Daniel's Death Officially Ruled Accidental

3661. 3659. But we DO know that Stern allowed his name to be used to get Anna drugs, we DO know he administered drugs to Anna (by his own admission), we DO know he saw her "more impaired than that", and we DO know he kept a child from knowing who her father was after her mother died, we DO know he did not get re decent medical help for days while she was ill and then died.......those things are FACTS......judging him on just those things is enough IMO to quesion his actions.



Posted at 4:26PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by Dink

How original of you to say this. I don;t think! How many times are these remarks going to be milked. Time for you antinoids to realise the authorative experts in the US and the Bahamas would also have done their homework. Guess what, no foul play recorded. No arrest or under suspicion for any wrong doing.

Daniel's inquest - accidental death. The list is endless. Surely, even the most simple minded person on this blog must have come to the conclusion, that if the Virgie team could have found out anything different than already reported, we would already know about it. Also, it would make a nonsense of Virgie vs Howard for defamation. She would be going for the big one Howard killed my daughter and grandson.

Why has she not done this! It's plainly obvious there is no evidence to support this claim, so she is stuck suing with a frivolous claim.

It is not illegal to use aliases for prescription drugs if you are famous. It is illegal to obtain drugs in your name and give them to an unsuspecting person. Police in both countries have already established all the drugs Anna used were prescribed for her personal use under different aliases, hence no law broken. You may not like this answer, but it is as it is.


Posted at 10:22PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by another dopey antinoid post




Well, I never mentioned murder--simply stated FACTS---stern did every one of the things I mentioned and that is what I judge him on. I disagree with you about the law and allowing your name to be used for drugs meant for someone else---whether famous or not. I sure wouldnt want my kids to believe that there are people above the law. Maybe you feel differently, and that's your right.

Maybe Virgie is doing this to get the truth out about Dannielynn's family......if the things said about her family are not true, they could be very hurtful to her one day when she grows up and reads them. I think Virgie has every right to clear her name. just like anyone else would.......IMO

Posted at 10:34PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by Dink

3662. It is not illegal to use aliases for prescription drugs if you are famous. It is illegal to obtain drugs in your name and give them to an unsuspecting person. Police in both countries have already established all the drugs Anna used were prescribed for her personal use under different aliases, hence no law broken. You may not like this answer, but it is as it is.


Posted at 10:22PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by another dopey antinoid post

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What you are saying is that there is one law for the famous and another one for the rest of us Americans. I don't believe you. Prove what you say with statues or laws. I think in this country all are under the same law. Therefore if Howard got drugs in his name to give to Anna then that should in my opinion be against the law. He stated in court if I remember right in the Seidlin court that no drugs for Anna was ever in his name or at least something to that effect not the exact wording but it meant the same thing. Prove that wasn't against the law to tell an untruth in court after being duly sworn to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Come on prove to me oh brilliant one.

Posted at 10:45PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by I am just remember

3663. OMG! Are you serious? LMAO
McCabe doesn't have to tell you what he has! LOL
We'll see when they get Bonnie's computer, won't we? Art's, Howard's, Krista Barth's, Lyndal's, Butterfly's, Rose's, Ken's Havana's?
Why do you think they are fighting this???? Give me a break. You're rights go out the window when you BREAK THE LAW and LIE.
They don't want to turn over their computers because they KNOW they're LYING.
Why do you think Rose shut down her site in the winter? Did she get rid of her computer? How many of them got rid of computers? How many computers did they have in each home and/or business?
It will all come out. Then what will you say?
LOL
What a joke! Wake up!
IMO!

Posted at 6:02PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by Things that make u go hmmm...

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Idiot post! Surely even you must have some intelligence to realise that if this is the way McCabe wants to go regarding bloggers, then be scared very scared you HKS hater bloggers, especially einy and dimwit Kerry. Mole slipped up several times. I know Lin wood has all this info because TMZ, Topix, QV, Rose and many other forums were being watched and all info recorded. How many of you haters accused Howard of murder?

You pitiful souls need fumigating, you got bugs for brains.

Posted at 10:56PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by another dopey antinoid post

3664. Although people often speak of "the statute of limitations", in fact there are many statutes which apply limitations periods to civil actions. Sometimes it can be difficult to keep track of the various statutes and their exceptions. Thus it is a very good idea for somebody who is concerned about losing their right to sue as a result of the expiration of the statutory limitations period to consult with a qualified lawyer, who can help determine which statute applies, and help preserve the right to recover damages.

The Discovery Rule
Sometimes it is not reasonably possible for a person to discover the cause of an injury, or even to know that an injury has occurred, until considerably after the act which causes the injury.

