"Lost" Diary -- Ji Yeon

LostAfter this episode, we only have one more left until we go on Writers Strike hiatus. It's been a good run so far and I will be curious to see how the writers adjust after the hiatus. Here's a suggestion: Answer some questions. Just a thought.

For all you "Lost" Diary newbies, here's how it goes: I gather with a group of friends watching "Lost," writing what happens on the show as it happens, and throwing in my two cents along the way. Ari and Lauren are with me tonight -- and it's Ari's birthday! What will the producers of "Lost" get him? Let's roll ...

9:02 -- Lawnmower Man brings Desmond and Sayid lima beans to eat. Yet another reason why it's better to be on the island.

9:03 -- Has anyone ever learned English faster than Jin?

9:05 -- Time again for my favorite game -- flashback or flashforward? Sun is preggers galore -- so it has to be a flashforward.

9:09 -- Jin is toy shopping, presumably in the future, so it looks like maybe he gets off the island too. That makes six, as in Oceanic 6 -- so I guess Aaron doesn't count.

9:10 -- Kate is trying to explain what went on with Faraday and Charlotte. I hate when people on this show explain things to other people on the show. Can't we just skip all that?

9:12 -- A cryptic note was just passed through the door -- things are getting good.

9:13 -- DON'T TRUST THE CAPTAIN.

9:14 -- Jin and Jack are talking English over breakfast and I am bored.

9:15 -- Sun wants to head off to Locke's camp. Maybe things will finally get good.

9:19 -- "I know that I have been less than truthful about certain things ..." -- Juliet. I'll take "Understatements" for $200 please, Alex.

9:20 -- Any doubt about flashforward or flashback has been removed as Sun was ID'd by a nurse as an Oceanic 6. This whole pregnancy thing is so boring, the only thing than can spice this up is if the kid comes out black.

9:22 -- Jin trying to make his way to the hospital is getting silly. Am I watching a Nora Ephron movie here?

9:23 -- "I need the panda." -- Jin. He can make anything sound menacing sometimes.

9:24 -- "Wherever Sun I go, I go." -- Jin

9:25 -- Juliet just told Jin that Sun had an affair and Sun slapped her. Lauren cheers.

9:29 -- Jin is about to go off on a fishing trip with Bernard and I am more excited about this proposition than I should be.

9:31 -- Time for Bernard to dispense some sage-like advice. Bring it on, my man.

9:32 -- How does Jin understand the concept of "karma"? Did that come up in Sun's lessons already?

9:33 -- How is catching a fish karma?

9:34 -- "The captain would like to see you now." -- creepy doctor guy.

9:35 -- The illiterate woman just jumped over the side of the boat with chains wrapped around her -- and no one seems to care except for Sayid and Desmond.

9:40 -- The captain opens up with "So what can I do for you?" Gee, let me think. How about starting with getting me off this damn boat and back to civilization?

9:41 -- Desmond just found out that they are on Charles Widmore's boat, and he took it in stride. Little strange.

9:42 -- The captain just gave a whole long spiel about the fake plane crash, the 324 bodies and Ben. This guy just gave more of an answer in 10 seconds than most people on this show so far.

9:43 -- Juliet is painting a pretty picture for Sun's future -- if she stays on the island.

9:44 -- Sun is still having her baby. Is there going to be something interesting about this? If all she does is have a baby I am going to be seriously let down.

9:45 -- For the record, Lauren thinks Asian babies are the cutest -- followed by black babies.

9:46 -- "Johnson, is that you?" -- The doc.

9:47 -- "Nice to meet you, Kevin" -- Sayid. Ok, "Lost" has had several "big reveals" this season and none of them have been actual surprises.

9:52 -- "I made dinner." -- Jin. He can really do no wrong in my book. Definitely the most underrated character on the show.

9:54 -- Jin is far more forgiving than ... well, anyone.

9:56 -- Jin finally makes it to the hospital -- but not to see Sun. Hmmmmm ...

