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Michael Jackson Concert Tours on Trial

1/1/2011 12:20 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF

TMZ has learned ... Michael Jackson's weakened state during various concert tours throughout his life -- as well as preparations for the London concerts that never took place -- could become powerful evidence in the defense of Dr. Conrad Murray.

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Sources connected with the criminal case tell TMZ ... there's "compelling evidence" that MJ was in weakened health whenever he went on tour. Specifically, people who went on various tours  -- including the "Bad" and "Dangerous" concerts -- say Jackson was frequently "dehydrated, medicated, and sleep-deprived." 

Just like with Dr. Murray, Jackson had a doctor who accompanied him during rehearsals and tours, attending to his needs.

The point ... the grueling concert schedules reduced MJ to a physical mess, prone to relying on and demanding drugs to sleep.
 
The "This Is It" London tour was especially grueling, because AEG added dozens of concert dates for Michael, who was already in an extremely weakened state and terrified he would fail.

All of this dovetails into a defense theory ... that Jackson felt enormous pressure to rehearse for the "This Is It" tour, and when he couldn't sleep he relied on Propofol to do the trick. The defense believes when Murray walked out of the room and Jackson woke up, he accidentally infused himself with a fatal dose of the drug out of frustration and fear. 


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91.

aston    

Michael's fingerprint on syringes and stuff: Not damaging at all. He could have handled those things at any time for any number of reasons - remember, this was a home environment, not a doctor's office, and medical paraphernalia were found strewn around the bed and probably nearby tables. Or if he didn't, it would have been very easy to put his fingerprints on anything when he was unconscious.

1300 days ago
92.

TSIG    

This is excellent news. It means that the defense is desperate and grasping at any pathetic straws it can. Murray is going down, and they know it. Now "Dr." Thome Thome, Al Malkin, and all the rest of them involved with Colony Capital have to worry that Murray is gonna' start singing.

TMZ, you wrote: "The "This Is It" London tour was especially grueling, because AEG added dozens of concert dates for Michael, who was already in an extremely weakened state and terrified he would fail."

What is your source? Did Jackson himself say that he was "terrified he would fail?" If not, it's nothing but hearsay. The coroner said he was is good health, so what is your proof that he was "in an extremely weakened state"? Jackson's weight varied throughout his life, and he has been even more slender than when he died and did a great job on his tours.

Harvey, I agree with a previous poster. You seem to be on Conrad Murray's team. I believe in fair and balanced reporting; however, you are reporting hearsay as fact, and seem too willing to swallow whole, without adequate skepticism, this preposterous idea that Jackson killed himself.

1300 days ago
93.

Cecilia    

@janala14...

thank-you..

happy new year and God bless

1300 days ago
94.

Cathy    

money....money....money........the bottom line in all of this.

Money was the only motivator in this matter..

Posted at 9:52 AM on Jan 1, 2011 by Cecilia

Cecilia your post is amazingly well-said & sadly straight to the bottom of how this whole tragedy took root from the beginning-MONEY, nothing more, nothing less. How sad that MJ's life in the end was held in the hands of someone who cared so little for him & could only see $$$ signs. What MOST saw when they looked at Michael Jackson. Sad beyond words. He was the victim of countless opportunists & in the end, it didn't just cost him financially but he paid with everything he had-his life.

Posted at 10:01 AM on Jan 1, 2011 by janalal4
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Totally agree. Michael would say that "money is the root of all evil." Of course he was right, and in the end all that money - begotten from all that success and fame - destroyed him 1) because it allowed him to do whatever he wanted with ZERO restrictions and 2) because most people no longer saw him as a human being but as a cash machine. Murray's greed overtook any sense of morals or ethics he might have had. Same was true imo, of many of the people who were behind the scenes on This is It.

I remember reading that years ago, when Michael expressed his hesitation to embark on the Victory Tour, Jermaine told him that if he didn't go, they would take a cardboard cut-out of him and put it on stage. I often think of that when I think about those who were putting him through his paces for This is It. Keep him going keep him going - who cares about his mental state or his physical health - as long as some semblance of his body is on that stage come July 2009. Because no body on that stage means no paycheck for us.

1300 days ago
95.

LC4Michael    

I know you all saw "This is it". Most of it was recorded the night before Michael died. He did not look fragile to me. He was out-dancing the younger dancers and flipping and flopping on the floor like he was a teenager! He was glowing and laughing. and I thought he looked pretty damn good. Thin? Yes, but he was never heavy to begin with and I am sure he was very anxious about this tour. He was very clear eyed and was on top of his game. Not the signs of a person who abused drugs for years and years as some claim.

Bottom line is that Michael Jackson is not on trial here. And whatever jury is selected needs to remember that. Manslaughter charges are against Conrad Murray. Will the Defense try to drag Michael's name through the mud? Of course because they do not have a strong enough defense for Murray. They are going to pull out all the stops but in my heart I know the Prosecution is ready for them and justice will prevail.

Keep Michael and his children in your prayers. They know what an awesome father he was. In the end it does not matter what anyone on these boards post or what TMZ posts. Michael was all about LOVE and that is all that matters.

1300 days ago
96.

janalal4    

What was Murray giving Michael the day he said that one side of his body was cold..the other hot?

Posted at 9:52 AM on Jan 1, 2011 by Cecilia

I was just thinking about that. I was also thinking about why Michael called the nurse, Cherilynn Lee, and not the doctor who was hired for a mind boggling salary of 150,000 $ a month! I would like to know the explanation for that.