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/limitations_by_state/Texas.html

Posted at 11:27PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by Things that make u go hmmm...

3665. Idiot post! Surely even you must have some intelligence to realise that if this is the way McCabe wants to go regarding bloggers, then be scared very scared you HKS hater bloggers, especially einy and dimwit Kerry. Mole slipped up several times. I know Lin wood has all this info because TMZ, Topix, QV, Rose and many other forums were being watched and all info recorded. How many of you haters accused Howard of murder?

You pitiful souls need fumigating, you got bugs for brains.


Posted at 10:56PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by another dopey antinoid post


I'm shaking in my boots. LMAO

Posted at 11:29PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by YET another dopey STERNOID post

3666. 3656. Arthur's attorneys have said that all of these false statements and stories damaged her ability to gain custody and visitation rights for her granddaughter."

taken from: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5721776.html

No American Court has heard custody and visitation issues regarding Dannielynn = no American based bad publicity for Virgie could possibly have caused her any harm. Virgie's lawsuit is about something that never happened.

Posted at 8:18PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by Questions Questions

BINGO!! Lawsuit gets tossed.

Posted at 9:42PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by Can I get an AMEN??

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN.

Virgies case was not important enough for a State Court, even McCabe realised this and the Federal Court will throw out this frivolous case. I am dumbfounded at the stupidity of O'Quinn's lawyers. This is going nowhere, is a waste of taxpayers money and once again downgrades the Virgie team's reputation, which was already in tatters. And then Virgie wonders why her reputation is damaged. Lady you did it to yourself with enormous help from John O'Quinn, Einy, Kerry, Mole and their ilk!

Tit for tat, mentioning bloggers in court cases, antinoids were and are infamous for their dafamation of Howard, Bonnie and Larry. They consistently blogged to find dirt on Larry and Howards family and failed abysmally. Antinoid posts recorded in court would put Virgies in the shade with their unfounded murderous comments!

Sorry folks VIRGIE cannot win!

Time for the antinoids to realise, they may SHOUT but it amounts to nothing. Sternies whisper and work in small numbers with concise and proven evidence. Numerous Antinoid people with crooked minds cannot overcome TRUTH, PROOF and EVIDENCE and it really angers them.

Posted at 11:29PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by GREAT, worthy of a repost

3667.
Idiot post! Surely even you must have some intelligence to realise that if this is the way McCabe wants to go regarding bloggers, then be scared very scared you HKS hater bloggers, especially einy and dimwit Kerry. Mole slipped up several times. I know Lin wood has all this info because TMZ, Topix, QV, Rose and many other forums were being watched and all info recorded. How many of you haters accused Howard of murder?

You pitiful souls need fumigating, you got bugs for brains.




Posted at 10:56PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by another dopey antinoid post

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This verdict is huge because of what the jury didn't say -- that Howard K was responsible for the death.


Poor TMZ...they got bugs for brains..

Posted at 11:32PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by Wormy peanut butter sandwich..

3668. Came across this article and thought I would share

Freeport doctor charged with writing illegal prescriptions resulting in two deaths
March 19, 2008 - 9:41AM

http://www.waltonsun.com/news/ignasiak_1068___article.html/counts_deaths.html

Posted at 11:34PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by tiny

3669.

3666. Idiot post! Surely even you must have some intelligence to realise that if this is the way McCabe wants to go regarding bloggers, then be scared very scared you HKS hater bloggers, especially einy and dimwit Kerry. Mole slipped up several times. I know Lin wood has all this info because TMZ, Topix, QV, Rose and many other forums were being watched and all info recorded. How many of you haters accused Howard of murder?

You pitiful souls need fumigating, you got bugs for brains.


Posted at 10:56PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by another dopey antinoid post

3663. OMG! Are you serious? LMAO
McCabe doesn't have to tell you what he has! LOL
We'll see when they get Bonnie's computer, won't we? Art's, Howard's, Krista Barth's, Lyndal's, Butterfly's, Rose's, Ken's Havana's?
Why do you think they are fighting this???? Give me a break. You're rights go out the window when you BREAK THE LAW and LIE.
They don't want to turn over their computers because they KNOW they're LYING.
Why do you think Rose shut down her site in the winter? Did she get rid of her computer? How many of them got rid of computers? How many computers did they have in each home and/or business?
It will all come out. Then what will you say?
LOL
What a joke! Wake up!
IMO!

Posted at 6:02PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by Things that make u go hmmm...

