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Conrad Murray to Joe Jackson: Objection!!!

10/11/2010 4:30 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Dr. Conrad Murray is making it clear -- he will fight Joe Jackson tooth and nail in the Michael Jackson wrongful death lawsuit.

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In new legal documents -- obtained by TMZ -- Dr. Murray's lawyer, Charles Peckham, is asking the judge to throw out statements attributed to Michael Jackson ... that Katherine Jackson was acting as an agent -- a go-between -- in funneling support money to Joe.

Peckham says the claims that Katherine was Michael's agent -- made by Joe's lawyer, Brian Oxman, and Leonard Rowe, the self-proclaimed former MJ advisor, are nothing but rank hearsay.

For example, Oxman said in legal papers filed last week, "[Michael Jackson] supported his father, Joseph Jackson, by making payments to his mother, Katherine Jackson, on a monthly basis."  Peckham calls Oxman an "incompetent legal expert."

Peckham also claims there is no proof Rowe ever served as Michael's advisor.


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181.

Cherwood    

Torture! Part 2..........
-#29: C. Carroll Adams, I hope you're wrong. I agree that Joe may not be able to prove that Michael supported him, but I still think as his Father, he's entitled to sue his son's Murderer....
The point isn't so much to get money (I hope,) but to expose Murray and make him squirm enough to name his partners in crime....
ANybody DUMB enough to think Murray did this on his own need only look at Murray's life before and AFTER Michael's passing:
Before, he was in debt to his eyeballs, house in foreclosure, offices being closed, babymamas suing him and so on...
After, he still has that house hanging in the balance, but meanwhile he can afford extravagant trips with his babymamas--who have suddenly become gracious and made an agreement on his support arrears, he can afford an impressive team of Lawyers for the trial, civil suit, AND personal affairs such as his suit against FDIC, he wears the best tailored suits to court, and so on....
SUPPOSEDLY, his bills are being paid by "friends".....how much you wanna bet that those "friends" are the same ones who are behind Michael's demise??
-#31: The ELUSIVE Murray mugshot was "magically erased" by the same people who are backing his multiple court cases, paid his bills, and set him up to murder the GREATEST ENTERTAINER ON EARTH!!!
-#53: Oh Tellit, or whoever you REALLY are at this point because I DOUBT you are the original.....anyway, you should know a SUCKER when you see one, being so closely associated with being one yourself...
I would've guessed that you'd be smart enough to realize a hatchet job when you saw it--talk about a hoax? The only hoax is that PROPOFOL CRAP that has been crammed down our throats.....
How CONVENIENT, just because Michael ONCE had an addiction to PAIN MEDS--which he got clean of, btw....the CORONER'S report stated he showed NO SIGNS OF DRUG ABUSE.....READING IS FUNDAMENTAL...but NOT TABLOID TRASH.......
I don't buy the Propofol story no more than I buy the allegations, half the BS they said about Michael, nor your fantasies that he's still alive.......
But if he was, he'd be giggling at what a SUCKER you are for falling for the oldest trick in the book......you and others of your ilk....
BTW: That would be nice to see that Michael had servants taking care of him like that, but they probably would be elsewhere in Europe, not the Mideast, IMO.....
That IS what you meant by that last remark....isn't it?
-#55: MJ Lives on, the point about the DA disregarding the LAPD's request to take Murray down the normal way is just one more reason to question the DA's capability of being Impartial in this case. The fact that AEG contributed funds to Cooley's campaign was the FIRST indicator that things may be ROTTEN in Denmark....
I just PRAY that somehow there's SOMEONE in that DA's office who forges ahead to get Justice in this case. I know Murray isn't the only culprit, but regardless of the other players, ALL ROADS LEAD TO MURRAY--the bottom feeder, as it were......
-#56: Hey HumanNature! As much as I've had my issues with the Jacksons, I don't think they should be separated from their family. Remember all they've gone through already with Michael's passing, not to mention the fact that Prince and Paris were old enough to remember the 2005 fiasco and a few other incidents before and after that, not to mention people calling their Daddy names and sitting in judgement on him AS IF......
In a perfect world, I would have 2 wishes for their residence--that they live in Ireland, which Michael LOVED so much, and that they have Taj as a guardian....heck, in a PERFECT world, I'd want them to have Michael back! But since we know those things aren't going to happen, I just pray for PPB every day that they know how to separate the lambs from the wolves, and that they remain grounded and continue to make Michael proud....
I agree that living in Hayvenhurst and dealing with the likes of a family with Jermy in it is a hardship, but have faith in Prince and Paris that they will rise above that madness, and take Blanket with them....there was a reason why Michael held himso close all of the time, I really have the feeling that Blanket is the "heir apparent", no offense to Prince and Paris....
It's in the spirit of "the last shall be first..." you know the drill.......
-#61: Hey Siggisiss! We're on the same page with this one. Funny how Murray is the only Murder Suspect, but we haven't heard practically ANYTHING about things such as why his once failing financial picture has now become so bright. And it can't be that he made money from books or anything, including his upcoming reality show because that's not slated to start until AFTER his trial is over.....
The other 3 they need to dig into is Jermy,Tohme and Randy Phillips. It's clear that the latter 2 played their part in the conspiracy as well, and Jermy has had issues with Michael for years, AND introduced him to all of the culprits.....
In a murder investigation, you usually find at least ONE of the suspects in the victims' own backyard.......
-#65: dd, yes--Jermy is married to Halima, Tohme's NIECE.....
-#69: HumanNature: Undisclosed Person(s) = AEG, SONY
-#91: mjlover456, I totally wish we could just make LisaMarie go away, but I guess that's never going to happen. Since her own career has never worked out, she has made a career out of being her Father's daughter, and Michael's Ex. At this point, who cares, really? I'm happy that she's had a change of heart towards her feelings for Michael, but she seems fickle so I wonder how long that will last......
Whenever I think of her, all I can see is that Interview of her and Michael, and how DEFENSIVE she was, while he looked like a wounded "doe eyed deer", knowing that his LIFE depended on her support........blurry now.....
-#93: Just sayin', BEAUTIFUL POST!
-#107: Hey Daphne! I don't know what POSESSED Katherine to let PPB be Interviewed, but there is a chance that they WANTED to be....
And I know they'll do Michael proud, but I'm scared that people will scrutinize them for every word that comes out of their mouths....but I guess they have to learn to deal with it sometimes.....sigh......what a world.....
One thing we shouldn't have to worry about is Oprah acting stupid on them. I know she doesn't want to subtract from her already failing popularity by harassing 3 orphans.......let's hope she's not THAT stupid........
.....................SIMMERING...............................

