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Spike to Clint:

'We're Not on a Plantation!'

6/7/2008 1:03 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Director Spike Lee has done what no one thought would ever happen. He's brought back Dirty Harry!

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After complaints from Spike Lee claiming that Clint Eastwood didn't include black soldiers in his two Iwo Jima films, Eastwood decided to come back on the controversial director with some words of his own saying, " A guy like him should shut his face."

Lee then further fueled the drama fire saying, "First of all, the man is not my father and we're not on a plantation either. He's a great director ... I didn't personally attack him. And a comment like "A guy like that should shut his face," come on Clint, come on. He sounds like an angry old man right there."

Missing your afternoon nap would make you cranky too!

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Dani    

Spike Lee's comment me interested - so I googled the subject. Turns out that 900 of the 22000 soldiers were black (4 percent). Here's the best article I found, it even interviews surviving members:
Absent from history: the black soldiers at Iwo Jima http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/20/usa.film
Note - this article was written in 2006! Spike Lee's comment is not just a low after-the-fact blow, Clint was lobbied hard during the filming, he just chose not to respond. Lastly - turns out that it was a black man who gave one of the white men who hoisted the flag a piece of the pipe to do so. Definitely not one of the "hoisters", but close enough to the action that he might have warranted a role as an extra in the film, no? It's not like Clint hasn't made films featuring black men and black history before, so I wonder why he was just such a stubborn old cuss this time?

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Mikeboy    

Did Spike pay any attention in Geography or History class? One of Clint's last WWII movies was about soldiers in the Japanese Army on Iwo Jima before the battle--I don't think Hirohito had very many black subjects back then (and I don't think the current emperor has a lot, either.) And, the Marine Corps didn't accept blacks in WWII (sad but true,) so unless you want to re-write history, he shouldn't have expected to see any brothers in "Flags of our Fathers." Finally, as a good redskin, let me (and I think I speak for a lot of my red brothers,) say that I have an interest in "Flags" as a statement about OUR heroism in the Big One, so I don't take kindly to any belly-aching about it! (Buffalo Soldier, lackey of the white man/Buffalo Soldier, shooting Indians for America!)

2274 days ago
18.

Rickster    

So why did Clint not show black soldiers in both movies? Why could'nt he just answer the accusation instead of berating the man?

I find Clint's words childish and shows that there was some truth to what Spike said or he woul dnot have reacted the way he did.

Spike is right, times have changed, Clint is not above reproach.....Dirty Harry, what do you have to hide?

2274 days ago
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jamespman    

I think you both are great direstors however, Clint stick to the issue. Is it true what Mr. Lee is saying?
Pman

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Monica Lewinsky's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife for President    

Mikeboy, did you really think SPIKE LEE had ever opened any kind of book, much less one relating to history or geography? People like him spout off at the mouth with absolutely no basis in reality or facts. They like to hear themselves talk. He thinks he's "speaking for the black man" every time he utters a sentence, and I'm guessing most blacks wish he would just "shut his face."

Clint Eastwood has more power and influence in Hollywood than Spike will ever even DREAM of having, so he better take Clint's advice while he still can - or he may just find himself back on a plantation. I'm pretty sure Clint can do it!

2274 days ago
21.

TEVO    

As illustrated by this article and the comments thus far advanced, racial bigotry is alive and well in America. This is not to say bigotry of whites toward blacks, but these days it's mostly blacks toward whites. My concern is that the white blacklash that may follow doesn't divide us further as a nation. It's time to leave the racial hatred and bigotry of the past behind us. The U.S. is the only nation on earth that has enacted legislation to end racial injustice and bigotry in business, housing and many other arenas, but bigotry in one's heart can't be driven away with legislation. True love of one's fellow man can only take place given time, understanding and communication. Let us all try harder to be human.

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Another stupid story by TMZ's uneducated chimpanzees    

Little spikey lee is a dyed in the wool racist. His major complaint with "Flags of our Fathers" is that there were no black people in the film (which is about the famous flag raising on Iwo Jima). Well little spikey, I hate to rain on your racist parade, but there wasn't a significant negro presence on Iwo; the armed forces at that time were severely segregated, and weren't allowed to fight; they were typically cooks or yeomen on naval ships. At Iwo, black men weren't allowed to land on the island and definitely were restricted from fighting; they were support for the invasion only.