9:57 -- Looks like we've been watching a Jin flashback this whole time.

9:58 -- Hurley shows up at Sun's door to see the baby, which was nice of him, considering ...

9:59 -- Hurley and Sun go to the cemetery to see Jin's grave.

10:00 -- That's it?

11:23 -- Right now I am hating this episode. I feel like they purposely manipulated us with Jin's flashback and the reveal really wasn't even all that interesting as a result. And the reveal of Michael being the man on the boat was as un-suspenseful as it was predictable. I need to sleep on this one a bit before I just come right and call it one of my least favorite "Lost" episodes ever. See you in the morning.

5:30 AM -- I still don't see it. Here is what is bothering me:

We had three reveals tonight, if you will. Let's throw out Sun being one of the Oceanic 6 since they've revealed who is an Oceanic 6 person the same way every time. That leaves two reveals:

1) Michael is the man on the boat.

I never like to assume I am smarter than anyone else, but I really think we all saw that one coming. And the way in which it was revealed, at least among the people I was watching with, didn't exactly leave us stunned. So it wasn't just what the reveal was, it was the way in which it was done as well that left me underwhelmed.

2) Jin is dead (though apparently this is open to interpretation).

This one angers me. I feel like the show purposely manipulated us (again) to do a reveal. You'll remember in the season finale, Jack spoke about his dad for two reasons -- to prove he was a little nuts and to cover up the fact we were getting a flashforward and not a flashback. Ok, fine. I'll give you that one.

But now you have Sun screaming for Jin in her delivery as a way to make us think he's alive when he's really dead. That's just lazy and deceiving in a way that isn't interesting to the story -- it was done purely to throw us off. In Jack's case, when you look back at it, it's a way to show us just how far off the deep end he has gone. But with Sun, sure you could argue she's distraught over the death of her husband, but that's not why they did it -- they were trying to cover their tracks, pure and simple. Been there, done that.

It all comes down to what we were told and how we were told it. If you had said to me before the show starts, "We find out who the man on the boat is and that Jin doesn't make it off the island" -- I probably would have slapped you. NEVER RUIN "LOST" FOR ME!!! But then I would said alright, that's cool -- should be a good episode. But I'm sorry, I just can't get behind it. When the most surprised I was all episode was when Juliet told Jin about Sun's affair, something isn't right.

I give this episode a D, even though I am really having a hard time finding anything I liked about it.

One last quick point -- Jin's grave. Is he actually buried there? If so, he could be one of the two people that makes up the difference between Jack's story that eight people survived the plane crash, but then we are left with the Oceanic 6. If he isn't, and he died on the island and the body in that grave is one of the 324 bodies the captain talked about, then I find it a little odd that Sun would visit him -- but a grave is a grave, I guess.

One last, last quick point -- If Jin is actually still alive and on the island, they better have a damn good reason for it. Already, I am getting worried about too many "not really dead" moments on "Lost" in seasons to come.

I get the feeling as I write this (and talk to a person or two about it) that I am a bit on my own in not liking this episode (to be read: hated it). So here is my task to you: Can you give me a good, concise reason why this episode was good? I am flexible here.

Over at thelostdiary.com, I do a question-and-answer column every week. I had to skip this week (again) but I just got my laptop back from the shop, so I have all the emails and I am ready to roll. Don't feel like you have to ask a straightforward "Lost" question. Have fun with it. Click here to send me a question (and make sure the subject says LDQA -- I get so much spam on that account it's insane).

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346. I think it's obvious this week's show was completely mediocore when we have pages and pages of uninteresting comments.

Posted at 9:22PM on Mar 15th 2008 by the other julie

347. oh em gee, this diary is hil-ar-ious. I can just picture you and your friends watching lost together. JEALOUS! I need to have a lost party of my own or just crash yours!