1282 days ago
182.

janalal4    

Cherwood: There WERE bottles of Propofol found in a storage closet along with IV poles & O2 tanks back in 2002 during the raid at Neverland. We know this because a photo of the storage closet exists-seen it because it was posted right here on TMZ. When you read LMP's post from her website-the infamous one that was written by her & posted the day MJ died, she speaks about the things were going on that she had no power to alter even tho' she wanted to. Then there is the anesthesiologist who was interviewed by Sanjay Gupta. "I'd take him down at night & bring him back up in the AM". When he was asked about the Propfol, the guy(who before this question was asked, you couldn't shut him up btw) promptly ended the interview & basically went back into his house shutting the door in Gupta's face. I've no doubt MJ had used Propofol BEFORE the time in which he was rehearsing for the O2 concerts. Common sense would also tell anyone that you simply don't just 'decide to start using Propofol as a sleep aid one day out of the blue' unless you've had some 'experience' with using prescription drugs in ways which are definitely considered 'not usual' or 'off label' in the past. This is just 'typical addict behavior'.

There are so many people who seem to think that Michael Jackson abusing prescription medication somehow makes him 'a bad person' or detracts from what an amazing human being he was. IT DOESN'T. It simply means he had a problem that millions of people suffer from. It wasn't the 'only' problem he had. It also doesn't take anything away from what an amazing, talented, generous, kind, & loving human being he was either. I understand EXACTLY what Chopra meant when he said that MJ was a 'controlled addict'. MJ had the financial means to be exactly that. He'd always been lucky in the past in choosing physicians who had enough medical knowledge that they could administer the drugs 'safely', albeit 'illegally' but at least they were knowledgeable enough NOT to kill him. However, with Murray this was NOT the case. Unfortunately MJ chose an incompetent individual who cared more about MONEY than he cared about MJ's life. Murray couldn't even be bothered enough to look Diprivan up in a PDR. That's ALL he would have needed to do to get the info necessary to properly & safely administer it. He KNEW what the proper 'equipment' was that he needed because he supposedly requested AEG to provide it. Problem is that despite the fact that he did not yet have the equipment available, he went ahead & administered the medication anyway for fear of angering his employer(MJ), therefore losing his big, high paying gig I.E. NO MORE $$$$$$. Not too hard to see what motivated Dr. Quackeroo-NOT concern for his patient safety but rather doing whatever it took to protect his 'paycheck'. Sad stuff. MJ thought if a doctor was administering then he was 'safe'. All physicians are NOT created equal & this happened to be the ONE TIME where MJ's luck ran out but any addict will tell you-it only takes ONE TIME.

