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Michael Jackson's Mom Cleans House

4/27/2010 5:00 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

TMZ has learned ... Katherine Jackson is downsizing the number of grandchildren in her San Fernando Valley mansion -- and the stun gun incident was the catalyst.


Sources with direct knowledge of the situation tell TMZ ...  Katherine has told Alejandra Genevieve Oaziaza -- who is currently living at the estate, along with two of her kids by Randy Jackson and two others by Jermaine Jackson -- that she must take the kids and move out of the estate next week, because supervising seven children is just too much for the 79-year-old grandmother.

But don't think Katherine is heartless.  It's the opposite.  She's moving Alejandra, along with Jaafar, Jermajesty, Donte and Randy Jr. to a San Fernando Valley condo owned by the estate.

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We're told the move was prompted by the stun gun incident last month. TMZ broke the story that 13-year-old Jaafar bought a stun gun online and fired it in the house.  Sources say Jaafar pointed the gun at two of Michael's kids, but the family denies that. 

The L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services came to the estate, took the gun and interviewed people in the home, and it became apparent seven kids were too much for Katherine to handle. 

So as of next week, Prince, Paris and Blanket will have the run of the mansion, unobstructed.


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1081.

Cher    

Katherine the Great 2.2....
-#1060...: Not sure about skin deterioration, mymjj, but it sounds feasible.As for Michael's fingers, they were purplish and pale, but I thought he said he wore the tape on his fingers to remember all of the hurt or lost children in the world. I never heard an explanation for the brace other than it being due to injury...supposedly. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if the tape and brace was due to the Lupus. It's vintage Michael to turn something negative into a positive cause!
-#1062,1063, et.al.: I don't dwell on the plastic surgery much regarding Michael. Although I loved him in his natural state, I'll honestly admit I think it enhanced his features up to the "Dangerous" era. After that, it seems there were a few rough spots where you could see his skin had suffered but he still looked gorgeous! I think the only times I had an issue with his face was the one in the "You rock my world" video and the 30th Anniversary concerts because it looked so stiff...like a mask. But even still, I loved him because of WHO he was, and thank God he didn't do anything to change that body of his...
I don't think a lot of people realize that some of his change WAS due to aging. Your face will change with age unless you've found the fountain of youth. Thing is, Michael was just trying to look good for us half the time and all he got was beat up for it. BTW--I think he used his share of Botox in the later years. If you notice on TII, when he's at the auditions, his eyes and forehead look real taut--his eyes look almost asian because of it, but in all the other parts of the film, he looks different.
As for that Karen Faye, I've stated before that I would love to sue her myself. Even if Michael begged for extra makeup and lipstick, it was her duty to make sure he knew what a mistake that was. For instance, I would think if she showed him a pic of his face in that "Smooth Criminal" club scene, he would've never wanted to wear lipstick again. His actual face looked good--too much powder maybe, but he had the same look as from the "Bad" era--with aging, except that lipstick just ruined it.
-#1067: Mymjj, I totally agree. That Ebony shoot proved that Michael could have another career if he wanted...as a FASHION MODEL! I know he watched America's Next Top Model because he heard that one of the girls from the 1st season had dreams of meeting him and had tried to get into Neverland but couldn't. Michael set up a meeting with her and made her dreams come true. When she was asked about how she felt about not winning AMNT, she said she didn't care because MICHAEL JACKSON called her and she met him and that's something none of the other girls could claim....what a KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOUR!
-BTW: Mymjj, don't forget those scorching hot pics he took for Vanity Fair...GORGEOUS! In Karen Faye's defense, I know she was the makeup artist for those pics and probably did the Ebony shoot, too. I think her strong suit maybe in Print photos, but as a Makeup artist, she still should be able to know how to apply makeup for the various mediums.
To be continued....SIMMERING.........

1605 days ago
1082.