But ditto, horrible episode. Although I did get teary eyed when Sun was at Jin's grave. ^o^

Posted at 11:42PM on Mar 15th 2008 by Andrew

348. First, I like your column. I may not always agree with you, but that does not give me the right to bash you, your column, or your opinion. Second, Daniel, assume you are smarter than everyone else because you appear a lot smarter than most people who read your column. Week after week, I read peoples comments who just can not grasp or appreciate the complexities of this show. Do not waste your time and ours by posting a comment saying you are stupid and did not get it. And to the person calling you stupid about the dates on the grave. Think before you type. Desmond called Penny on 12/24/2004. The date on Jin's grave for his death is 9/23/2004. Now stick with me, slow people... Let's assume the Oceanic 6 were rescued in 2005. This means Jin did not get off the island, he "died" on the island. This means he is not an Oceanic 6, but could be assumed to be one of the 8 Jack talked about which would explain how Sun got pregant on the island. Which leaves the question, is he really dead or stuck on the island?
Daniel, thank you for your continued efforts in writing this column. Keep up the good work!

Posted at 12:03AM on Mar 16th 2008 by Annoyed

349. 81. I hate daniel b/c he is a racist. Him and his friends sitting around in their robes and hoods imagining how funny it would be if the baby is black. Vote Obama and bring the change needed to wash away the filth that is Daniel's Friday morning TMZ reviews.

Obama- "Yes We Can"

Posted at 11:45AM on Mar 14th 2008 by Josh, esq.



Umm #81 wouldn't that make u a hater????
the black thing was a joke, just like if sun was black and her baby came out white- funny haha- means somethings not right- get over the racist thing.
As for this episode- i really hope jins not dead- that would suck, maybe hes just hanging out on the island.

Posted at 1:01AM on Mar 16th 2008 by jenni

350. did anyone notices Jins cellphone.... It had to be a flashback the phone was really old

Posted at 11:53AM on Mar 17th 2008 by christine

351. I think I might be the only person who did not see the Michael as a spy thing coming! I was racking my brain thinking who it could be but I was stumped and when they showed him I was shocked. I liked this episode a lot and cried very hard when we found out Jin was dead. BUT! what was with Hurley's "is anyone else coming?.... GOOD" in a weird, almost flirty way when he knew they were going to Jin's grave site??? I may have to read through the rest of the comments (not just the first page) to see if anyone else caught this and can shed some light into my total dismay. But I too wanted that damn baby to come out black, just to give a crazy spin to things, though we all knew she would never sleep with Michael it would have been a fun little trip to take. AND.. revealing that Ben was the one that put that plane into the ocean.. to keep them from continuing their search was intense, where oh where did he get all the bodies? and a plane??? I am loving this season, and sometimes I feel like I may be the only one but I don't care.. it's my weekly dose of escapism and yay for Sun slapping Juliet, it was about time she was put her place (even though I secretly love her)!

Posted at 4:55AM on Mar 16th 2008 by Suzie

352. I love reading these comments, im in the UK and we get Lost episode 3 days after you guys. I always come on here and read the reviews before i watch it, i think this is the first time you guys on here have been so split about an episode. Cant wait for tonight to see if im gonna love it or hate it!!

Posted at 8:47AM on Mar 16th 2008 by Sharon 66

353. Ben could easily be one of the oceanic 6. We've seen his multiple passports. He could be impersonating someone who didn't survive the crash and who didn't have a family. Or the passenger manifest could have been manipulated to show that he was on the flight. This is something Ben could figure out how to get away with. There could also be a reason we don't know yet for the rest of the oceanic 6 to go along with Ben pretending to be one of them.

In this episode, the year of the dragon reference probably means that it was a flashback for Jin since the next year of the dragan is years away. He probably stayed back on the island so Sun could leave. While talking to him at the grave site, she never actually referred to him dying. Her not wanting to lose the wedding ring may not be about grieving but about feeling still married. I'm more interested in why Hurley was pleased that none of the others was around when he showed up at Sun's door and why Sun was so quick to forgive Juliet for the affair tattling.