The autopsy MORE than verified the fact that MJ had a substance abuse problem-3 rounds of 3 different benzodiazepines, yet MJ REMAINED AWAKE-because he had a 'tolerance'. He had a 'tolerance' because he had a history with those drugs. Tolerance in drug abuse doesn't just develop overnight. It takes TIME. Just because they were prescribed to him, doesn't mean they were 'safe' or that he was NOT an addict. It just means he had the financial means to find an M.D. who SANCTIONED HIS DRUG ABUSE. An addict will ALWAYS FIND A WAY & when you have the kind of money MJ had, you could always find a physician willing to sacrifice or to lower their ethical standards & call it 'practicing caring & compassionate medicine' when what it really was was 'physician sanctioned & enabled prescription drug abuse'. PERIOD.

1282 days ago
183.

mysteria333    

MURRAY IS CHARGED WITH HOMICIDE, IN THIS COUNTRY IF YOU ARE CHARGED WITH HOMICIDE AND YOU ARE A DOCTOR. A MASSIVE INVESTIGATION GETS UNDERWAY..SUCH AS CHECKING DOCTORS PAST PATIENTS TO SEE IF ANY OTHER PATIENTS DIED FROM AN OVERDOSE OF ANESTETICS, PATIENTS ARE INTERVIEWED FROM DOCTORS PAST, BODIES ARE EXHUMED THAT DIED WHILE UNDER DOCTORS CARE,CREDENTIALS ARE CHECKED AND RECHECKED, ETC, ETC,. NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN DONE IN REGARDS TO MURRAY. NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO MURRAY, YOU CAN COUNT ON THAT. AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE MURRAY KNOWS IT. I DONT KNOW WHO THIS CHARACTER IS BUT HE'S KNOW CARDIOLOGIST..NOT ONE THING THAT HE ALLEGEDLY DID SAYS HE'S A CARDIO SPECIALIST.. NO ONE HAS SEEN A BODY. AN SO CALLED POLICE OFFICIALS WAITED UNTIL THE SO CALLED DOCTOR HAD TIME TO DISPOSE OF ANY INCRMINATING EVIDENCE BEFORE DECIDING TO SEARCH HIS PROPERTIES. NO ONE HAS SEEN ANY MUG SHOT OF MURRAY, AND HE'S LIVING THE LIFE OF A TYCOON. YET THE MEDIA IS CONSTANTLY TELLING THE PUBLIC HOW BROKE HE IS. EVERYTHING ABOUT ALL OF THIS IS SO PHONY FROM JUNE 25TH TO NOW, THAT IT SCREAMS COVER UP AND CONSPIRACY. AND AS USUAL THE PUBLICS IGNORANCE IS WHATS COUNTED ON TO PULL THIS OFF. AND I MUST SAY IT HAS BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE HAVE EATEN IT UP HOOK LINE AND SINKER. BUT I MUST ALSO SAY IF IT GIVES MICHAEL A CHANCE FINALLY AT SOME PEACE AND HEALING. IT'S ALL MORE THAN WORTH IT. IF ANY ONE DESERVES SOME PEACE AND TIME TO HEAL IT'S MR. MICHAEL JACKSON. AND JERMAINE WAS RIGHT. THEY NEED TO BUILD A MONUMENT TO HIM IN WASHINGTON.. HE'S DONE NOTHING BUT CONTRIBUTE TO HUMANITY ALL HIS LIFE. AND THERE SHOULD DEFINATELY BE A PROCLAMATION.....MS. PELOSI....IN ANY EVENT LET'S PLAY ALONG WITH THE MEDIA AND SEE WHAT DECEPTION UNFOLDS NEXT. GOD BLESS MANKIND

1282 days ago
184.

janalal4    

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/10/raid-at-michael-jacksons-neverland-ranch-netted-heavy-drugs/

