Manson Gang Hideout -- The Smoldering Remains

31. Spahn Ranch was in Chatsworth, in the Santa Susana Pass.
I went up there after the murders, and went horse back riding up
there.

The Manson Gang had long left or were already in jail.

... but there were still some rough looking guys up there hanging
out. We offered them hashish in lieu of renting the horses but they
wanted the money.

TRUE STORY

Posted at 4:07PM on May 8th 2009 by 420 GIRL

32. The Barker Ranch was NOT owned by any relatives of the Manson family. It is owned by the State park system of California. Manson was caught there becuase they were looking for someone who vandalized the Death Valley Monument. It is VERY difficult to get to. So, even if it did have historical value, it was nearly impossible to find. Plus, it was a big fat dump.

Posted at 4:09PM on May 8th 2009 by Christy

33. DS is right....we're obsessed w/serial killers, it's human nature... we're obsessed w/what we don't fully understand, or things that are, bizarre and out of the ordinary, HOWEVER.... I wouldn't go about re-building the place, that WOULD be a waste of money, let what happened, just happen.... everything happens for a reason, and when we as humans try to interfere w/the 'greater plan' is when sh*t really hits the fan.... yes, it had historical value, still does, but let it be what it is, and leave it at that.... if people want to see it, they can see it the way it is now...

Posted at 4:15PM on May 8th 2009 by eccentric1329

34. christy, to prove how obviously retarted you are... here's som facts for you............

Built by Bluch and Helen Thomason after Bluch retired from the Los Angeles Police Department. After Bluch died, the property was sold to Jim and Kirk Barker. Just beyond the Barker Ranch is the Myers Ranch.The Barker and Myers Ranches are places that became notorious in the national press in December of 1969. In the first edition of Death Valley Jeep Trails, published that year, a local contributor wrote: “During the past year these isolated retreats have been inhabited by a small band of hippies, doing whatever it is hippies do”. Little did they know that these squatters were the Charles Manson "family." It was at the Barker Ranch that Charlie was arrested, although at the time his role in the Tate-LaBianca murders was not yet known. Manson moved his followers into the Barker Ranch sometime in 1968. Mrs.Arlene Barker, who owned the property and whose granddaughter Cathy Gillies was one of Manson’s followers, gave permission for Charlie to camp there. Perhaps she thought he meant only a few days. Manson purportedly had a plan to kill Mrs. Barker and obtain title to the land through Ms. Gilles.

all the facts you need...

Posted at 4:15PM on May 8th 2009 by eccentric1329

35. eccentric - like I'm going to believe you. That shows how idiotic you are. I don't believe everything I read, fool. I've NEVER heard that and I'm not going to be moved by your pompous attitude. Congrats that you know so much about the Manson family because you read up on them. So have thousands of other people. It doesn't make you special in any way.

Posted at 4:24PM on May 8th 2009 by Christy

36. Manson and his freaks should have been put to death a long time ago. Instead, taxpayers ave spent MILLIONS keeping these scumbags alive in the system. What a bunch of useless sacks of flesh they are...murderers and plotters. Kill them off already.

Posted at 4:28PM on May 8th 2009 by ham-a-rama

37. Get um Christy!!!

Posted at 4:35PM on May 8th 2009 by Mary Banilow

38. What groups would want to rebuild this place? It should be destroyed!

Posted at 8:26PM on May 8th 2009 by Kathleen

39. Let it stay in shambles, like the families left behind.

Posted at 6:58PM on May 8th 2009 by Me

40. mike botz/artie help, i can assure you that terri and i are NOT the same person. You are the "moronic idiot" for getting caught in your lies. we all know it, so don't even try to deny it. it just so happened that we were both onto you at the exact same tme and called you on it. then "mysteriously" you quit blabbing for a couple of weeks. you, my dear, are a fool.

Posted at 7:15PM on May 8th 2009 by whynot

41. Why the hell would anyone want to rebuild it? Not only is it a place that is full evil spirits, but even for those who are into that kind of thing, if it's not the ORIGINAL building and stuff, then what are people coming to see? A replica? What's the point?

Posted at 8:03PM on May 8th 2009 by HARDY-HAR-HAR

42. thanks Dawn... between OJ trial, Menendez trial(s), Scott Peterson trial, OctoMom now bleeding this state dry...the tax payers of Cali just don't get a break.... and this man has held the state captive for years now.. just by getting his 3 meals a day...along with all of his cronies....he probably barked orders from prison somehow to make even this happen...

Posted at 8:35PM on May 8th 2009 by ilovetheshowmadmen

43. SorryDrew,you're incorrect,not the artivce. Spahn movie ranch is not Barker Ranch--Spahn is long gone it burned in a fire a few yearsafter a German concern bought it in the 1970s. It's a whole different placethan Barker.

Posted at 9:56PM on May 8th 2009 by rachel

44. Artie Help, I just burst out laughing at your comment.So did my husband, right after
i read it to him. Thanks for the laugh!t pained a hiarious picture in my mind.

Posted at 9:57PM on May 8th 2009 by rachel

45. THIS IS SARAH PALIN'S FAULT!! her high has worn off from burning down her church in wasilla months ago, she now has to burn down the manson ranch. and rumor has in she was mysteriously in Santa Barbara on tuesday when the firest started.
SARAH PALIN / CARRIE PREJEAN 2012!!!

Posted at 10:43PM on May 8th 2009 by slapshot