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Child Custody Agreement Gives Mel Joint Custody

9/27/2010 10:00 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Oksana Grigorieva signed a "Child Custody" agreement in May which spelled it out as clearly as can be -- Mel Gibson was not only entitled to unsupervised contact with Lucia, he was getting joint legal and physical custody of the child.

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The document, obtained by TMZ, was signed by Oksana and Mel on May 16 ... but disavowed by Oksana shortly thereafter. She claimed she did not know the agreement gave Mel unsupervised contact with the baby. 

But the agreement laid out in almost painful detail the schedule for custody, down to the day and the hour.   Mel immediately got joint legal custody of the baby. He also got significant unsupervised visitation, which turned into 50/50 custody when Lucia turned 3.

The agreement also provided, when Mel didn't have Lucia, the nanny would coordinate a Skype call between himself and the child.

The agreement spelled out who gets the kids on holidays. But these pages, which were initialed by both Mel and Oksana, were X'd out. We're told a similar schedule was later substituted for the one you see.

It was the Father's Day visitation that sent the case into family court, when Oksana refused to let Mel have the baby.

Oksana's lawyer, Dan Horowitz, had no comment.

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106.

KoalaBabe    

Kaprifol, you're welcome:)

1489 days ago
107.

Michael    

Therefore I keep telling what is ignored as long as team Mel is repeating their hate towards Oksana all day long ..


Posted at 3:53 AM on Sep 27, 2010 by Sorntolc


Go, if Oksana is found guilty, WILL YOU ADMIT SHE LIED???

I will admit I was wrong gladly, IF she is found not guilty of extortion. AND, only if it is NOT a settlement!

1489 days ago
108.

KoalaBabe    

"hates all day long" by sorntolc.

Psst Oksana, we do have a job, get it we have a job.
We don't used "blow" for a man to provide for us :P

1489 days ago
109.

Sorntolc    

of all the things this female did
the one thing that changed the tone was
when she tried to come between M.G. and
his second child, when she did that she lost

Posted at 3:51 AM on Sep 27, 2010 by michelle

When Mr. Gibson secretly banged around with a porn star whle his official girlfriend was pregnant, he created a lot of troubles for himself & everybody around him. He lost his trustworthiness completely.

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So you are trying to imply, by their post that Mel and his lawyer, WITH TWO FORMER JUDGES mediating the disussing carefully led her to this choice????????

Posted at 3:47 AM on Sep 27, 2010 by Michael

Oksana's laywers & the judges probably did their best, but as stated by Horowitz, it was a dubious agreemnet, especially the pragraphs about destruction of evidence. I believe all decent experts will have to think about that. Of course Mel's laywers & other supporters pressed the situation in his direction, both inside & outside the negotiations. It might on first glance look as a favorable agreement for Oksana, but actually it is mostly to the benefit of Mr. Gibson & far from comprehending the rational terms used in the legal system, I believe Oksana walked out from her female intuition making her aware, that this was not a good agreemnet for the sake of neither herself nor Lucia, it only intended to give Mel full control of the whole situation, destroying the evidence of his abusiveness, for which he would pay her in cash.

And in the midst of it all, he lied about his porn affair. What an irresponsible & disgusting Alpha-male. He should learn to use his sexual powers to take care of his relatives instead of constantly feeding his selfish ego.

1489 days ago
110.

KoalaBabe    

Oksana going to 60 minutes for more lies and earning more hates, good move from her PR lol.

Public is really sick of her and her last effort to salvage her non-existent moral a waste of time.

all she has to do simply to keep quiet then hopefully the scandal will go away.

1489 days ago
111.

KoalaBabe    

I believe Oksana walked out from her female intuition making her aware, that this was not a good agreemnet for the sake of neither herself nor Lucia, it only intended to give Mel full control of the whole situation, destroying the evidence of his abusiveness, for which he would pay her in cash.

And in the midst of it all, he lied about his porn affair. What an irresponsible & disgusting Alpha-male. He should learn to use his sexual powers to take care of his relatives instead of constantly feeding his selfish ego.

Posted at 4:30 AM on Sep 27, 2010 by Sorntolc

Sorntolc he is providing for all his relatives.
Including Lucia.
Oksana and her family is not his relative so get over it. Your argument is weak as piss water.

1489 days ago
112.

WhoKnows    

And in the midst of it all, he lied about his porn affair. What an irresponsible & disgusting Alpha-male. He should learn to use his sexual powers to take care of his relatives instead of constantly feeding his selfish ego.

Posted at 4:30 AM on Sep 27, 2010 by Sorntolc
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His relatives? You mean like the "army" that Oinky is so jealous of? You mean like his daughter Lucia who he generously provided for? Or are you claiming that Oinky is a relative now? Um...no she's not. Get that through your head. It seems Oinky can't get it through hers.

1489 days ago
113.

WhoKnows    

By the way, Snorty, how does one use sexual powers to provide for their relatives? Are you referring to Oinky using hers to get Mel to pay for mom, dad, son, sister?

1489 days ago
114.

KoalaBabe    

I posted this for sorntolc on another thread.


1038.

Mel can't suppress any posters, but he could publish some good advice about what kinds of support he wants & doesn't want. I'm sure it would affect the general atmosphere. Long as he don't, I'll hold him partly responsible for the witchhunt going on & keep saying he isn't noble towards his babymother.

You don't find Violet Kowal significant for this story. To me it looks as if Mel really messed things up, failing a pregnant girlfriend & secretly engaging a prostitute or whatever. It's total lack of honesty & ability to commit to a woman, but only giving in to his own demands. How low, considering his letter above, a disgusting turn over he couldn't even face the truth himself.