List of & photos of Rx bottles of meds with a number of different alias's that were found in Neverland raid from 2003. The list includes Iv bags, syringes, 02 tanks, what appears to be a pulse oximeter, bags/bottles with a 'milky white substance' & this was in 2003. Also, some pretty incriminating evidence that the anesthesiologist who accompanied him on the Hisstory/Dangerous tours was using these same meds during this time as well. MJ was no 'stranger' to any of these meds & we certainly don't do his memory any 'favors' by trying to minimize his history of drug abuse. If anything, it should be a cautionary tale so that OTHER LIVES can be saved & others protected from these unethical docs so willing to prescribe to anyone with a fat enough bank account. It sickens me the way these physicians will compromise their ethics & totally disregard the oath they took to 'first do no harm' & enabling an addict is as harmful as it comes. How they are able to 'justify' their actions makes me sick. They are a sad embarassment to all the medical professionals in this world who work so hard to take proper care of their patients. There are MANY medical professionals who share in the demise & destruction of an extraordinary talent, not just Murray however they WILL answer for what they have done one day & NOT simply in a court of law either.

1282 days ago
185.

janalal4    

Mysteria-Hang in there & be patient. Just because we haven't 'heard' thru the media just WHAT the prosecution DOES HAVE against Murray in the way of evidence doesn't mean it does not exist. The prosecution doesn't go around releasing to the media, all the evidence in their case. That would be foolish. Like a poker player showing his hand. The prosecution is not going to lay out their strategy before the trial begins as it would only give Murray more opportunity to craft & to 'get creative' with his defence. The prosecutions wants nothing MORE than to get Murray AND all his 'witnesses' up on that stand & rip them to shreds. If the defence can 'anticipate' the prosecution's strategy then, like a chess match, THEY then know what 'move' to make. Therefore, it's a 'good thing' that we the public are in the dark because if we are, then Murray is. So 'I' don't need, nor want to know if it means Murray won't have a leg to stand on. I'm sorry that the most Murray can possibly get is 4 years but unfortunately, you can't charge someone with murder if you can't substantiate the charge & as I see it, 'involuntary manslaughter' really IS the best the prosecution can do because there was no 'intent' to 'kill' MJ. It was horribly tragic & foolish but MJ's death WAS an unintentional one. So we'll just have to all be patient until January but I think we'll all see that more will be revealed in this case without a doubt & as I see it, unless there's a serious 'dumbass' jury, I just don't see how this guy will walk. I sincerely believe that off to prison he shall go! :)

1282 days ago
186.

mysteria333    

ANGELA.... SO YOU THINK MICHAEL IS AN ANGEL WHO CAME HERE SENT BY GOD TO POSE AS A HUMAN TO GET US TO CHANGE OUR WAYS... INTERESTING....I DONT KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THAT IDEA FROM BUT QUITE FRANKLY... I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.....BET YOU THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU'RE CRAZY...NOT A CHANCE,, NOT WITH WHAT I'VE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED IN THIS WORLD...PERSONALLY I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT....MICHAEL HAS INSPIRED MULTIPLE MILLIONS..SO QUITE FRANKLY IT MAKES SINCE...LET ME KNOW OF ANY OTHER KNOWLEDGE OR THOUGHTS YOU HAVE...PEACE TO YOU.

1282 days ago
187.

sofi    

Watch what Klein says about Michael,his face,the surgeries and the children.
http//abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8030442
http//abcnews.go.com/video?id=8029888

1282 days ago
188.

TMZ Staff    

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWfWNI1jPPs

1282 days ago
189.

janalal4    

http://chismetime.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/angelmike.jpg

http://divaartist.com/divablog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ArchangelMichael.jpg

http://media.photobucket.com/image/photos%20of%20michael%20jackson%20as%20archangel/herrjeminee/MJ_archangel.jpg

http://media.photobucket.com/image/photos%20of%20michael%20jackson%20as%20archangel/herrjeminee/MJ_archangel.jpg
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MJ as 'angel'-perhaps so:) Check out the 3rd photo. A drawing I've not seen before. Not sure who the artist is but it's nice:) A gorgeous Michael.

1282 days ago
190.

janalal4    

http://chismetime.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/angelmike.jpg

http://divaartist.com/divablog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ArchangelMichael.jpg

http://media.photobucket.com/image/photos%20of%20michael%20jackson%20as%20archangel/herrjeminee/MJ_archangel.jpg

http://media.photobucket.com/image/photos%20of%20michael%20jackson%20as%20archangel/herrjeminee/MJ_archangel.jpg
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MJ as 'angel'-perhaps so:) Check out the 3rd photo. A drawing I've not seen before. Not sure who the artist is but it's nice:) A gorgeous Michael.

