Giuliani -- Is Yours Bigger Than Sully's?

1. they are both great men but rudy had a whole city in his hands and many deaths

Posted at 10:33AM on Jan 29th 2009 by suburbandrudgery

2. What a stupid question this is!

Posted at 11:23AM on Jan 29th 2009 by rainonme

3. Its really not fair to compare these two tragedies, but both of them handled themselves very well.

Posted at 10:44AM on Jan 29th 2009 by tkennedy

4. It's really not fair to compare these two tragedies, but both of them handled themselves very well.

Posted at 10:47AM on Jan 29th 2009 by tkennedy

5. Why is it that people doing their jobs are called heroes? Such nonsense. And I love how the world looks in astonishment when New Yorkers actually help each other. Any other part of America would just do it, but noooooo...New Yorkers are GREAT! Give me a break.

Posted at 10:48AM on Jan 29th 2009 by Jean Summers--slim, trim and can still fit in my high school cheerleader uniform (I was squad captain)

6. Rudy handled the aftermath of a disaster; Sully avoided one. Sully wins hands down.

Posted at 11:10AM on Jan 29th 2009 by JJ

7. technically giuliani ia hero (ar at least hero-ish) while sully is not a hero, sully is a pro

giuliani is, however, an asshole as well

Posted at 10:59AM on Jan 29th 2009 by clarification

8. The term "hero" is completely wrong in both contexts here. You're a hero if you run into a burning building to rescue someone, you're a hero if you risk your life climbing out on thin ice to save someone who has fallen in. You are NOT a hero if you are just doing your job in a fully-competent way.

That pilot is awesome; he deserves all the compliments we can give him, but his actions were what he was trained for (as he himself says).

As for Mr. Giuliani, I suppose his actions on 9/11 were generally appropriate and he provided decent leadership (setting aside the idiocy of putting NYC's emergency command post in its biggest target, the World Trade Center). Again, though, speaking clearly to people, showing steady emotions, helping people get through that day: that is not heroic, he was doing the job he was elected to do, and doing it well.

The heroes of that day were the firemen and cops who went up those towers when they didn't have to, against orders, and knowing they would likely die.

"Hero" is a very big word. Let's not ruin it.

Posted at 11:05AM on Jan 29th 2009 by Observer

9. TMZ, your a pain the AZZ. This is like comparing apples to oranges.

What a dumb ass question......................

Posted at 11:07AM on Jan 29th 2009 by :what ev errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

10. Yea what # 6 said

Posted at 11:16AM on Jan 29th 2009 by Bob

11. I forget, what exactly did the former mayor do other than stand in a spot and tell people to go shopping?

Posted at 11:16AM on Jan 29th 2009 by logrus

12. This is not fair to any of them. What was Rudy suppose to do on 9/11? This comparison of "heroes" is not cool.

I'm sure Sully could not have prevented what happened on 9/11! So, please.

Posted at 3:13PM on Jan 30th 2009 by Josie

13. Rudy Giuliani and 1000's of others put out heroic efforts to react to the 9/11 events, but considering all the was done in the recovery and the followup investigation of all the information about that event, what led up to it and what happened after, Giuliani can't be logically singled out as any kind of separate hero. To do so only shows the limited attention span of someone sitting in front of a television set with no capacity to learn or think comprehensively and independently.

Then of course there are the multitude of facts found at the core of the events, time and time again, that blatantly indicate that 9/11 was not a simple matter of flying planes into the towers, the Pentagon or the ground. Next to none of the direct evidence in pieces matches the whole. The twin tower events are full of outragious inconsistencies, the Pentagon was definately NOT hit by a passenger jet, and witnesses in the area where the fourth plane supposedly went down indicated that apart from a smoking hole in the ground with no plane parts or bodies, they saw nothing like a plane crash event or evidence of such a thing. US citizens had the wool pulled over their eyes, the US government was run by a gang of puppets and short-sighted, knee-jerk yahoos.

Posted at 11:38AM on Jan 29th 2009 by PolarBear

14. Comparing any politician to a guy crash landed a plane with zero fatalities is silly. It would be like comparing Sully to Barack Obama or George Bush.

And technically, to be a true hero you have to willingly risk dying to save other people. Sully was saving his own butt as much as he was saving the lives of the passengers. Doesnt take away from the spectacular job he did. To me the firefighers and cops who raced into the WTC towers to try and rescue people at the imminent risk of their own death were the 100% heroes. People serving in combat zones in the military also fall into that category.

Posted at 11:48AM on Jan 29th 2009 by Lord Xenu

15. Polar bear is one of the conspiracy wackos.

Why did dozens of people report seeing the plane before it crashed into the Pentagon? I guess they were all brainwashed by Karl Rove. Better put on your tinfoil hat lest Karl Rove take control of your brain.

All those conspiracy theories were debunked long ago. Better go finish your bunker in Montana or something.

Posted at 11:49AM on Jan 29th 2009 by Lord Xenu