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Mel's Lawyers Want a Shot at Oksana's Key Witness

10/19/2010 10:30 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Oksana Grigorieva has enlisted a secret weapon in an attempt to strip Mel Gibson of overnight visits with their daughter, but TMZ has learned Mel won't give up that right without a fight.

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We're told Mel's attorneys have filed a request to depose Dr. Shawn McCoy, a licensed clinical social worker who specializes in child custody evaluations.

Sources tell us McCoy was hired by one of Oksana's previous lawyers -- and submitted a declaration to the court ... which said that, generally speaking, infants should not be with the father overnight when the parents are separated.

Oksana's attorneys could have a tough time convincing Judge Scott Gordon of that. We're told Mel's had one overnight visit with Lucia per week for the past several months and there have been no problems -- so his attorneys will argue that McCoy's generalization simply does not apply here.

Sources tell us yesterday Judge Gordon gave Mel's lawyers the green light for the depo.


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16.

jechrist    

this woman is so calculating and so mean. it's a though she has no contact with reality....it's kill, kill, kill, at all cost, at any cost. what happened to her in her life to make her so dam cruel. she is one of the meanest characters i have ever read about.

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17.

garnet    

yet Oksana has no qualms having a man who stops solitary female drivers while pretending to be a cop near Lucy.

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18.

Alcamedes    

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Alcamedes, what is your take on the extortion investigation?

I'm thinking if they are taking this long with it & assuming Oksana has handed over the items like the iphone handed over they must be working on a pretty solid case...


Posted at 1:34 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by kali


Based on what we have seen that is out in the public domain(Media) while I believe there is evidence where she could be charged with Extorsion, I don't see the D.A. pursuing the charges unless they believe their is grounds they believe they will secure a conviction.

The D.A. and Sheriff's Dept. could have evidence we are all not aware of, So it's possible it could happen. But based on what I see now, I think a defense lawyer could raise enough reasonable doubt to obatin an aquittal.

From my view with everything that has taken place since this all came out, if you ask me if I believe she was trying to extort him, Yes I do believe that is the case.

Her past is very very troublesome and looks like the marks of someone who is a user of men for their money, connections, and what ever else she can obtain before moving off to the next one.

It's almost a typical black widow scam except she isn't killing them off for insurance money (I wouldn't be suprised if we see this down the road). I believe the Sheriff's Dept would think their is enough evidence to charge her, but thatisn't up to them it is really the D.A.'s call as to where it goes.

I have seen cases where women have attempt what she has to those that are just your average 50K guy. It isn't a matter to some if it is for a few hundred dollars or a few million.

Women and Men that have that kind of an intent usually are sociopath's and the tendancies are really easy to see. If you look at this case and all of Oksana actions and her past you see it very very much in her that she fits the profile all too well IMO.

1466 days ago
19.

igotfleasfromtmz    

It is just around the corner when Mel would get more custody by 10 percent I think. That will decrease her monies when he petitions the court for an adjustment in support.
All about the Money.

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20.

Lynn M    

I was just watching a rerun of "Friends" and just had to get this dialog written down. Joey is practicing a scene with a "great actor" who keeps spitting on him. He finally confronts him and this is the actor's response..." Of course, I am...that's what good actors do. Annuncation is the mark of a good actor and when you annunciate, you spit!".

As for the social worker, the position is ridiculous. Infants and babies are highly adaptable. It could harm Lucia's relationship with her father if he isn't allowed to bond with his daughter. They must have shopped around for this fool. I find it hard to belive that the social worker did not also comment on Oksana's failure to protect her children is what she says about Mel is actually true.

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Alcamedes    

15.
So then all of you who heard these tapes and saw what he said to police five years ago would put an infant in his care? This growling, spitting, man who admitted to assaulting a woman and went on to threaten her life is fine to have an infant overnight? This man who went on a racist rant in front of several police officers when drunk is just fine to put on Lucia's jammies and watch her until she drifts off to sleep? You are all crazy. If you stepped back and thought about what you heard, you'd shudder. I am slightly older than this terrible man. I've watched him do this crap for decades. He only cares about a BJ, that's it. Go back and revisit these tapes. If you have any reasoning ability whatsoever, you would NEVER put an infant in this man's care.

Posted at 1:51 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by JLS


Well isn't this refreshing a person who "just needs an excuse" for contrived and irrational views was going to find it somewhere in these threads.

It would seem if your seeking something hanus in this situation You would see what you'd want. The great people who founded the consititution had the sense to have it so people like this,could have their say under the guise of free speech.

They also have laws to protect us from people just like this as well.

1466 days ago
22.

Lynn M    

So then all of you who heard these tapes and saw what he said to police five years ago would put an infant in his care? This growling, spitting, man who admitted to assaulting a woman and went on to threaten her life is fine to have an infant overnight? This man who went on a racist rant in front of several police officers when drunk is just fine to put on Lucia's jammies and watch her until she drifts off to sleep? You are all crazy. If you stepped back and thought about what you heard, you'd shudder. I am slightly older than this terrible man. I've watched him do this crap for decades. He only cares about a BJ, that's it. Go back and revisit these tapes. If you have any reasoning ability whatsoever, you would NEVER put an infant in this man's care.