Talking about Oksana's past: How do you know whether certain testimonies are true? Actually you don't know much, but team Mel has preferingly posted the nasty ones over & over again. Furthermore they have created numerous stories, espeially Sweethearts are evil, but they have romured & posted along by many Mel supporters. Of course people can keep doing these things, I'd rather see some more evidence, private material included, long as it reveals a corner of the truth. Whether Oksana is popular on short terms isn't relevant now, it's the long term aspects counting most & as the truth is gradually understood, there may be a turn of the tide.

Posted at 9:49 PM on Sep 26, 2010 by Sorntolc


Sorntolc,

I'm going to keep it simple for you.
Firstly the argument between Oksana was done in private, Mel did not call her a whore gold digger among other things in public.

Secondly Mel was seeing another woman before Oksana her name Diana Alouise . Oksana somehow managed to insinuate herself on Mel Gibson equation and latched onto him like a leeched when she'd gotten his attention.

Oksana love using flowery words, I noted it on her email to Mel.
When a man mind was in low ebb they've become dependent to a person whom giving them the answer they needed during darkest hour.
But in Oksana's part she was doing it for manipulations.
Her agenda was, to get Mel totally dependent on her and forsake his other children. She wanted a total control of him, I guess in her mind that way, she has free access to Mel Gibson millions.

Mel Gibson had woken up and seen what written on the wall, Oksana was not for real, therefore he told her she was fake.

He stated on that tape, she is synthetic person and fake.
We agree with it, she is faked to the boot.
All her email compassions was like a written script it has no substance and worthless when she recorded his rantings and edited her part of it of how and why what provoked the anger.

You can't expect me to believed that a man would unleashed his anger to saint Oksana and calling her all the names under the sun without her saying something to inflamed his anger?

The recording was mismatched, his answer to her doesn't make sense. Specially when he said "don't insult me" listening to the recording obviously Oksana said many things that is so insulting that incensed him, yet we never got to hear it didn't we? good editing does wonder for Oksana.

Thirdly, you want Mel Gibson accountable to what was happening to Oksana now?

He did not make that recording public Oksana did it."fault lies on her solely"

Mel Gibson did not talked to the press after the story went viral. "Oksana did, she was busy primping herself just in case another paparazzi was around"

Mel Gibson did not show or tell the whole world she was a whore. Their conversation was in private. "Oksana wanted us all to hear i,t and view a cheap woman whom don't know when to stopped"

Mel Gibson had not aired any lovey dovey private feelings to the press. "Oksana kept releasing intimates to the press"

If you want to blamed Mel Gibson for Oksana's doing go ahead, we knew what is right and what is wrong.

Mel has his own faults but he doesn't deserved what Oksana was dishing him every week.
Considering what other rich men mistress was getting, Mel Gibson had offered Oksana a very generous proviso for their child.

But Oksana was too greedy, she wanted more millions like what Robyn and her older children was getting.

In my mind Mel had allocated his older legitimate children a handsome inheritance and that made Oksana seethed with intense jealousy.
Mel Gibson was providing proviso for Lucia is very very generous.

Oksana had not contributed any cents to Mel Gibson millions or success,therefore cannot expect an enormous payout from him.
She was not part of his climbed to success, Robyn and his older children was, and his older children still his light on his darkest hour.
It is humiliating for them too, the man whom Oksana labelled as a great failure is their father too. Thank god for Robyn solid upbringing that none of Mel Gibson older children had spoken to the press or had public slanging with Oksana. Robyn probably has spoken to her children not to engaged to public slanging, let the law handle it and in the end the commonsense will prevail.

You see Sorntolc the above possibility had been a winner to Mel Gibson case.
He did not exploited his children to give him a good press against Oksana.
Instead Oksana was using her children against Mel Gibson, spot the difference?

So if you compare the two, who will yield a better public supports? I guess you know the answer to that.

Posted at 2:10 AM on Sep 27, 2010 by KoalaBabe

1489 days ago
115.

Tellthetruth59    

@Snorty - have you ever considered that Violet K is lying about sleeping with Gibson? You seem to take her word for it and yet she is porn actresses that sold her story to the NE. She was working with Ox to bring Gibson down and now she has run with her tail between her legs to LE with her tapes and threats from Ox's bodyguard.

You harp on Gibson sleeping with her like it's FACT and so far I have seen no proof that it is.

1489 days ago
116.

KoalaBabe    

WhoKnows, this was all planned by Oksana.
For Mel to provide for her and her whole family with everything while denying him an access for Lucia.

What a heck of a woman Oksana is, really low,lower than worms.

1489 days ago
117.

wondering    

ok i couldn't resist this once i saw it on others posts...

He should learn to use his sexual powers to take care of his relatives instead of constantly feeding his selfish ego.

Posted at 4:30 AM on Sep 27, 2010 by Sorntolc

now snorty is telling mel to commit incest!

that is just ...sad and ...ewwwwwwww

1489 days ago
118.

KoalaBabe    

Tellthetruth59 morning:)

Sorntolc could be Oksana's moniker for all we know.

1489 days ago
119.

kimi     

SIMPLY PUT ... SHE IS A TOTAL BITCH!!!

1489 days ago
120.

KoalaBabe    

now snorty is telling mel to commit incest!

that is just ...sad and ...ewwwwwwww

Posted at 4:44 AM on Sep 27, 2010 by wondering

double ewwwwwwwwwww lol wondering

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