Carradine Tried Playing it Safe

David CarradineWe've now seen a clear, uncensored version of the photo of David Carradine's body, and it reveals a powerful clue reinforcing the theory his death was an accident.

The rope around his neck is knotted in front -- common in the bondage community. We checked around with experts, who say a knot in the front is a telltale sign someone is not doing themself in. The frontal knot makes it fairly easy to quickly escape if they start losing consciousness.



Tags: accidental death, AccidentalDeath, auto erotic, AutoErotic, david carradine, DavidCarradine

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31. 28. all the speculation.....he was into what he was into......72 and wanting or needing to get off......wow...i should be so lucky to live that long and die doing what i wanted.......as for the speculation there are alot of "theories" out there.......but why all the hub-bub?...it just went toooo far.....no murder...no suicide....no secret martial arts "hit"....why isn't anyone asking? was the door chained or flip barred from the inside?...were there any porn pix found in print or video?....thailand is like vegas only a thousnd times more corrupt......they screw children there !!!!!!!it's a pity that he will forever be a punchline.......we ALL have our "things" that we each hold secret...ALL OF US !...........hope you found peace D.C....always was a fan and always will be.........

Posted at 5:05PM on Jun 9th 2009 by bitchonheels

Got news for ya, numbnutts, they screw kids in Vegas too... I've seen cars drive right up tp you on the street with 8 year old girls for sale... probably kidnap victims... vegas is UUUggly... wake-up... it's in this country too.

Posted at 5:35PM on Jun 9th 2009 by Hadit

32. Well, then apparently "fairly easy" isn't easy enough!

Posted at 9:49PM on Jun 9th 2009 by HARDY-HAR-HAR

33. Like TMZ knows anything about playing it safe. You saw a high resolution of what? His backside? Hellllllllo TMZ those pictures of "David Carradine hanging" are FAKE, BOGUS, PHONY. I cannot believe for one moment that anyone would believe they are indeed real. The body is dark skinned, and a completely different body structure than Carradines. Then of course you have the flimsy, cheapo hotel in the picture. The Swissotel in Bangkok is a LUXURY hotel, they don't even HAVE rooms that are this cheap. You don't need a "high resolution" image to tell it's a fake. Even the Thai newspapers are calling it a fake at best, or a reenactment. See for yourselves....http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/thai-rath-photos-of-dead-david-carradine-fake-see-here_100202481.html

And see what the REAL Swissotel of Bangkok looks like...doesn't look like that cheap hotel room does it? http://www.swissotel.com/EN/Destinations/Thailand/Swissotel+Nai+Lert+Park/HOTEL+HOME/Gallery/Rooms

Posted at 5:55PM on Jun 9th 2009 by TMZisfullofshit

34. to # 38...i was not exaulting vegas...been there...i was making a point about the way it is (was) over there......i was there in may '06 .......was is mind boggling and sick ? yes...did i have 1 of the best times of my life so far? YESSSSS!..........but if you feel the need to bombast me to make yourself feel better...that's ok.....i comment from time to time on tmz and i'll be here for you............

Posted at 5:59PM on Jun 9th 2009 by bitchonheels

35. Someone Killed Bill.

Posted at 6:07PM on Jun 9th 2009 by Brian Evans

36. Since TMZ seen the uncensored pic -- dont this mean TMZ needs retract the stupid ass story about the fishnets and wig?? do your homework TMZ before posting hurtful and untrue stories.

Posted at 6:08PM on Jun 9th 2009 by Karen

37. I really wish I didn't know this about him. I don't need to. I'm glad that when I keel, not too many people will care why/how and it certainly shouldn't make the internet where people who don't know me can trash my character for what they perceive to be perversions or character flaws. Poor Caradine family...I'm sorry we're doing this to you.

Posted at 7:57PM on Jun 9th 2009 by pj

38. 30. Why is a gossip site getting an uncensored photo of a dead body at all, but especially in an FBI investigation

Posted at 5:31PM on Jun 9th 2009 by Odd

@#30, Odd

WTF??? The picture is ALL OVER the internet....a hotel employee who was in the room snapped it (probably with a cellphone)...and sold it for $$$. Why do you think the paps run around taking pictures of celebrities?? If it is a person that is even SOMEWHAT recognizable (i.e. famous person) in a compromising position , the picture is gonna be sold for a lot of $$$$, that is the way it works. The tabloid's who sell their rags at the checkout stand get their $$$ back from sales of their mag. it is a BUSINESS to them. The only way for these rags to go out of business is if people would stop buying them...(unfortunately that is not gonna happen...everybody likes to slow down and gawk at a train wreck)

What is even worst, the Carradine family can hire all the lawyers they want, maybe they will get a settlement out of the Thai paper that bought the pic, but the damage has been done with THE INTERNET. There is no governing body over the internet unless you have hacked someones computer or are cyber-stalking them,(don't even know if that legislation has passed), then the FBI can get involved, if someone posts all their personal business or pictures on their myspace, facebook, etc... anybody can copy and paste it and there is NOTHING that can be done about it cuz the person or person's put the info out there, call your local FBI office in the largest town closest to you, they will tell you.