When watching the film, what I got from it was that there weren't black men in the film, which seemed odd. When I asked why & decided to research it, this idea of a segregated army is what I found out. If anything, this film points out not only how dishonest the US was to the American people about the flag raising (and how it so negatively impacted the soldiers involved in the raising), but that the US Armed Forces stupidly had a segregationist policy regarding black men back then. An entire generation of black men were restricted from fighting (with the exception of the Tuskegee Airmen, and other rare instances; they have nothing to do with the Iwo invasion). However, little spikey wants to rewrite history & show black men where they weren't, and if they're not shown there, it's "racist".

He oughta know racism; it's his stock in trade. I guess racism knows no color boundaries; dumbasses like little spikey have been using it in their favor for years. What little spikey really ought to do is think before he opens his big mouth; it'll be much less embarrassing for him later on...

2274 days ago
23.

Harvey's Mom    

Its funny in life how people always find what they are looking for....

Spike Lee is a racist and that's why he sees racism, those are the glasses he sees all life through....People's skin

Clint shouldn't even respond to this piece of trash....

Plus Spike is CHEAP! I have a good friend who waits tables in NYC and said Spike is a well known cheap tipper at his restaurant and complains about EVERYTHING. This guy is real LOSER! Go home SPIKE! Even your Michael Jordan commercials were lame...

2274 days ago
24.

Theseer    

Im a little tired of the emailer 'tiredofnonsense' whose abhorrent lack of education appears in his child like hate emails....what nonsense!...a guy like him should shut his face!

2274 days ago
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Joe    

Everybody is missing the point. Wether SPIKE should have brought this up or not is somthing different. The question is Valid. Why didn't CLINT Show any Black Soldiers in this Two War Movies. If he just explains why and bring about a discussion about this, it would be much more productive than Character assassination. Whcih is always the argument of the Lame. It's a simple Question. Stick to that.

2274 days ago
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bedhead    

Why the hell does this littlle Jimminy Cricket F*** have to go around looking to make EVERYTHING a race issue. Look, uh, SPIKE, you just keep making those haed-hitting purpose-driven sham movies tou make, and leave a real filmmaking MASTER alone. By the way, SPIKE, if there were a new war declared, and there was a draft , we wouldn't see anything of you but the soles of your LUGZ getting your weenie ass OUT of here.( America) You got a real big troublemaking mouth brutha.

2274 days ago
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Monica Lewinsky's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife for President    

Hey Joe, what do you think would happen if Clint asked why Spike Lee never has white people in HIS movies? There would be a tirade like you've never seen, without a doubt lead by Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, about a "white man questioning a black man's film making." Clint doesn't have to answer to him about why he didn't include black soldiers in his films. Perhaps if someone intelligent had presented the question to him in a presentable forum, he would have provided the answer. Or, maybe he assumes Spike can find something like that in, oh, say, a HISTORY book? Maybe he's trying to encourage him to educate himself instead of always giving him the answers like he's apparently used to. I know it's like Kryptonite to him, but he should try picking up a book once in awhile instead of pulling out his well-worn race card.

2274 days ago
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wtf    

mildbrew

He did answer the question. Shut his face was only part of what he said. Stop using TMZ as your only news source.

2274 days ago
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Minorityinseattle    

Let Spike keep talking he just keeps showing the ignorance of himself. Spike is not a hide in the wool racist he is very open and always has been. I am a minority but probably not in Spike's eyes because I am not black. His movies employ majority of Blacks. Why doesn't Spike make a movie about the Japanese battalion in WWII that had more Medalof Honor Winners than any battalion in the history or US. We, Japanese lost everything in WWII, what did we do? We went back to work and earned it!

2274 days ago
30.

jer    

Spike Lee....waiste of oxygen. A guy like him should keep his mouth shut. Remember his joy when an innocent man was pulled out of a truck and nearly beat to death...somethings last forever...his idiocy being one of them...so Spike..people dont make fun of you cause your black...its cause your stupid..rude..uninformed..

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