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I'm shaking in my boots. LMAO

Posted at 11:29PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by YET another dopey STERNOID post


Bravo Thangs, but I for one will now change my moniker as it is obvious we are being watched. Curb it! OK get my message!

Posted at 11:44PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by ?????

3670. He used an alias: A lawsuit on John Ritter's misdiagnosis
When actor John Ritter checked into a Burbank, California hospital the day he died, he used an alias, "Edwin Marcus," to protect his privacy. He died of an aortic tear, which might have been diagnosed by an X-ray. His widow, Amy Yasbeck, is suing two of the doctors who treated him, saying they misdiagnosed his condition, and did not order an X-ray. The doctors' attorneys say the name change created confusion at the hospital, for which John is responsible.

John Ritter was 54 years old when he died of an aortic tear in 2003. His widow is seeking $67 million in damages.

Advice: Patients using aliases, or their advocates, should carefully track their care against the hospital's checklist to ensure all necessary physician orders are performed.

Browse for similar stories in our index at the very bottom of this page, or read a celebrity story.

Thanks to ContactMusic.com for the source story yesterday.

Posted by Ken Farbstein

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:sIHOGaTmKPEJ:patientadvocare.blogspot.com/2008/03/he-used-alias-lawsuit-on-john-ritters.html+celebrity%27s+using+aliases+for+their+prescription+drugs&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk

Posted at 12:12AM on Apr 23rd 2008 by INFO

3671. The thin line between legal and illegal drugs
December 27 2002




Pharmaceutical companies are streets ahead of delivering what geneticists promise - you just need the right supplier, writes Simon Castles.


There is a delicious moment in the 1989 teen flick Heathers where some concerned parents tell their daughter Veronica, played by young and rising star Winona Ryder, to stay away from prescription drugs.

If only Winona had listened to them. When picked up for shoplifting from Saks Fifth Avenue store in Beverly Hills last December, Ryder was in possession of eight types of prescription medication. Her funky handbag was a virtual pharmacy of painkillers and anti-anxiety drugs: Endocet, liquid Demerol, liquid diazepam, Vicoprofen, Vicodin, Percodan, Valium and morphine sulphate.

Clearly Winona, who made her name playing one depressed gen-Xer after another, is not in a particularly good way herself. The shoplifting and vandalism, and the excuses that followed - "I was preparing for a movie role; no, um, I thought the store was keeping my account open" - are symptomatic of much larger problems for Ryder. Reality does indeed bite.

But there is more to this story than just another 30-something struggling to keep pain and anxiety at bay. The way Ryder actually came to have such a list of prescription drugs in her handbag says a lot about the seedier side of the multi-billion-dollar pharmaceutical industry. It also raises questions about the thin line between the legal and illegal drugs industries, and the respective market and trade in both - a line that grows blurrier with each new wonder drug to hit the market.

According to Ryder's probation report, in a three-year period the star - using some half-a-dozen aliases - had 37 prescriptions filled by 30 different doctors. Apparently she was shopping doctors, the report said.



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This shopping (as opposed to the five-finger kind she did at Saks) led her to Jules Mark Lusman, widely known as something of a doctor to the stars. According to the Medical Board of California, Lusman would charge thousands of dollars to make house calls to celebrities. He would examine the stars briefly, and then prescribe drugs, some of which were known to have addictive qualities.

Lusman - who is also alleged to have provided prescription drugs to another gen-X poster girl, Courtney Love - was said by the board to cater to the demands of wealthy and /or famous drug-seekers for prescription narcotics that would otherwise have to be obtained on the street. (Well, yes, one can't have the rich and famous getting their drugs from the street! That's where common, er, drug addicts are to be found.)

So here we have big money changing hands, cash and carry transactions, multiple aliases, multiple suppliers and the dispensing of a range of addictive drugs - and yet we are referring, remember, to the legal drugs trade, not the illegal one. Can anyone spot the difference?

But perhaps we shouldn't really be surprised by any of this. Is it any wonder the demand for prescription medication is growing at the same time as more and more drugs are coming on to the market - drugs that are increasingly capable of doing the most incredible things to our state of mind and body?

Take the popular antidepressants such as Prozac and Zoloft. They are a godsend to the clinically depressed, no question about that. But given that these drugs can have a positive effect on a person's self-esteem - can make an individual feel more outgoing and confident - might not others be tempted to take these drugs also?

In his groundbreaking book Listening to Prozac, psychiatrist Peter Kramer wonders if the new class of antidepressants has indeed opened the way for what he calls cosmetic pharmacology. In other words, it is quite possible that people will start taking such medication not because they really have to, but simply because it makes them feel better than good.

