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Oksana Held Back Cards During Mediation with Mel

7/29/2010 9:00 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Sources directly connected with Oksana Grigorieva tell TMZ that she purposely kept at least one key piece of evidence out of play during the mediation with Mel Gibson  -- alleged photos of her black eye.

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As we first reported, Sheriff's investigators are taking a hard look at the details of that 2-day negotiation because they believe it is relevant to Mel's extortion claim against Oksana -- and her domestic violence claim against Mel.

The source -- who's not a member of Oksana's legal team -- says Oksana never made an issue of the alleged black eye or whipped out pics of it during the mediation because she felt, at that point, that she had more than enough on the table -- for instance, the secretly recorded telephone rant.

There are reports that Oksana suffered the injury to her eye during the Jan. 6 blowout.

Now the obvious question is, why hold anything back? Several sources tell us the intent of the mediation was to lay everything out and then hammer out a deal. Once it was signed all evidence would be confidential, we're told, so any unused ammo would be rendered useless.

The talks ended with Mel's side offering Oksana $15 million -- which she first accepted ... before reneging on the deal.

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121.

voice of reason    

She threw away 15M! Not bad for a few yrs invested in a relationship!!
Mel, your offer was more than generous. I understand there were also other perks for her and Lucia.
Now its off the table. Take that 15M and give it a good cause. Only pay her child support, nothing more. Dont let her live off you!
Anybody with a rational mind that has been following this story can see how you have been `taken``.
You have a lot of support, stay strong, stay focused, this too shall pass.

TO THE MEDIA

There is an important component to this whole story. The strong support for Mel Gibson. WHY ARENT YOU REPORTING THIS!

1545 days ago
122.

reeblite    

hahaha, i agree lori, unfortunately not going to happen, until SHE goes away, preferably behind bars, where she belongs.

1545 days ago
123.

Pamela    

I'm so sick of this story. Stop reporting on these two until the "end of the story". SICK SICK SICK OF THIS STORY!!!!!

1545 days ago
124.

Raven    

Can't help but notice all the abuser is concerned with is $$ yet plays it the opposite. SHE's the one talking about THEIR daughter, you never hear him saying anything other than in retaliation he's gonna take her baby from her. He's vile. Besides,she should get 150 million $$ just for putting his wrinkly old peepee in her mouth.....eeeww

1545 days ago
125.

Raven    

""There are reports that Oksana suffered the injury to her eye during the Jan. 6 blowout.""
LOL, if TMZ changed the last 3 letters of this sentence to j o b , come on now, that's funny. Like 'he poked her in the eye?'
Anyway, I believe the eye pics are real, but from a different date. Hell, she may have even 'baited' him a few times just to get 'evidence'....but I believe it all. Even if she baited him, she knew he flipped out abusive regularly & so she just did what she had to. The thought of him forever being in the pic,ie:father to the baby,the chance he'd harm the baby,or,um,lookit the immature,disgusting way he talked about & even taunted her son, the vile POS, & his whole ego of 'nobody'll believe you'.....you people siding with him are odd to me....HE is a cold,calculated,self absorbed abuser! SHE didn't say that crap, he did! He threatened her life, as well, called her the most vile names,all while expecting,no,demanding, a bj! He shoulda just saved himself the trouble & rage by going to a hooker,no strings. Sheesh. It's a male ego abuser control thing,classic. Anyone who's been in this type of situation knows, the 1st thing said is usually, "I understand he SAID these things, but as far as we know, he hasn't (ie:won't) DO it" So, she got her proof! I believe her MAIN goal s to protect her family, of course get all the $$ she can in the process & I don't blame her one bit for that! She 'deserves it', um, to quote the SOB. She took a chance big time if ONLY about $$, no, it's MAINLY about protection & exposing him, busting that over inflated ego of 'nobody'll believe you",they do now,huh Yet STILL it's somehow ok???You're giving him a pass to do it again? Cause now it's gone from 'nobody believe' to 'who cares,she deserves it'??What's wrong with you people? especially the women? I know @ least one of you already knows a guy like this & yet you excuse this behaviour?? wow. kudos to HER if only one person hearing all this crap sees it in their own life & says 'enough!'.

1545 days ago
126.

sayonara    

WHY ON EARTH is this woman, and her entire extended family still living in Mel Gibson's house? Doesn't this bother anyone else?