Cher    

Katherine the Great 2.3....
And now FINALLY:
-#1069: Thanks for pointing that out Nan, I didn't watch TMZ live because I avoid watching anything with that Judas Klein in it. Anyhoo, I'm not surprised they had shopped the story around. Guess that tells us a lot about that Tabloid show--glad I don't watch those anymore.
I think you're onto something--there are too many witnesses who saw Michael coming in and out of his office to dispute it, so now he's saying Michael went there for this idiot Jason...but he also has to explain why the fans smelled ether on Michael. As I stated before, I knew my suspicions on Klein were right. He went on every news show who would have him telling his story to cover his tracks. Thing about him is, he doesn't even read as being honest--his eyes constantly shift and he talks in circles like a weasel caught in a trap...I think he knows the LADA has something on him and it's only a matter of time before it comes to a head...
-#1070: Tellit, thanks so much for your persistence on this Lopez story. I agree that something's rotten in Denmark--he knew something and was probably going to spill it or maybe he was trying to pull out, but somebody stopped him cold, literally. He was Michaels Music lawyer so it was probably connected to the Sony-ATV catalog...more and more that thing is like having the "monkey's paw." And he was involved in the "Neverland Circle", too. Now there's a story, some investigative reporter--if we have any left, should jump on that train. Then again, maybe they're too scared. After all, we haven't heard anything from Tohme, AKA "The Cleaner" in awhile.
-#1091: by myself, You are totally right on this. I also feel that Michael recognized his enemies by the last year or so of his life that's why so many heads rolled in the "4th quarter". the only mystery is Peter Lopez--wonder what he did that made Michael tell him to "kick rocks"? Then again, maybe Michael wasn't the one who fired him. I personally don't think there were many who worked for him that were on the up and up--except for Evvy Tavasci, who still refuses to spill anything about Michael but did return to help as the archivist for TII. She seems to be a genuinely good friend who still wishes him well. BTW--she was fired in the beginning of the 2005 trials by Randy or Raymone Bain if I'm not mistaken, not Michael.
Bottom line, I agree that Michael was no fool and had his reasons for everything he did. As for the frenemies in his life, there were still a few he allowed to hang out for some reason...possibly because they did provide a service that he needed such as Klein's work on his face,etc.
-#1102: Tone thanks for bringing that point out. However I want to say speaking for myself that I love EVERYTHING about Michael and that WOULD NOT change if I found out he was gay. Would I be happy about it? NO, in all honesty, but I would still love him because of the beautiful person he was.
My problem with the gay issue is that I just don't think it's true. There is NOTHING to support it except for a lot opinions straight out of the dark ages concerning the way he looked or dressed and oh yeah, his voice--how can a man sing that high...as if most of the tenors in the Opera world don't exist.
I've never been attracted to a gay man that I knew of, there's something I usually can pick up from gays that barrs any sexual attraction...I just usually have a good rapport with them...even the ones who are playing the "thug" role. I have ALWAYS been attracted to Michael...and I still am...
Bottom line, I just have a thing about justice--I hate to see anyone falsely accused of anything based on a bunch of trumped up BS. Why can't people just accept the fact that he was a normal genius, megastar, icon, MAN???
-1099, : Chico, you are my hero tonight! OMG, I never saw that connection--they're using the Jason thing as a cover up for the real story on LOPEZ! I have to get more info on this. I plan to do some real research to figure out what this connection is. If anybody else comes up with more, I'd love to hear it...I think an expose of this death can blow the investigation wide open! (Tellit, I have to google that RadarOnline.)
-#1109: Tellit, I thought I remembered Londell McMillan and possibly Brian Oxman making statements about MJ3 on CNN and other news programs.
Guys this Lopez thing really should be our hot topic until we get to the bottom of it! Thanks Tellit and Chico...others PLEASE HELP!!
No Peace till Justice!
MICHAEL--IL.O.V.E.U4EVER and MISS-U-SO-MUCH!!!!

1605 days ago
1083.

MiMi    

Chico and Tellit



Have either of you read anything pertaining to why Michael let go Peter Lopez and exactly when that ocurred?



On another note, here is one out of many tweets made by Raffles Van Exel regarding the suicide of his friend Peter Lopez.




"Did I miss a sign, could I have prevented it of happening, or is there much more behind this? Wish I could turn off my brain, and sleep."

1605 days ago
1084.

AMIE    

way to go momma jackson make the daddies to these kids stand up to the plate and be a father istead of a donor.

1605 days ago
1085.

Raven    

actually yes that is alejandra. halima does not look like that
stop trippen i can see why she would move them out. She shouldn't be taking care of her grandchildren ((besides michael's kids)) as much as she is. Their mother and father should be doing that. You're suposed to visit your grandmother not be there 24/7 unless you have to under cir***stances. Katherine loves her family but she has to think of herself too.

