Second Autopsy Critical in Carradine Death

David CarradineSources tell TMZ the second autopsy of David Carradine's body will be conducted in a matter of days, and two issues are on the line -- cause of death and life insurance.

As for cause of death, here's what we're hearing ... if this is truly a case of auto-erotica, typically people who do this will put a cloth or something between the neck and the skin to avoid marks that would be difficult to explain. There's a picture that was published in a Thai newspaper showing the body hanging. We will not publish it, but we do not see evidence of anything between the neck and rope. To the contrary, the photo shows redness in the right shoulder area, next to the neck.

Another issue -- if this is truly a case of auto-erotica, generally there would be a magazine, video or something of a sexual nature within eyeshot to stimulate arousal. If nothing like that is around, it's suspicious. The photo does not show any obvious signs of sexual material in the area, however there appears to be something that looks like some sort of picture that may have been taped on the wall. We can't see exactly what it is.

Also -- the notion behind auto-erotica is that oxygen is restricted to heighten orgasm, but the subject generally has a ladder, stool or something like it to restore oxygen. The photo does not show a ladder or stool, but the body is almost in a sitting position. We do not know if any items were moved before the picture was taken.

One of the biggest mysteries -- the photo in the Thai newspaper shows that Carradine's hands are tied above his head (which we reported Friday), yet Thai police say no one was with him in the room. The question -- how's that possible?

As for the second autopsy, it's often harder to determine cause of death because the body has already been through a procedure, but the advantage of the second autopsy is that there's more info and, as one source put it, "you can be more focused in terms of what the issues are."

David CarradineNow, as for life insurance -- most policies provide that the policy is void if the cause of death is suicide, but if it's an accidental death insurance companies are not only required to pay out ... some policies provide that the beneficiaries get twice the payout.

Short story .. a lot will be riding on the second autopsy.



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61. Maybe he had to many cocktails and lost control. What an idiot! AND NOW HE'S DEAD!

Posted at 11:14PM on Jun 7th 2009 by showgirl

62. Hey Harvey...You should know it is illegal in most states to exclude suicide as a cause of death on a life insurance policy...those states who do allow exclusion do so for only the first couple of years of having a policy...It's the law.

Posted at 11:37PM on Jun 7th 2009 by chillax

63. For god's sake, TMZ. TOO. MUCH. INFORMATION. I'm surprised you don't just post the photo. It can't be any worse than the 9-1-1 calls you feel the need to post all the time!

Posted at 12:21AM on Jun 8th 2009 by JackieLynn

64. It's too bad ,If the photo shows him hanging in the closet with his hands tied above the head,

Posted at 1:37AM on Jun 8th 2009 by concasseur

65. I said days ago this is a Bdsm situation , obviously there was a Mistress present, ie; fishnet stockings. As a Mistress you may have a client put a noose around his neck, not to cut off air but in obedience to the Mistress, just as putting a collar on a slave. there are tugs on the collar but only for obedience. I wonder is there were any marks on his body, as from a whip, or crop. Mistresses are not in the business of offing there clients, they would then cut off a source of income.
I do not believe he would do that to himself, there would be no pleasure there, if it was the auto erotic thing there would still be another person present. No Mistress or person in a proffessional capacity would let the client die, thats sick
Sounds like who ever he hired was very inexperienced and didn't know when to stop. Unless he would have told her don't stop, then that would be homicide on the other persons side. Any pro in the industry would know better, and when to stop.
There is a code in the industry, you don't cross the line. Bangkok, who knows, he was stupid and probably trusting the Mistress or whoever, now he's gone. Thailand doesn't give a s--t I'm sure. Juat another sick americam.
Gone for what? If he did'nt die in the states doing this for years, think, what makes this situation different?
I hope he doesn't have any children, if he does it's a million times more sad. Feel so sad for his wife and brother and parents. He comes from a Dynasty of great actors like Drew Barymore's family.

Posted at 3:01AM on Jun 8th 2009 by Elena

66. Whatever David Carradine's choices in his lifetime, he had reaped the consequences of his actions, whatever habits he had developed through the years.

"His beliefs become his thoughts. His thoughts become his words. Hs words become his actions. His actions become his habits. His habits become his values. His values become his destiny." Mahatma Gandhi

Posted at 3:10AM on Jun 8th 2009 by howtragic

67. The one poster who mentioned the hands being tied as suspicious was dead on. Auto-erotic asphyxiation is an enhancement to masturbation, not a replacement for it. With his hands tied, he wouldn't have been able to stimulate himself. Thus, either there was someone else there to provide the stimulation (and if so, why crammed into the closet?), or it's not auto-erotic asphyxiation at all.

Posted at 4:46AM on Jun 8th 2009 by Kitty Tanaka

68. Bailout 2008, a poem by David Jeffrey:

Like a bloodied warrior,
laying broken and torn.

Like a dying soldier, hopeless and forlorn.

But the blood, it be green,
the color of money.

And the soldier is an economy,
and it is anything but funny.

Broken are it’s people and shattered are their dreams.

Thanks to the ultra rich and their full proof schemes.

It is a tragedy with more pain to come.

Finance will be Hell, and their wills will be done.

Posted at 6:46AM on Jun 8th 2009 by D. Sanchez

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