1282 days ago
191.

susie    

READ YOUR BIBLE!!!!

Posted at 12:58 AM on Oct 13, 2010 by HumanNature
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I read THE Bible, don't worry St. Human

1282 days ago
192.

mjuls    

In reply to


Sofi Posted at 12:24 PM on Oct 12, 2010


If Mjuls you are around please tell me how murray got away with what he has done.Also what happened to ed chernoff the bigshot lawyer who stated that they were going to win.
Is MURRAY going to a trial or will he escape again as always.

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For Sofi,

I’m not exactly sure I understand your question. When you say “please tell me how Murray got away with what he has done” are you referring to role in Michael Jackson’s death or his legal actions against Joe Jackson as cited in the story above?

Whether or not Conrad Murray will stand trial for involuntary manslaughter has yet to be determined. That decision will be made by the court when the preliminary trial is held early next year. If you are asking me in my opinion do I believe Conrad Murray will be ordered to stand trial at that time, the answer is yes. My overall take, that’s another story.

Ed Chernoff remains Conrad Murray’s criminal attorney; Charles Peckham is his civil attorney.

Be well,

Mjuls, Esq.

**DISCLAIMER: The information expressed is not intended to substitute for professional legal advice and does not create an attorney-client relationship. You should accept legal advice only from a licensed legal professional with whom you have an attorney-client relationship.

As a matter of record I state I am in no way affiliated with the Estate of Michael Jackson.

1282 days ago
193.

HumanNature    

READ YOUR BIBLE!!!!

Posted at 12:58 AM on Oct 13, 2010 by HumanNature
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I read THE Bible, don't worry St. Human

Posted at 4:51 AM on Oct 13, 2010 by susie

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING ME A SAINT BUT I'M "NOT"!!!!

NEVER WORRY WHAT OTHERS THINK BUT WILL POST THE FACTS!!!

I DO BELIEVE IN "THE ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH" AKA JAHWEH!!!!

YES, GOD (THIS WORD IS ONLY A TITLE) DO HAVE A NAME AND IT'S IN THE BIBLE!!!!!

1282 days ago
194.

HumanNature    

-#56: Hey HumanNature! As much as I've had my issues with the Jacksons, I don't think they should be separated from their family. Remember all they've gone through already with Michael's passing, not to mention the fact that Prince and Paris were old enough to remember the 2005 fiasco and a few other incidents before and after that, not to mention people calling their Daddy names and sitting in judgement on him AS IF......
In a perfect world, I would have 2 wishes for their residence--that they live in Ireland, which Michael LOVED so much, and that they have Taj as a guardian....heck, in a PERFECT world, I'd want them to have Michael back! But since we know those things aren't going to happen, I just pray for PPB every day that they know how to separate the lambs from the wolves, and that they remain grounded and continue to make Michael proud....
I agree that living in Hayvenhurst and dealing with the likes of a family with Jermy in it is a hardship, but have faith in Prince and Paris that they will rise above that madness, and take Blanket with them....there was a reason why Michael held himso close all of the time, I really have the feeling that Blanket is the "heir apparent", no offense to Prince and Paris....
It's in the spirit of "the last shall be first..." you know the drill.....

Posted at 1:33 AM on Oct 13, 2010 by Cherwood

I know what you mean and I do wish that they could have their father back, also. I know that we don't live in a perfect world and yes, they must learn how to separate the lamb from the wolves. I believe that they are on their way of learning about the WOLVES OF THIS WORLD. I have the utmost confidence that everything that MJ instilled in them will always be there.

With Jermaine and Papa Joe around they are learning really fast about the likes of the WOLVES!!!! GREAT TEACHERS, I MUST SAY!!!!!

MJ3 will stick together and will be there for each other, no matter what. Leaving the good OLD USA, is not a bad idea!!!!

What I am saying is that once they have reach 18 yrs old and have shown maturity they can seek custody of Blanket. Remember, Mrs. Jackson is not a young woman and god forbid if anything happen to her but they would be in a better position to petition the court for custody.

Just sayin!!!!

As always PEACE!!!!

1281 days ago
195.

sofi    

Mjuls,i am sorry i confused you i was referring to his role in Michael's death.Could you please tell me who is paying for all his expenses?He claims to be broke yet he had an expensive vacation,his debts have been paid for,who is so rich and generous to pay for him.
Thank you for answering to my post.

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