1605 days ago
1086.

Lisa from France    

Author: MiMi
Comment:
Chico and Tellit



Have either of you read anything pertaining to why Michael let go Peter Lopez and exactly when that ocurred?
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Maybe someone can put it any better. Michael fired him for '90, in the middle or end of "Dangerous Tour" when Michael sold the recording of the show to HBO, Lopez was out.

1605 days ago
1087.

mymjj5    

To: J



Kick azz and take more names girl!

1605 days ago
1088.

mymjj5    

i know, i know..... it's Mandela.....not Mandella.....

1605 days ago
1089.

Lisa from France    

ATTENTION!!!!!!
FOR UNITED STATES.
PLEASE ONLY 24 HS, TO READ URGENTLY....
I RECEIVE IN FACEBOOK AND TWETTER:
( You copy the link)
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1 - 3
Regarding Alicia Jacobs and her story for ExtraTV with Jason Pfeiffer



EVERYONE LISTEN UP!!!!!! I HAVE NEW INFO ON ALICIA JACOBS. OK, SO I WAS LOOKING IN HER @ REPLIES ON TWITTER AND I SAW A FEW PEOPLE TWEETING "EXTRA" AND DEFENDING HER. EXAMPLE:
http://twitter.com/JayLink_/status/13179053116
NOW, THIS MAN HAS HIS OWN RADIO SHOW OR SOMETHING AND HE'S IN A BAND. APPARENTLY HE'S ALSO FRIEND...S WITH ALICIA. I GUESS SHE CALLED FOR BACK UP. HE WILL BE FEATURING HER ON SUNDAY ON HIS SHOW. THIS IS HIS TWEET
http://twitter.com/JayLink_/status/13178918053

1605 days ago
1090.

Lisa from France    

2 - 3
WHEN I SAW THIS I IMMEDIATELY WENT ON HIS WEBSITE AND SAW A CONTACT NUMBER. I CALLED HIM AT 2 IN THE MORNING AND WE TALKED. I EXPLAINED THAT WHAT ALICIA IS DOING IS WRONG AND IT IS *NOT* HER PLACE TO BE AIRING OUT HIS LAUNDRY. MICHAEL JACKSON IS NOT GAY AND EVEN IF HE *WAS*, ITS NOT OUR PLACE TO KNOW IT! HE DIDN'T WANT US TO KNOW IT, SO WHO DOES ALICIA THINK SHE IS "OUTTING" HIM??? SHE IS JUST USING THIS STORY AS A MEANS OF GETTING HER FOOT IN THE DOOR, AND MJ FANS WILL BE DAMNED IF THEY'RE GONNA LET A 2 BIT, FLY BY NIGHT GOSSIP REPORTER DEFACE HIS LEGACY. SO ANYWAY, HE SAID HE'D PASS THE MESSAGE ON TO HER SO THAT SHE COULD KNOW HOW THE FANS ARE FEELING. I DON'T SEE HOW SHE WOULDN'T KNOW BY NOW, SINCE WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR THIS FOR OVER 48 HOURS. NOW, HE SAID THAT EXTRA DROPPED THE STORY BUT HE AND OTHERS ARE TWEETING "EXTRA" THAT HE WANTS TO SEE IT. SHE HAS SEVERAL MINIONS BACKING HER.
YOU SEE BECAUSE NOW THAT EXTRA DROPPED IT, SHE'S GOING TO OTHER SOURCES TO CONTINUE SPREADING HER FAKE STORY. SHE WILL BE ON HIS 'WEBCAST' ON SUNDAY.
HERE IS HIS WEBSITE, WHERE HIS WEBCAST WILL MOST LIKELY AIR ON SUNDAY. WE MUST LISTEN AND WE MUST CALL IN AND TELL THIS EVIL WITCH OFF. I AM PASSING THIS ON TO YOUR SITE IN HOPES THAT YOU WILL SPREAD THIS AND JOIN ME IN FIGHTING THIS THING THROUGH. WE MUST STICK TOGETHER FOR OUR ANGEL. HERE IS HIS WEBSITE:
http://www.deathandtaxesmusic.net/



Here is apparently where he is going to have his webcast show from 5-8 PM PST
http://16.todhd.com/landing.php



We need to stop this woman in her tracks!
Please spread the word about this!