Posted at 11:33AM on Mar 20th 2008 by mushroom

354. I had to comment on something. Something very important about this show and shows in general. If you are constantly investigating different websites about a show and you read blogs about a show and you seek inside scoops on what is coming soon on a show, then how can you still expect to be surprised about what happens. For normal people who watch the show once a week and follow it like it is just a TV show and not a lifestyle, then you will be surprised when you see Michael return. The reason that they introduced Michael in the middle of the show and not as a dramatic ending to the show is for the pathetic asses who oversnoop and know that he is returning. Maybe he shouldn't have returned at all so you people could be surprised. I didn't know he was returning until I overheard some losers at work talking about their blogs and inside scoop websites. I came to this blog in a moment of weakness, but that doesn't make me right. STOP BLOGGING! GET A LIFE! Its a TV show. It was not a bad episode. I enjoyed it. Let the writers write please and keep us in suspense and then smack us in the face with surprises.

Posted at 1:28PM on Mar 16th 2008 by Yosemite Sam

355. How was this a tear jerker. I don't see how anyone really thought that Jin was in the future. For one he was waaay to persistent about that panda bear. He definitely wasn't behaving like an expectant father. Then there is the fact that back on the island he is saying things like "where sun go, I go" Big clue that he is not getting off with her. Not to mention that it would have been a completely boring story if the obvious had of played out. The grave could mean anything. I doubt that he's dead. As stated, Michael was no surprise so I have to agree with the poor rating.

Posted at 10:11AM on Mar 17th 2008 by shell

356. For all of those who have stated that they think that Ben is part of the Oceanic 6, let me remind you that he can't be -- he wasn't originally on the plane. Neither was Desmond, Juliet or Aaron for that matter. So as far as we know for sure -- only five of the six have been identified -- Kate, Jack, Sayid, Hurley and Sun.

Posted at 12:24AM on Mar 17th 2008 by lost fan

357. Love the commentary...keep up the great work! I just have one possible scenario for you. What if Jin IS one of the Oceanic 6 and he died or was killed after they got recued? After all he was supposed to kill someone for Sun's father and he really let him go and he was running away with Sun when they got on the flight. What if her father had Jin killed? Also, last season Kate asked Jack if he was going to HIS funeral. Could that be Jin's funeral? Just a thought....

Linda from California

Posted at 1:56AM on Mar 17th 2008 by Linda

358. Hurley was glad no one else was going with he and Sun to Jin's gravesite because it would be easier for the two of them to put on the little show or whatever they had to do (like they have to continue the facade of Jin being dead for the public). Sun said she missed Jin and such but never said a word of him being dead. He's obviously one of the survivors to stay behind on the island. The Oceanic 6 have been revealed already: Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sun, Ben, and Saayid. Aaron doesn't count as one of the 6. That all said, I'm sick of the writers piling on yet more mysteries and questions without really answering anything much. If my husband didn't love this show so much, I probably would've stopped watching it last season and waited for it's end and then rented the DVD'S.

And I don't think I could detest Kate more. I'm SICK of her. GO JULIETTE!

Posted at 2:30AM on Mar 17th 2008 by oyeah1968

359. #352 lost fan: Ben most certainly could be one of the 6. Are you saying that he was always a veterinarian? And he couldn't possibly pose as someone else to get off the island in order to hunt down people who want to hurt it? Desmond hasn't shown up in the future flashes yet anyway. We don't know that he made it off the island technically. But Ben did. He and Saayid had a meeting in the vet's office.

Posted at 2:38AM on Mar 17th 2008 by oyeah1968

360. Whether Jin is still alive on the island or died trying to get off- I'm sure most families of Oceanic 815 had headstones made when they found out that there were no survivors on the plane... Sun's parents probably had Sun and Jin's made since his father probably could not afford to have a plot in that beautiful graveyard.

I thought this episode was good - not great like the Desmond episode, but sometimes I feel like people have these ridic expectations for the show and do not appreciate other episodes. I mean they cannot all be episodes where you are sitting on the edge of your seat and freaking out the whole time.

Posted at 10:20AM on Mar 17th 2008 by Jean

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