Second Autopsy Critical in Carradine Death

David CarradineSources tell TMZ the second autopsy of David Carradine's body will be conducted in a matter of days, and two issues are on the line -- cause of death and life insurance.

As for cause of death, here's what we're hearing ... if this is truly a case of auto-erotica, typically people who do this will put a cloth or something between the neck and the skin to avoid marks that would be difficult to explain. There's a picture that was published in a Thai newspaper showing the body hanging. We will not publish it, but we do not see evidence of anything between the neck and rope. To the contrary, the photo shows redness in the right shoulder area, next to the neck.

Another issue -- if this is truly a case of auto-erotica, generally there would be a magazine, video or something of a sexual nature within eyeshot to stimulate arousal. If nothing like that is around, it's suspicious. The photo does not show any obvious signs of sexual material in the area, however there appears to be something that looks like some sort of picture that may have been taped on the wall. We can't see exactly what it is.

Also -- the notion behind auto-erotica is that oxygen is restricted to heighten orgasm, but the subject generally has a ladder, stool or something like it to restore oxygen. The photo does not show a ladder or stool, but the body is almost in a sitting position. We do not know if any items were moved before the picture was taken.

One of the biggest mysteries -- the photo in the Thai newspaper shows that Carradine's hands are tied above his head (which we reported Friday), yet Thai police say no one was with him in the room. The question -- how's that possible?

As for the second autopsy, it's often harder to determine cause of death because the body has already been through a procedure, but the advantage of the second autopsy is that there's more info and, as one source put it, "you can be more focused in terms of what the issues are."

David CarradineNow, as for life insurance -- most policies provide that the policy is void if the cause of death is suicide, but if it's an accidental death insurance companies are not only required to pay out ... some policies provide that the beneficiaries get twice the payout.

Short story .. a lot will be riding on the second autopsy.



Tags: auto-erotica, autopsy, david carradine, DavidCarradine, dead body, DeadBody, death photo, DeathPhoto, hanging, life insurance, LifeInsurance

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31. 0. Here is the actual, uncensored photo if you would like to see it (I vote accidental not suicide):

http://tinyurl.com/carradinephoto

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Nice try the link opens to 'Techtronics.com ' .. advertising for your company ?

Posted at 3:08PM on Jun 7th 2009 by pat

32. I concur; accidental. It's not hard to find the photo - a Google will do it. Very distressing, however, and appears he had been dead for some time. As for the suggestion of a sexual photo - I wondered what that was on the wall (inside closet door) but don't think it's a photo. Not at all nice for the family.
Sucks to be famous.

Posted at 5:10PM on Jun 7th 2009 by critisizer

33. Not too worry Dr Baden will give them the best written autopsy request that money can buy customized to please..

Posted at 3:17PM on Jun 7th 2009 by drmd

34. WHO THE F CARES..He is an actor..UGLY to look at, not a nice man, over paid, dark and evil..IM happy this is a nightmare 4 his weird family...Who the H do they think they are?? He is nothing now but dead, smellie bones and rot like his evil soul..How pathtic and SHAMEFUL for his young children who may be innocent..davy carradine was a total freak show..he always gave us the creeps..WHY?? Cuz of his poor attitude, ugly mug and satanic ways..ISH..

Posted at 3:21PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Barbra

35. Agree, accidental. The photo is very grainy - you would not recognize the body as David Carradine. His arms are above his head (tied) and it looks like he is (was) in a sitting position. He clearly had been dead for some time when photo was taken. Sucks to be a celebrity when something like this happens.

Posted at 3:23PM on Jun 7th 2009 by critisizer

36. The photo is not of David..... can't be does not look like his 72 year old body and he does not have black hair. the Thai rag mag just did that to start rumors and it worked!

Posted at 3:25PM on Jun 7th 2009 by dont be so sure

37. Oh stop TMZ you're getting morbid and sick trying to play Nancy Drew erotica detective at large.

If you look back at photos at Dennis Rader the BTK killer he also tied his hands and took pictures of himself, It's done ok so just stop.
The more this family (and YOU in order to sensationalize) try to clean this up the sicker it's going to get.

Posted at 3:33PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Jesse

38. I'm happy the photo has been published. Why keep this a secret?

Men have to know that your parents, wife, and children will be ashamed of you if you die doing this!

Carradine is a Role Model for NOT doingl this! Its a PSA!

Why hide it?

Posted at 3:35PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Victoria

39. HIGH STEEL hawk AN`t dead it`s a double billion dollar payday.GHOST of FU

Posted at 3:43PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Steel workers union..GHOST of FU

40. http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-267633

The death photo is either too badly censored or is the photo of someone else's death scene. Carradine was a tall, lanky, white, gray-haired man. The photo shows a black-haired, smooth-skinned (and dark-skinned), youthful, oriental-physiqued man. The photo is also taken from a perspective designed to spare the sensibilities of the public. Consequently not nearly enough visual information is evident to positively identify the body as that of Carradine. If it is the body of Carradine then the tabloid shot itself in the foot, because any credible party can deny it is Carradine. This is what happens when media censorship shapes the news. Journalism becomes worthless.

Posted at 3:43PM on Jun 7th 2009 by blue eyes

41. He died beating off, he choked himself accidentally. Just go ahead do a second autopsy, call in the F.B.I. and humiliate him even more. You cant even have peace in death. Like I would want people to remember me as poor Joy died playing with her snatch, and choked herself!!!! Just let it be. So what! Who cares?

Posted at 3:51PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Joy

42. leave the country fake a death make billions and billions sounds like it is working just fine,STUDIO EX marketing department beat the dead horse into the ground SOP.Many many half bros up on those steel I beams REAL AMERICAN can now live the HIGH life over seas.

Posted at 3:54PM on Jun 7th 2009 by BILLION Dollar payday fake it FU

43. THIS WHOLE STORY BLOWS THE BIG ONE!!!

REALLY SAD TO DWELL ON THIS....BUT THOSE WHORING PRESS FOLKS GOTS TO MAKE THE MONEY....

Posted at 4:04PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Roughdaddy

44. irresponsible TMZ!


" typically people who do this ...

Posted at 4:05PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Jane Doe

45. If he was alone - how did he tie his hands above his head? thats kinda strange dont ya think?

Posted at 4:09PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Karen

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