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Mel Gibson Custody War -- No Decision

11/23/2010 9:30 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF

The judge in the Mel Gibson/Oksana Grigorieva custody battle royale will not make any decision on changing custody ... until December at the earliest.

Mel Gibson Custody Battle
The hearing is over for the day and no decision has been reached.

Oksana was on the stand for a good part of the day, as well as her mother.  We do not believe Mel testified.

Oksana was grilled about going to the media to tell her story ... and whether she felt that was in the best interest of Lucia.

As we first reported, Mel (pictured above leaving court) wants to strip Oksana of custody and overnights with the baby.  He also wants a monitor for visitation between Oksana and Lucia.  Mel wants the new order for 6 months.

112010_oksana_grigorieva_videoJudge Scott Gordon will pick up testimony sometime in December.


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Ok, not caught up yet. Since her family lawyer, Alan Shifman quit right after the last court date on November 11. Who is representing her as the family lawyer today? And what # lawyer are we up to?

1400 days ago


I hope at least Oksana got a good well needed scare to start shaping up and shutting up. Until december at least.........
Posted at 5:34 PM on Nov 22, 2010 by Belinda

Do you really think Oxymoron is going to shutup? She has Thanksgiving,Christmas and Hanukkah specials to do.

1400 days ago


This does not bode well for Oksana.

Judge Gordon still needs to hear Mel's testimony to make a decision.

He can't make a decision based only on OG's testimony and her mother's.

Need Mel's testimony and the nanny, etc.

Posted at 5:30 PM on Nov 22, 2010 by fuddyduddy

Didn't Mel already testify during the last hearing?

1400 days ago

Fidel's niece    

Something is up!

The judge is waiting for
extortion charges to be filed,
it will be a no brainer for him
to decide who should get Lucia.

Ok$a in jail,
Lucia with Mel -

***Team Mel***

1400 days ago

karen lee    

SORRY! TYPO ... my bad

THIS IS GOOD NEWS for Team Mel. Not so for Ms. G.

IF the judge was going to go against MEL (giving custody to HER instead) -- he would have do so in total. Leaving him to decide on Lucia -- who has the best interests of the baby.

Posted at 5:37 PM on Nov 22, 2010 by karen lee

1400 days ago

Bunny that earns scooby snacks!    

I think the judge gave her some more rope. Do we really think OG will shut up at this stage?

Posted at 5:32 PM on Nov 22, 2010 by Celtic

Does she need more rope? I don't think so.

1400 days ago


Hey, peeps!

Anybody have the link to Ox's people interview transcripts. There will not be any more news tonight. They are on lock down. I need peoples transcripts to study.

Thanks so much.

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Judge Gordon cannot make a ruling if ALL of the evidence is not in. If he would have made a ruling today without hearing all of the evidence, then he would have been in some trouble.

This is good, and I think the evidence will show that OG's actions have not been in the best interest of Lucia.

Posted at 5:36 PM on Nov 22, 2010 by fuddyduddy

This makes sense to me. I'm not a lawyer type but everyone is entitled to due process, right? Is that the correct term? Maybe not, I don't know. lol But it would seem that it could leave a big hole if all testimony and evidence wasn't presented. It would not be considered a fair hearing, is that correct?

1400 days ago


Bringing this over from Tension thread, credit canook for finding it.

November 22, 2010, 1:59 pm
In Family Court With Mel Gibson
Oksana Grigorieva and Mel Gibson at a screening in 2009.Jewel Samad/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images Oksana Grigorieva and Mel Gibson, above in 2009, are engaged in a ferocious custody dispute.

LOS ANGELES — The scene in family court here this morning was a bit like something out of “High and Low,” Akira Kurosawa’s film about a mighty businessman and a lowly chauffeur’s son, caught up in the same drama.