Posted at 1:51 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by JLS

First off, few believe these tapes are not doctored to put Mel in the worst light. Second, last I heard this was a free country. You may not like how he allegedly talked to Oksana, nor the alleged content of these comments, but the comments alone are not a reasonalbe basis to take away ones children. That is why Oksana had to make up the allegation that Mel physically endangered Lucia. Once the picture of the "injured" baby was posted, most reasonable people knew that they were not looking at a "bruise" (now a "cut" since the uproar) but a common baby blemish.

In other words, the only way she can get 100% custody is to allege Mel physically injured Lucia. The courts have given him unsupervised visits since May. It was Mel's wise choice to have supervised visits, to protect him from false claims such as this.

1466 days ago
23.

Michael    

It's too bad this wasn't a regular case with a regular judge and normal rules. I wouldn't be surprised at anything this court comes up with, it's almost like Horo is scripting his rulings. Hint, hint...

1466 days ago
24.

Alcamedes    

First off, few believe these tapes are not doctored to put Mel in the worst light. Second, last I heard this was a free country. You may not like how he allegedly talked to Oksana, nor the alleged content of these comments, but the comments alone are not a reasonalbe basis to take away ones children. That is why Oksana had to make up the allegation that Mel physically endangered Lucia. Once the picture of the "injured" baby was posted, most reasonable people knew that they were not looking at a "bruise" (now a "cut" since the uproar) but a common baby blemish.

In other words, the only way she can get 100% custody is to allege Mel physically injured Lucia. The courts have given him unsupervised visits since May. It was Mel's wise choice to have supervised visits, to protect him from false claims such as this.

Posted at 2:38 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by Lynn M


I agree Lynn, I think Mel was very wise to have seen that a tacitic such as these accusation as well as other she has made would be coming. The really sad reality is that this happens more than you would think, and it really does have some serious consequences for those involved.

I think the biggest mistake parents can make when they part for whatever reason is to use their kids as a pawn in a custody battle. It really has adverse effect on the kids and it turns the kids enviroment into one filled with a a lot of tension and anxiety.

The kids feel it and see it in every gesture and or interaction between the parents, even more so in conversation and or comments to one another or about one parent to the child.

1466 days ago
25.

Kilmerfan     

Good, Oksana has gotten away this crap for too long.

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26.

Alcamedes    

First off, few believe these tapes are not doctored to put Mel in the worst light. Second, last I heard this was a free country. You may not like how he allegedly talked to Oksana, nor the alleged content of these comments, but the comments alone are not a reasonalbe basis to take away ones children. That is why Oksana had to make up the allegation that Mel physically endangered Lucia. Once the picture of the "injured" baby was posted, most reasonable people knew that they were not looking at a "bruise" (now a "cut" since the uproar) but a common baby blemish.

In other words, the only way she can get 100% custody is to allege Mel physically injured Lucia. The courts have given him unsupervised visits since May. It was Mel's wise choice to have supervised visits, to protect him from false claims such as this.

Posted at 2:38 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by Lynn M


I agree Lynn, I think Mel was very wise to have seen that a tacitic such as these accusation as well as other she has made would be coming. The really sad reality is that this happens more than you would think, and it really does have some serious consequences for those involved.

I think the biggest mistake parents can make when they part for whatever reason is to use their kids as a pawn in a custody battle. It really has adverse effect on the kids and it turns the kids enviroment into one filled with a a lot of tension and anxiety.

The kids feel it and see it in every gesture and or interaction between the parents, even more so in conversation and or comments to one another or about one parent to the child.

1466 days ago
27.

Bubba    

"15.
So then all of you who heard these tapes and saw what he said to police five years ago would put an infant in his care? This growling, spitting, man who admitted to assaulting a woman and went on to threaten her life is fine to have an infant overnight? This man who went on a racist rant in front of several police officers when drunk is just fine to put on Lucia's jammies and watch her until she drifts off to sleep? You are all crazy. If you stepped back and thought about what you heard, you'd shudder. I am slightly older than this terrible man. I've watched him do this crap for decades. He only cares about a BJ, that's it. Go back and revisit these tapes. If you have any reasoning ability whatsoever, you would NEVER put an infant in this man's care.

Posted at 1:51 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by JLS"

But of course, just like Oksana you'd take the 20 grand from the man every month. You'd have no problem with that right?

1466 days ago
28.

Michael    

The only people who support Oksana anymore are middle aged women who dumped their husbands at 40, so they could live on almony and child support, and date 25 year olds.

Of course, by the time they hit 45 even the 40 year olds wont date them anymore and they can't find a decent job. Fast forward to 55, the kids are long gone and they've lost 1/2 of their income [child support], and they end up living in a trailer eating cat food, going to senior dances hoping to get lucky. Oksana is the poster girl for that crowd.

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29.

Londongirl    

JLS

OG knew about Mel's past and decided to open her legs to him. She cannot now claim that Lucia cannot spend the night with him.

If he was good enough to give her money, bank roll her non existent music career and be the father of her child, why is he now not good enough to have Lucia for the night?

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30.

Bunny that earns scooby snacks!    

In May, Ox signed the short form mediation agreement knowing full well that Mel got overnight visits with Lcuy. She had no problem with that until she decided there wasn't enough money in the settlement for herself.

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