Hudson Victim -- Murdered by His Own Gun?

91. Dear closethedoor,

If you honestly believe Mr. Balfour is innocent, stop talking. As an advocate, you make him look guilty. Shut up. You are not helping him.

Mr. Balfour will get his lawyer. There is not a high powered attorney that is going to rise to his defense, so drop that line.

Mr. Balfour's mother could use some legal advice. She should make herself unavailable for comment ASAP in the meantime.

I know of what I speak.

Posted at 10:28PM on Nov 2nd 2008 by RationalThinkerexADA

92. damn u 91 just cause somebody have a record don't make them be a bad person...thatt boy was a teen when he did that crime he did his time came home and got a job..thats more then i can say about most people coming outta prison saying i can't find a job..william got his ged in prison...whos say william can't change..ya'll listing to lying ass julia....damn right i'm on william side.

Posted at 11:04PM on Nov 2nd 2008 by closethegate

93. #71 you a damn lie this is a high profile case...and yes a high profile lawyer will be glad to handle william case dumb ass

Posted at 11:08PM on Nov 2nd 2008 by closethegate

94. This is another reason why NO ONE should own a handgun. There is no reason. We need to elect a president who will allow common-sense gun laws so we can begin registering and keeping track of where all of these things are. The gun nut's will say that Chicago already has a ban, and that didn't work. But that just means we need a national system of registration. Then when the American people finally gets sick of the gun madness they can be picked up, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, every last one of them.

Posted at 11:09PM on Nov 2nd 2008 by Karen

95. ya'll can't tell me that i know the law.min william said he wanted a lawyer they never got him and ship his ass back to prison they can not do that.even when he violated parole he can have a lawyer at his hearing..you can't tell me what i know..

Posted at 11:16PM on Nov 2nd 2008 by closethegate

96. Dear closethegate,

Your response illustrates why it is my belief you should stop talking.

I devoted not one syllable to his prior record. Yet you bring his criminal past up in the first sentence.

You do not have a strategy for dealing with the court of popular opinion. Blind defense is not a strategy It has the opposite effect. It makes people think you are ignorant or lacking any awareness of the larger issues. Another strategy would be to attack Mr. Balfour's detractors from a legal standpoint, but you seem to be lacking knowledge or awareness in that arena also. You could easily remedy that if you so choose by some internet research. Think in legal terms, not your emotional connections.

TMZ will not be a factor in any sort of legal proceedings regarding these three murders, but you may get a sense of popular opinion. You lack that.

Stop it. Now.

Posted at 11:42PM on Nov 2nd 2008 by RationalThinkerexADA

97. "94. This is another reason why NO ONE should own a handgun. There is no reason. We need to elect a president who will allow common-sense gun laws so we can begin registering and keeping track of where all of these things are. The gun nut's will say that Chicago already has a ban, and that didn't work. But that just means we need a national system of registration. Then when the American people finally gets sick of the gun madness they can be picked up, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, every last one of them.

Posted at 11:09PM on Nov 2nd 2008 by Karen"

SURE Karen, all the Law abiding people would turn them in, but do you really think the criminals would just hand them over??? Turn left on Lala Land road, keep on dreamin

Posted at 11:55PM on Nov 2nd 2008 by seriously

98. number 96 learn to spell

Posted at 12:00AM on Nov 3rd 2008 by chicago girl

99. "
95. ya'll can't tell me that i know the law"

Nobody's telling you that! They're telling you the opposite.

I told somebody many posts ago that William was entitled to a lawyer for the parole hearing and other people said that as well. If it's a public defender, that will amount to a few minutes. Parole violations are pretty easy. He's not entitled to a lawyer for the triple murder yet because he hasn't been charged. He is free to cooperate if he wants to and he is free to not take a polygraph. I think he did good not taking the polygraph. This isnt' the Maury show, it's more serious. I don't hold that against him at all. He did the smart thing and if they haven't arrested or charged him, it's ok to not cooperate whether you're innocent or guilty.

If you think a high profile lawyer is going to step up here, I think you're delusional. But hey, I would be happy to wrong in this case.

Posted at 11:58PM on Nov 2nd 2008 by RationalThinkerexADA

100. SURE Karen, all the Law abiding people would turn them in, but do you really think the criminals would just hand them over??? Turn left on Lala Land road, keep on dreamin

Posted at 11:55PM on Nov 2nd 2008 by seriously

This is my thinking too. I would be all for more gun control if I thought it would cut down on crime. But law abiding citizens with registered guns aren't responsible for most of the senseless violence. Sure, they probably have a share. I get that.

But if you don't care about the laws against murdering, are you really going to comply with legal registration of weapons?

It's a dilemna all right. Nobody seems to have a good answer.

Posted at 12:05AM on Nov 3rd 2008 by mindy

101. From rational to closethegates

You do not have a strategy for dealing with the court of popular opinion.

I understand that William has his defenders and that's all well and good. But for god's sake quit bringing up the Nancy Grace interview. She may have said good stuff about the Hudson cases, but she also made an absurd defense in his carjacking case.

The entire interview seems to be cut short on youtube now, but if you watched the original interview, that part was ridiculous. She would have been more credible if she had just said, "He was wrong, he should not have done that, and he's served his time". People can relate to that, especially when it comes from a mom.

But that's not what she did. She made it sound like hey, he was just stealing a car, it's the victim's fault it turned into a carjacking.

I totally feel for her in many ways, but that was unbelievable.

Posted at 12:19AM on Nov 3rd 2008 by mindy

102. MAYBE JULIA HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT BUT THE BABY WASN'T SUPPOSE TO GET SHOT.

Posted at 12:42AM on Nov 3rd 2008 by grannymarie5

103. to blessings, i think you are right on all counts. It's a tragedy people get murdered like this all over and every day and it's so common we don't even finish reading the reading the entire story in the paper. And all of those people were real humans, with real people who loved them.

It doesn't matter who we elect, neither of them will make crime or gangs his number one priority. If he addresses these issues, his solution will never look at all of the underlying problems that make these lifestyle choices so attractive to young people.

We have the same choice we always do. Plug your nose and vote for the one you think will do the least amount of damage!

Posted at 12:44AM on Nov 3rd 2008 by broopa

104. #101 mindy stfu i been seeing ppl cuss u out all day....tell u some william mother was back on nacy grace tonight.....and william mother stated they refuse him a lawyer and refuse to let her see him.and to the person thinking no high profile lawyer might don't step up we will see...william can have a lawyer during and after questioning no matter if he was charge are not..damn nacy grace she only looking at one thing william car jack somebody and the ppl was on the hood...the boy did it time for that he was a dumb ass teen..hes a grown man now who's say he didnt change??? my eye is on julia day 1

Posted at 12:48AM on Nov 3rd 2008 by closethegate

105. 106. #101 mindy stfu i been seeing ppl cuss u out all day....

No, you haven't.

I look forward to the new interview with Nancy Grace and I hope it's different. No matter what I think of William or his involvement, I feel for his mom. I hope she does well. As I stated earlier, I understand mothers standing by their children. Standing by them does not mean making excuses for inexcuseable things. He did serve his time and that's all she had to say. People generally respect people that don't make excuses for their bad behavior. and just say I was wrong and it won't happen again.

Several posters have explained the legal issues with a court appointed attorney. You would rather go after people for petty issues than research the legal issues William may be facing and that's your choice.

If you want to build a good case on these boards for William, you've gotten some good advice from several posters. Sometimes you have to believe in your cause enough to listen.

I wish you well. And I'm sorry you're having a difficult time. This just sucks no matter whose side you're on.

Posted at 1:15AM on Nov 3rd 2008 by mindy