I have only sympathy for women and children who have lived through genuine abusive spouses and fathers. I have opened my home to several. One friend I drop to her house at 3am to help her move into my guest room, because I was worried about her safety. Surely if Oksana had any true friends, someone would have done the same, you might have thought.

The first thing every one of the women I knew did was LEAVE THEIR HUSBANDS or boyfriends. They did not remain under the roof of the man who hurt them.

In addition, how on earth did an 'abused' woman not bring proof and photographs of abuse before a judge? Wouldn't that be the central and most important issue to focus on? Everything else would be secondary, to any women I know.

This single action alone makes me think she is a liar. Suddenly, her entire case revolves around being a beaten woman...why wasn't this mentioned during mediation? I'm totally amazed now.

I've had quite a few friends who have been in abusive relationships. I don't know a single one who called their attorney before going to the hospital or the police. I don't know one who contracted a publicist before looking for a new, safe home, or went to replace their caps before finding a new safe home for their child. Every action this woman has taken, and the order in which she has taken them, is questionable to me.

How anyone can defend Oksana, after researching this situation any deeper, is beyond me.

She reeks of stale gossip, media circus and dirty laundry.

1545 days ago
127.

sayonara    

@Raven:

You said: ",she should get 150 million $$ just for putting his wrinkly old peepee in her mouth.....eeeww"

I say: There's a word for women who perform sexual favors for money, fancier words for ones who charge more money for that service.

She didn't have to be with him if she thought he was repulsive. She had a choice and free will. If she was with him, trading youth and sexual favors for financial reward, then there is a word for that kind of woman, and it's not flattering.

By your even saying she should get paid for sex, and that she deserves it, you simply proves what some people here are thinking about her motivations and character.

There's an old joke on Wall Street:

A man walks up to an attractive woman, and asks her if she'll sleep with him for $1 MM dollars. She smiles coyly at him and says "maybe...what did you have in mind?"

He says...hold on a second, I need to make a phone call

He then returns to her and asks her "okay, would you sleep with me for $50 dollars?"

At this point, the woman is outraged, and says "$50? What do you think I am?"

He replies: "Well, I know what you are...at this point, we're just negotiating a price"

1545 days ago
128.

Jamison    

#8 --- Learn to spell dumb-ass

1545 days ago
129.

cajungirl985    

I hope Oksana gets arrested, goes to trial, gets convicted, and gets some serious prison time...NOT jail time...PRISON time. This woman is EVIL, she should lose custody of both her children.

1545 days ago
130.

PATRICE    

WHAT IS IT ABOUT US THAT WE PLACE PEOPLE UP ON PEDISTILES? BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE BECOME RICH, SUCCESSFUL, POPULAR WE THINK THIS INTITLES US TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONDEM THOSE WHO WE WANT? WE TREAT THESE PEOPLE LIKE GODS, THEN WHEN THEY SHOW THEMSELVES AS JUST HUMAN WE SLAM THEM, SHOVE THEM TO THE GROUND AND KEEP KICKING THEM UNTIL WE FEEL VINDICATED..WE'RE A SICK SOCIETY..WE JUST CAN'T SEEM TO GET ENOUGH BLOOD..MEL HAS BEEN ON THE "HOLLYWOOD HIT-LIST" SINCE HE MADE "THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST" NOT ONE NOMINATION COME ON NOW..WHERE IS OUR COMPASSION? IT'S NOT HARD TO SEE MEL'S IN PAIN..NOT THAT I CONDONE HIS ACTIONS, I DON'T, BUT LET HIM HEAL IN PEACE..WE ALL DESERVE THAT. I WISH HIM THE BEST. I HOPE AND PRAY HE GETS BACK TO HIS ROOTS AND BELIEFS AND PUTS THEM INTO PRACTICE THUS GIVING HIM PEACE AND CONTRITION FOR ANY AND ALL THE MISTAKES HE'S MADE. HE DIDN'T LET HIS FANS/PUBLIC DOWN, HE LET HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY DOWN. HE HAS A DEEP CONVICTION OF RIGHT AND WRONG, AS HE WAVERED FROM HIS BELIEFS, HE ATTEMPTED TO DROWN THE GUILT..WE, THE PUBLIC AND THIE SICK MEDIA WANT HIM CRUSHED UNDER THE WEIGHT HE'S PUT ON HIMSELF. I FOR ONE, WISH HIM THE BEST. I BELIEVE HE'S A GOOD PERSON, A GOOD MAN,

1545 days ago
131.

