanks! It's just that Kaplan has already hinted April looks like not possible - summer I think - and page6 (whoever knows about them) are hinting they are trying to work something more permanent out. Well. Good luck to her.


I forgot to address something your friend the "real" lawyer said:
"If she can drive a car, she can talk to a lawyer. Any real lawyer can see that this is a bunch of b.s. and nothing like the case you are citing, unless of course what you are referring to are possible remedies for Brit should her father mismanage her own finances (like he did his own)."

Not sure what the 3 things have in common. Daddy has the right to decide whether she can drive, The judge gave her a lawyer. And lawdawg made a link between the case being similar to Britney's as her parents have made similar allegations against certain party who has a restraining order against him and other I assume. I think he was implying that since the docs haven't given her a green light she is still as susceptible to undue influence as she was previously.

Posted at 11:12PM on Mar 5th 2008 by britaculous

69.
Hmmm - Still no answer to my question of:

A question for the Sam Lutfi supporters out there.

Why is it important to you to have contact re-established between Britney Spears and Sam Lutfi?

Are there any valid reasons?

Posted at 11:12PM on Mar 5th 2008 by DIANE T

70. all this and she is still pulling in over 700,000 a month! incredible!!

Posted at 11:16PM on Mar 5th 2008 by cyndy

71. To real lawyer: Yes, I am quite certain I am a lawyer. It says so on my diploma. And since you too are a lawyer, I suggest that you review In re Conservatorship of John L., 154 Cal.App.4th 1090 (Aug. 31, 2007), which addresses your points about the proopsed conservatee's ability to speak with appointed counsel and waive right to appear to contest the conservatorship. You might also be interested in In re Conservatorship of the Person and Estate of Katherine H.,, No. A115496 (not reported - available on Westlaw) (Cal.App. 1st Dist. July 5, 2007); In re Conservatorship of Tian L., 149 Cal.App.4th 1022 (Mar. 21, 2007); and In re Conservatorship of Person and Estate of William, No. B155023 (Cal.App. 2d Dist. Nov. 4, 2003). These also speak to the issues you raise.

Posted at 11:17PM on Mar 5th 2008 by lawdawg

72. I do not understand how she is well enough to teach children (strangers, and she is mentally ill!! and not licensed in any way to work with kids....) ok, teach kids at that studio, YET.......wow. She needs to have complete control over her life by her father, and it was ordered by the court. I feel so sorry for Britney. I just dont get it.

Posted at 11:26PM on Mar 5th 2008 by Linda

73. It takes a strong man to keep a crazy bitch down! HAHAH

Posted at 11:18PM on Mar 5th 2008 by kraftlikecheese

74.
O.K. I'll help you out.

Sam Lutfi and Britney Spears should be able to remain in contact because - ??

Posted at 11:25PM on Mar 5th 2008 by DIANE T

75. OK MAG.

On Wednesday, a court commissioner ruled to keep Jamie Spears on as conservator over the personal and business affars of his daughter, Britney Spears, through July 31.


TMZ is reporting the order is effectively a seal of approval for Poppa Spears, who has been co-conservator since Brit's latest breakdown.

Sources also say the conservators are open to ending the conservatorship earlier than July 31, if Britney's mental state sufficiently improves and stabilizes.

Under the conservatorship, Britney appears to be recovering significantly. She teaches regular dance classes to children at Millennium Dance Complex, has abandoned her wild and erratic night life and has won back visitation rights with her sons, Sean Preston and Jayden James.

Today's news is probably not going over well with Britney's former confidante, Sam Lutfi, who after being served with a restraining order two weeks ago by the conservators, has vowed publically to "fight to the end" to overturn the order and regain his friendship with the pop singer.

With all of the positive energy surrounding Britney right now, it's hard not to think that Sam's absence might be a good thing after all.

And, by the looks of things, the court seems to agree.

Posted at 11:27PM on Mar 5th 2008 by britaculous