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Jon Vs. TLC -- Every Story has 8 Sides

10/1/2009 1:34 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Sources connected with the production of "Jon & Kate Plus 8" "Kate Plus 8" tell TMZ all the hoo-hah has to do with $$$.

Sources on both sides tell us Jon Gosselin has been asking for his exit papers from the show for several months. Production sources say they were willing to continue giving Jon a full paycheck and not put him on the show, but there was one string attached -- that he couldn't do any other show without the permission of TLC. BTW, that's a standard condition in TV-land.

Production sources say Jon's lawyer was demanding that TLC let Jon do any show he wanted but TLC wouldn't budge. Production sources say Jon's lawyer then threatened to shut down production by claiming the show wasn't good for the kids, and that's just what happened.

But sources connected with Jon tell us Jon had been complaining for months about his kids being on the show and that the kids themselves were complaining. These sources say Jon was blindsided when TLC released a statement that the show would be called "Kate Plus 8" and that the result would be that the kids would have to be on camera a lot more.

Production sources say no way would the kids be on the camera more because it's just "Kate Plus 8."


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He makes me sick.

1785 days ago


When they rename the show to simply PLUS 8, let me know.

1785 days ago

Chris is fug    

KATE IS crazy and the BIGGEST hyppocryte out of the two. Get those kids off the air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1785 days ago

Chris is fug    

Once the money started rolling in, the Gosselin marriage blew up. The kids will be forced to work FOR THEIR PARENTS until they are old enough to realize theyre being taken advantage of. What can J& K possibly tell them to justify the misery, the divorce and their broken home? "momy needs her plastic surgery" and "daddy needs his Gucci's"?

Both of these greedy idots are making their kids pay for their need for money and fame.
Kate makes me sick. TLC pull the plug on the show. Cmon!!

1785 days ago


I only hope that Jon wins in keeping his kids off of TV....whatever his motives.

If Kate wants a career in TV, fine. But her kids can not make an informed choice at 5 and 9.... nor could they any earlier. Experts say it's bad for kids to live their life on film... heck, just look at the Loud family--and they had nowhere the exposure that the Gosselin kids have had. Look at the Dionne Quints. Look at the numerous childhood stars who've turned out horribly.

For those of you who doubt Jon's parenting skills, I suggest you actually watch the show--from the beginning. He's 1000x a better parent than Kate.... regardless of who he choses to date after Kate ended their marriage over a year ago. Kate has serious rage and control issues.... not somebody who should be around kids unsupervised. And it's horrendous to think that none of those kids had individual paychecks from TMZ.

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1785 days ago


For all the Kate supporters, I have a question for you.

Say, TLC wins and Kate plus 8 is a go, but in December, it gets cancelled because of the ratings, would you be upset and if so, why?

Ratings can make or break a show. If I am wrong, please someone correct me.

1785 days ago


I remember seeing an episode, when Jon and Kate was on the couch and she hit him or pushed in the face. If I am not mistaking it was when they were sitting down. I was like Kate just hit Jon on TV.

I am a woman and although the media don't want to shine a light on it, a lot of woman are abusive to men as well and how Kate treated Jon on TV was abuse. No one should put a crown on her head and make it seem as if it was okay for her to treat her husband like that. I am sure a lof married women on here that agrees Jon needed to be treated like that, wouldn't like their husband treating them like Kate did Jon.

Of course, people would have complain if Jon was wearing the abusive shows on TV. They would wonder why TLC would have an abusive husband on TV.

I guess TLC likes when a woman is abusive to her husband. Amy on Little People Big World talks crazy to her husband as well. She belittles him too.

I don't like to see a man or woman treat each other wrong.

1785 days ago


Isn't "penelty" spelled "penalty"? Jon, get it straight!

1785 days ago


I think that these two ADULT parent's need a GOD given person who is not there for the fame or mulah to go over with sincere interest of the kid's and advise these two confused parent's and give them a Bible to read. If this continues later in life we well be reading about the drug infested kids...I feel so sorry for them.

1785 days ago

Jason Blizniak    

not sure if ya guys caught it
but the sign Jon Gosselin put up on front gate
had the word penalty spelled wrong lol
was penelty makes that guy look even worse
if possible

1785 days ago


have to agree with Carl. 'tis true that jon's activities have appeared immature, but he is still more of a parent to those 8 kids than kate. watch the old (pre-separation craziness) episodes for goodness sake - he treats them like people and has conversations with them. in the old (pre-separation craziness) episodes, kate is consistently seen berating jon and barking at the kids...not at all interested in any interaction, particularly with the boys. she is not a saint.

1785 days ago


i don't know what the big deal what, they have 8 kids. my parents had 10 and didn't need a reality show to raise us and put us all through college and grad school. jon and kate need real jobs and those kids need a chance at having a real life. i'm tired of kate acting like she's the victim, when in reality she's a manipulative b*tch. lucky for her, jon's an idiot. their childish approach to the whole situation exhibit their real priorities and it's not the children. at this point, whether jon is doing this for him or the children, i think it's the best thing to come out of all of this mess. TLC only cares about their ratings.

1785 days ago


"IT'S ABOUT TIME TLC!!!!!Geeze..does it take ruining 8 kids lives to see this show is a HAS BEEN, WASHED UP MESS!! Screw doing Kate plus 8, she is just as bad! Please pull everything and move on with some decent family programming! Jon has always wanted to stop this show and focus on his kids...he said that yrs ago but God forbid Kate actually do what is best for the means her CASH FLOW IS GONE! KATE THE BIATCH is playing everyone, she is playing the "victim" role. She is not stupid. She knows exactly what she is doing to make Jon look like a douche bag! PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!

1785 days ago


They keep telling us its all about the kids, bunk, its about the fame, fortune-money and all the trappings that go along with it. We make mistakes, they made their money, had their five minutes, time to move on, it is really all baout the children. Jon sowed his wild oats, got away from that opressive atmosphere, now he is coming back to earth. Kate still wnats her five minutes, she is clearly exploiting the children for her fame and fortune, let it go Kate. Jon and Kate should be talking, get this resolved, move on, quit TLC, find another line of work. Oh yes, don't forget all the perks derived from their fame, those add up to money for both. Have they formed trusts for the children on their own? Important point if they care about the children so much, as much as they tell you.

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