Voice    

So a rich old loser like Mel, cannot relate to women and thinks they are objects and buys himself one.....and SHE'S THE VILLAIN?
Men who hook up with gold diggers, do so of their own free will, they are not victims, they are pathetic, insecure control freaks who cannot connect or get REAL women.
And it doesn't matter if she was a street walker or a nun, there is no excuse for Mel Gibson's tirades, rants or physical abuse.
And the general public can see he's paying a ton of money to smear his victim in the media, which is only further abuse and proves what an absolute monster he is.
GO AWAY FOREVER MEL GIBSON. Only your shills are on your side, no one REAL believes you, monster.

1545 days ago
132.

sayonara    

Dear "voice"

I don't care for Mel. Personally, I think that only his ex-wife Robyn is showing class, restraint and adult behavior. I admire Robyn tremendously for her conduct through this debacle. She seems like the only one of the three who truly cares about the emotional well being of her children.

Mel, on the other hand, has acted like a spoiled brat and an immature male unable to accept the reality of aging. He is not a sympathetic character.

That being said, if Oksana is a bought and paid for companion, as you yourself suggest, then she must have been aware that this is a high risk profession. No doubt, that's probably why most decent parents don't encourage their daughters to become hoookers, call girls or strippers, no matter how well they pay. Most decent parents also feel uncomfortable when their daughters pimp themselves out to the highest bidder, for the same reason. Those kinds of extreme disparities in wealth and power inevitably create an unbalanced relationship, one unlikely to nurture respect or genuine rapport. They usually end up more like master and slave, which is why many self-respecting women avoid them.

You seem to gloss over the fact that Oksana pursued and cultivated a relationship with a married man known for his temper and macho personality. One must wonder why. After all, Hollywood is full of younger, better looking, probably kinder men who don't have the baggage. She is an attractive woman. There were many men who would have been glad to be with her, even if they were less financially endowed. Why, if she had her own career, would she sacrifice herself?

The women I know who have dated men with horrible tempers have generally left them. Oksana could have left Mel as soon as she discovered this side of him. Instead, she continued to go out, even on vacation with him, even after the alleged nuclear blow up we have all been subjected to. Why?

It's a free country. No one was tying Oksana down, forcing her to use Mel's credit cards, remain under a roof he was paying for, driving a car he paid for. She didn't need to allow him to spend millions on her 'career'. There's a thing known as pride. There's also something known as taking responsibility for one's choices.

Why is Oksana still staying in a house he is paying for? I would think that the first thing she would do is move into a home of her own, perhaps the house of a friend, if nothing else to reduce the risk of a dangerous encounter. Surely LA has safe houses and enough warm hearted people who might open their homes to a woman in distress, in fear for her children. Again, why subject her children and her family to this dangerously deranged man?

In addition, I must stress, no matter how much you or I may find Mel use of language repulsive, in the United States it isn't illegal to have a bad temper, or use the "f" word or even the "n" word. If it were, most modern comedy acts would be illegal. You may find his rants distasteful and disgusting. Fine. Boycott his movies, don't listen to the tapes on ROL and refuse to date him, should he come courting. Apart from that, he hasn't broken the law by cursing in his own home.

Regarding your other allegation, I don't know if Mel is paying "a ton" of money to smear her. I've seen almost nothing from his side, except what he is sharing with the judge and the LAPD. Before I believe you, I'd have to see the receipts. Do you have copies of them?

The only person who is repeatedly in the news for hiring/firing publicists and lawyers, who is the source of a veritable cornucopia of tapes and recordings, is Oksana.

Pot: meet Kettle.

1545 days ago
133.

Laura     

Just because Oksana may be a gold digger, Mel should not be excused for his behavior. Calling Oksana a homewrecker is just plain stupid. When Mel started sleeping with her, did he forget he was married??? He's a big boy and responsible for his own behavior.

1545 days ago
134.

Fidel's niece    


Of course she held back the cards - so she could use them to extort more money from Mel sometime in the future. It's the oldest trick in a book (Blackmail 101). O$$$kanky is a visionary and a planner ...
Clever and DANGEROUS...Like a Black widow spider.

1545 days ago
135.

Tellthetruth59    

@sayonara - another beautifully written and balanced post -- filled with truth.

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