And what about the demand that may emerge in years ahead for the new wonder drug Modafinil? Ostensibly a drug for narcoleptics (that very small percentage of people who fall asleep uncontrollably), Modafinil is basically a wakefulness pill. So here's a hypothetical for you: how popular might such a drug prove to be to bright young things who want to work hard and play hard? In the fast new century, why waste time sleeping for eight hours a day?

Like it or not, we are at the dawn of a pharmacological revolution. In his book Our Posthuman Future, Francis Fukuyama puts it this way: "In the future, everything that the popular imagination envisions genetic engineering accomplishing is much more likely to be accomplished sooner through neuropharmacology."

So what will we do when a range of little pills can enhance intelligence, improve memory, help us concentrate better, make us more extroverted and immune to emotional pain? How will we manage the huge demand for such drugs? Who will get them and how? Will it be by legal means or otherwise?

These are big questions, and not ones Winona Ryder need try to answer. She is simply a troubled young woman who is doctor-shopping in order to get the best prescription drugs currently out there.

In another great little moment in Heathers, Ryder's character says wryly, "If you were happy every day of your life, you wouldn't be a human being, you'd be a game-show host." That may have been the case in the late '80s, Winona, but in the future we might all be as happy as game-show hosts - just so long as we can find the right drug, and a doctor who will prescribe it to us.

Posted at 12:05AM on Apr 23rd 2008 by INFO

3672. onlymm
Wichita Falls, TX


#39138
13 min ago


Spinners Galore wrote:
OK I found out what letter Butterfly wrote that compiled all kinds of defamatory statements about VA. Remember when Jane D. asked posters to write to People magazine to get some interest going - well Butterfly is now saying Jane told her to send that letter to People magazine. Butterfly, you wrote the letter. Jane did not tell anyone what to say. Her email to all of you is available somewhere around the internet and it does not say \"write to People and tell them lies or bad things about Virgie\" Butterfly you are responsible for the contents of the letter - you wrote it - you own it. Man oh man what a bunch of spinners these people are.

Memories here!

Posted at 12:08AM on Apr 23rd 2008 by From Topix

3673. How original of you to say this. I don;t think! How many times are these remarks going to be milked. Time for you antinoids to realise the authorative experts in the US and the Bahamas would also have done their homework. Guess what, no foul play recorded. No arrest or under suspicion for any wrong doing.

Daniel's inquest - accidental death. The list is endless. Surely, even the most simple minded person on this blog must have come to the conclusion, that if the Virgie team could have found out anything different than already reported, we would already know about it. Also, it would make a nonsense of Virgie vs Howard for defamation. She would be going for the big one Howard killed my daughter and grandson.

Why has she not done this! It's plainly obvious there is no evidence to support this claim, so she is stuck suing with a frivolous claim.

It is not illegal to use aliases for prescription drugs if you are famous. It is illegal to obtain drugs in your name and give them to an unsuspecting person. Police in both countries have already established all the drugs Anna used were prescribed for her personal use under different aliases, hence no law broken. You may not like this answer, but it is as it is.


Posted at 10:22PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by another dopey antinoid post
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I'm sorry, did you say something ?

Posted at 12:15AM on Apr 23rd 2008 by Proud Antinoid

3674. Idiot post! Surely even you must have some intelligence to realise that if this is the way McCabe wants to go regarding bloggers, then be scared very scared you HKS hater bloggers, especially einy and dimwit Kerry. Mole slipped up several times. I know Lin wood has all this info because TMZ, Topix, QV, Rose and many other forums were being watched and all info recorded. How many of you haters accused Howard of murder?

You pitiful souls need fumigating, you got bugs for brains.


Posted at 10:56PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by another dopey antinoid post
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If you're going to insult... LEARN TO SPELL!
It's "R-E-A-L-I-Z-E"

Posted at 12:15AM on Apr 23rd 2008 by You got sh*t for brains!

3675. Idiot post! Surely even you must have some intelligence to realise that if this is the way McCabe wants to go regarding bloggers, then be scared very scared you HKS hater bloggers, especially einy and dimwit Kerry. Mole slipped up several times. I know Lin wood has all this info because TMZ, Topix, QV, Rose and many other forums were being watched and all info recorded. How many of you haters accused Howard of murder?

You pitiful souls need fumigating, you got bugs for brains.

Posted at 10:56PM on Apr 22nd 2008 by another dopey antinoid post

Can I sue TMZ then because they enabled me by providing a forum where I could post my thoughts, opinions and point of view? They solicited me by advertising and keeping me "hooked".

Posted at 12:20AM on Apr 23rd 2008 by TMZ Victim