Posted at 10:25PM on Jun 9th 2009 by Patricia

39. 27. As a Dr.,I am going to keep pointing out that until THE FBI and Dr.Michael Bodin investigate and do a second autopsy on Mr.Carradine.We don't know what happened to him.I wold hope that my own famile would call in the "Big" guns if something happened weird like that 2 me.Until,the truth comes out-can't we give his family some privacy? I see families in grief everyday and they don't even have to deal w wild.unfounded accusations.If it was his fault that this happened,then the TRUTH will prevail.

Posted at 4:59PM on Jun 9th 2009 by ROBIN BURD

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@ #27 ROBIN

It is DR. MICHAEL M. BADEN, M.D.
He is a medical doctor and board-certified forensic pathologist.
Dr. Baden received his medical degree from New York University School of Medicine in 1959.

He is married to Linda Kenney-Baden, an attorney, and has four children.
Michael Baden and Linda Kenney have written the thriller "Remains Silent."

Dr. Michael Baden was the Chief Medical Examiner for the City of New York from 1978 to 1979.

Dr. Baden has been a consulting/lead pathologist and an expert witness on a number of high profile cases and investigations including:

* John Kennedy - chairman of the Forensic Pathology Panel of the House Select Committee on Assassinations
* O.J. Simpson criminal trial
* Czar Nicholas II - investigated the remains discovered in the 1990s in Siberia
* Sid Vicious's death
* Claus Von Bülow criminal trial
* John Belushi's death
* Lisa McPherson's death
* Phil Spector's murder trial for the defense. Baden was reportedly paid $250,000. Baden's wife was legal
co-counsel for Mr. Spector at the time.
^^
^^
( I THINK EVERY KNEW THAT IDIOT SPECTOR WASN'T GOING TO GET OFF)
and
* Sergeant Evan Vela's court martial

Dr. Baden maintains a private forensic pathology consulting practice and is the co-director of the New York State Police Medicolegal Investigation Unit.

Also it is not going to be an easy autopsy since David Carradine's body has already been autopsied once, however
Dr. Baden knows what he is doing and has done second autopsies many times before.

Dr. Cyril Harrison Wecht, is a forensic pathologist too, he is a clinical professor at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine and an adjunct professor of law at Duquesne University.
He is also married to an attorney, Sigrid Wecht, in Pittsburgh.

Get this, he has 4 kids:
a judge
a neurosurgeon
an OB/GYN
and a writer

Dr. Wecht, is considered more "controversial" because of HIS findings in the Elvis Presley, and JonBenét Ramsey,
cases. Dr. Wecht’s medical opinion of JonBenet Ramsey’s death was likely an accidental result of a "sex game” committed by her father.
By everything being reported about Mr. Carradine, these "sex games" unfortunately are looking more and more common.

Posted at 10:25PM on Jun 9th 2009 by Alexis Martin

40. I really appreciate that TMZ is trying to do the right thing. They are investigating objectively, interviewing people in the bondage community, etc, to really see what happened [while not posting, the most graphic photos] - it's not a normal death. I love David Carradine and so do a lot of other people,. Careful disclosure to respect the family is a good thing ... but also, this is an awesome dude that died too soon. I hope TMZ continues to investigate and report with sensitivity as they have.

Posted at 10:29PM on Jun 9th 2009 by s

41. I don't understand the worlds "need to know" mentality. For Gods sake let the man rest in peace.
He wasn't out there raping or killing. The only one he was intentionally hurting was himself. I'm sure if he knew he would be
"found out" and embarassing his family he would have thought twice. Anyway, doesn't everyone have something to hide?

Posted at 10:53PM on Jun 9th 2009 by sheila315

42. I'm just going to leave this here...

EON8.com

You decide what to do with it

Posted at 11:30PM on Jun 9th 2009 by Carradine photos

43. EON8.com .....................Strange and interesting website.
sheila-

Posted at 8:52PM on Jun 10th 2009 by sheila315

44. Wheres the pic?

Posted at 3:24AM on Jun 11th 2009 by they are all going to laugh at you

45. You people are the most HATEFUL, insensitive, hypocritical MONSTERS that I have ever seen on the Internet ! Casting stones at somebody as if you are all ANGELS of perfection? Whatever David did or did not do in his personal life HE DID NOT DESERVE TO BE MURDERED ! Thailand is NOT one to criticize ANYBODY when they promote child prostitution, and child trafficking ! Where's your outcry about THAT?! You people are such JERKS ! There's NO WAY A Thai woman could have done that to David ! Have you seen what Thai women look like? They are TINY ! I would venture to say that a FEW MUSCLE MEN strung him up ! Had to ! To overpower Dave like that there had to be more than one person involved ! If you people didn't like David Carradine then DON'T COMMENT ABOUT HIM ON THE NET AND ASSASSINATE HIS CHARACTER ! Many people in this country are into rough sex, but don't admit it, so don't act like David Carradine was the only one !

Posted at 8:02AM on Jun 11th 2009 by Kristine Meneguzzo

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