Judge Scott M. Gordon was preparing to deal with a roster of issues in the ferocious dispute between Mel Gibson and Oksana Grigorieva over the custody of and care for their year-old daughter, Lucia. But before getting down to business in that nasty, heavily lawyered legal battle, Judge Gordon gave his full attention to what appeared to be a middle-class couple trying to settle their own family matter.

How much are your union dues, the judge wanted to know.

About $50 a month, the man answered.

Who do you pay for child care?

“My mom,” the woman answered.

The judge, a gray-haired mild-mannered type, patiently helped with the math, worked out a child support formula, and gently explained that the gentleman was in default because he had failed to file paperwork on time.

While the L.A. couple’s domestic drama worked itself out, a battery of attorneys were fidgeting in their seats and preparing for combat in the Gibson-Grigorieva case. The principals were there — separated by as much horizontal space as tiny Department 88 of the Los Angeles County Superior Court would allow.

Ms. Grigorieva, who arrived in dark glasses and a dark suit, sat on the far left. Mr. Gibson, wearing a dark suit and a dark tan, was on the far right. The lawyers in between were backed up by boxes of do***entation, all by way of addressing the dozen issues listed on a calendar tacked next to the courtroom door.

The case was posted anonymously, because family law disputes involving minor children are conducted confidentially. But information from the case has leaked in torrents, especially on the Web site Lawyers involved said in the days before the hearing that they anticipated some fireworks over the leaks.

At least four out of a dozen issues listed for consideration in the case on the anonymous posting by the courthouse door mentioned “contempt,” so the hearing is sure to be a hot one.

But the judge, on wrapping up with the middle-class couple, cleared the courtroom. So the small group of assembled reporters repaired to the hall, to hang out and to figure out how to figure out what was going on inside.

Posted at 5:32 PM on Nov 22, 2010 by canook

Fuddy is right. Before issuing a ruling, any judge needs to hear all the evidence. And in this case, there is a hell of a lot of distortions and distractions to plow through.

1400 days ago


This judge is a discrace to the bench and should be removed immediately. Mel should have been given custody. The judge told her not to speak to the media, she went directly to LKL and he did nothing about it. He should be relieved of his position STAT

Posted at 5:37 PM on Nov 22, 2010 by Don

Because this judge didn't do what you wanted, he's a disgrace to the bench? The judge did not ORDER to not talk to the media, but he did warn her, however the last I heard freedom of speech is a universal right, not just in the USA. How stupid to think you could take a baby from it's mother just because she has a runny mouth.

1400 days ago

Bunny that earns scooby snacks!    

Something is up!

The judge is waiting for
extortion charges to be filed,
it will be a no brainer for him
to decide who should get Lucia.

Ok$a in jail,
Lucia with Mel -

***Team Mel***

Posted at 5:41 PM on Nov 22, 2010 by Fidel's niece

Why delay then?

1400 days ago


Is anyone truly shocked by this? Really?? If the judge was going to modify custody he would have done it RIGHT NOW, not later. Sorry for Mel, he is being railroaded big time.

1400 days ago


Just a note about Mel's attorneys asking for this to be a 6 month deal...

That could be strategy, because sometimes 'temporary' orders have a way of becoming 'permanent' orders. If the custody does get changed to Mel, and at the end of 6 months if things are working well, then they might just stay that way. I think this is Mel's way of saying, hey--the woman is not stable right now, all of her time and energy is being used towards trashing me, let me take care of Lucia while OG is on this rip, and let's revisit this in 6 months. In 6 months, Mel and whoever (nanny, doctor, monitor, GAL, etc.) may provide testimony of how well Lucia is doing, and Judge Gordon will leave those orders in place.

Anyway, this TMZ update is just saying that the hearing is being continued, so no--Gordon cannot make a ruling until all evidence is in.

1400 days ago


Do we really think OG will shut up at this stage?

Posted at 5:32 PM on Nov 22, 2010 by Celtic

I hope not. :P I hope she finally wakes up, fesses up and sings to the feds about Listerman and Co.

1400 days ago

Fidel's niece    


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