1605 days ago
1091.

Lisa from France    

3 - 3



For some reason the status links are protected and don't show up, but you can visit his twitter directly here and see.



http://twitter.com/JayLink_



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http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=344751095929



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http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/6597886#utm_campaign=unknown&utm_source=6597886&utm_medium=social
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LOOK, PLEASSSSS

1605 days ago
1092.

mymjj5    

Hello to Everyone!




It amazes me how over the years, people would say they never really saw Michael with a woman. Huh? Well you hardly "ever" saw or see a rap artist with a woman either. With rap artists, usually its an all guy thing when they're out posing for pictures or just hanging.



Often times, just like Michael Jackson, you primarily see a rap artist with a woman or other women in their videos. As with all song writers and music artists, their work is usually an extension of themselves. Yet only Micheal was labeled with all the name calling and unfounded accusations. (even with their multi million dollar contracts, i cannot name any a-list women who accompany rap artists anywhere, anytime for anything.) (j-z and B don't count nor Will and jada).



Then again Michael was a man with the message of peace. Which made him a much easier target. A rap artist (not all) had the potential to "git widtcha and SCRAP!"....Yall Know!

1605 days ago
1093.

Lisa from France    

Hi Lisa
El 02 de mayo a las 14:55 Responder
The site for the webacast has issues to register, but he said he was working on it to fix it, so please keep checking back and trying.



http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2F16.todhd.com%2Flanding.php&h=e8514
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Ok. I'm listening
Thank Karla Jorge

Lisa

1605 days ago
1094.

TheBusyLady    

The fans who truly love Michael, would love him even if he WAS bisexual. So, the people who are trying to defame him is only causing Michael to be loved even more. Their efforts to destroy this man's Legacy is actually having the opposite affect, and none of them seem intelligent enough to know it. Attacking Michael just causes his fans to defend him. His fans have turned out to be his best friends, and the ONLY peple who are making an effort to protect him, and his name.



Dr. Kline has proved to be a jerk. Michael trusted this man, personally, I believe he trusted the Doctor too much. Who kept introducing Mike to these shady characters? I have a feeling that Dr. Kline is going to be a problem, in the future. There's no denying the fact that he was involved with Michaels first two children. There's no denying it, at this point. That fact is VERY obvious, now. It's just a matter of time before Dr. Kline will make sure everyone knows it, too. He wants Michael's money, and he wants the publicity that comes from a story of this magitude. He will have his moment of stardom, at Michael's expense. I wish Michael would have handled all of his children's birth as he did with Blanket. If he had known what type of person Kline really is, I'm sure Michael would have handled this whole situation differently. In the future, Dr. Kline is going to be a problem for the Jackson family. He isn't going to stop at slandering Michael.



Michael knew that something was wrong, and he was in the process of trying to remove some people from his life. The problem is, he had allowed the wrong group to become too involved in his personal and professional life. He didn't realize that some of the people he was dealing with were as bad as any maffia hit men. Michael was worth at least a Billion dollars, and they were not going to be pushed out of his life. Especially the one who was stealing from Mike. His life had become intertwined with some serious people, and Mike was afraid of them. That's why he was taking medicine for anxiety attacks. He knew what he needed to do, Michael wasn't crazy, he had figured out what was going on, and it led to his death. Very few people walk away from this group, and survive.

1605 days ago
1095.

MiMi    

1117. Author: MiMi
Comment:
Chico and Tellit




Have either of you read anything pertaining to why Michael let go Peter Lopez and exactly when that ocurred?
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Maybe someone can put it any better. Michael fired him for '90, in the middle or end of "Dangerous Tour" when Michael sold the recording of the show to HBO, Lopez was out.



Posted at 10:42 AM on May 2, 2010 by Lisa from France




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Hi Lisa



From the little information I have been able to find it seems that Mr. Lopez was in on the negotiations with AEG in 2007 or 2008. Sorry don't recall the correct year without going back and checking.



Now up untill Michael's death he was reported to have been involved with negotiations regarding the Michael Jackson Opus. This is all very confusing as a representative from Mr. Lopez's law firm has stated that he had not been Michael's attorney for a couple of years prior to his death.

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