Posted at 10:12 AM on Jan 1, 2011 by Siggisis

Wasn't the call the Cherilynn Lee on Fathers Day before Murray arrived on the scene in MJ's life? Was that the same time he asked HER to find someone to give him the Propofol? He wouldn't have needed to ask for this if Murray was already treating him I wouldn't think. I was under the impression that the Propofol had only been administered for the 6 weeks leading up to the day he died. So if Murray wasn't giving him something to cause the 'hot/cold' symptoms, you have to wonder who was?? I've always thought Klein played a far larger role in MJ's pharmacological regimine than he has ever admitted to:(

1300 days ago
97.

Siggisis    

Michael's fingerprint on syringes and stuff: Not damaging at all. He could have handled those things at any time for any number of reasons - remember, this was a home environment, not a doctor's office, and medical paraphernalia were found strewn around the bed and probably nearby tables. Or if he didn't, it would have been very easy to put his fingerprints on anything when he was unconscious.

Posted at 10:15 AM on Jan 1, 2011 by aston

You are right. IF Michael´s fingerprint is found on a syringe, it doesn´t prove that he self-injected.

1300 days ago
98.

janalal4    

@janala14...

thank-you..

happy new year and God bless

Posted at 10:17 AM on Jan 1, 2011 by Cecilia

And a 'Happy New Year' to you as well! Good grief, forgot it was New Year's Day, that should tell you all how lame MY 'New Years Eve' was:)....OR, how 'good' it was-hehe

1300 days ago
99.

bigbigfanmj    

At fist I was convinced the doctor would walk.

Now I know he will not.

The reason: at every turn Doctor Murray is burying-HIMSELF!

The more I hear the more I see how he is at fault.

No doctor leaves the room where a patient could inject themsleves with a substance of ANY kind.

People believe because it's Michael Jackson it's different and I think Murrays lawyers are banking on that. But I think the jurors will see themseleves, or a loved one who had a doctor give them propofol or anything, and say I'd be angry if the doctor left that available for my loved one.

The drug makes one groggy, so how does he explain MJ being able to do this in two minutes as he says?

At every turn he makes HIMSELF look guilty.

He'd have been better off and even I would buy it if he said look:

I gave the right dosage, I was licensed to prescribe propofol, I don't know what happened.

And to be fair that would be not guilty because not the doctor, the defense, the prosecution, the judge or the juror could say what happened and he would walk.

But it sounds like no matter what he says he left propofol available for his patient to get and that's a no no.

I think this jury will see Michael Jackson as a human being and that's what will sink Doctor Murray.

1300 days ago
100.

Nex    

The difference is that Michael SURVIVED all of his past concerts, even if using Propofol because the doctors he had were DOING THERE JOB and MONITORING him while on Propofol. This defense is going to fail miserably, especially if he's still trying to go with the angle that Michael injected himself (which forensic experts have stated would be next to impossible). Conrad Murray's story has changed so much, everything from where he was, how long he was gone, what he was doing etc... He wasn't taking a dump, he was on the phone with his stripper girlfriend!

1300 days ago
101.

john    

I AM THE KING, because I get free MJ memoribilia here...

1300 days ago
102.

Cathy    

Did Jackson himself say that he was "terrified he would fail?" If not, it's nothing but hearsay. The coroner said he was is good health, so what is your proof that he was "in an extremely weakened state"? Jackson's weight varied throughout his life, and he has been even more slender than when he died and did a great job on his tours.

Posted at 10:16 AM on Jan 1, 2011 by TSIG
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I don't know if Michael ever said the words, "I'm terrified I will fail", but it does seem fairly certain that he said plenty, over the months of rehearsal from March through June, to the uber-fans who waited for him daily outside the Staples Center. Several of these fans stepped forward immediately after his death to say that Michael expressed to them on numerous occasions that AEG added extra dates without his knowledge and that he was not happy about it. These same fans also said they saw a marked difference (for the worse) in his physical appearance between March and June. They were so concerned in fact, that one of them emailed Karen Faye to ask if she couldn't do something. Several of them actually wrote to MICHAEL, expressing their fear that he was not well, and gave the letters to a bodyguard only a day or two before he died.

I wonder if any of these fans (the ones who were there and talked to Michael fairly regularly during the critical days and weeks) will be asked to testify at trial?

I agree with you that Michael's weight has always varied throughout his life, that he's always been thin, and that he's basically always presented an almost waif-like appearance (waif-like for a man at least).

1300 days ago
103.

an ordinary girl    

It doesnt matter if Michael was dehydrated or sleep deprieved. On all those other tours, Im sure no stupid, money-sucking doctor gave him all those bad and strong drugs together! Of course if Michael was in pain and thought that what he needed was all those pain killers, he was going to ask and pay for them. What human doesnt want to get what they need-at ANY cost? Murry should have been the responsible doctor and said "No" but all he heard was "Money, money money." Idiot.

1300 days ago
104.

Cecilia    

This is a fact:

A member of Michael's band during the TII rehearsals said at one time on his facebook page that he felt very strange negative vibes from this doctor when he met him. That's all I'm going to say about it...

1300 days ago
105.

TSIG    

Cherwood, you wrote in a previous post elsewhere:

"...Murray was connected to Barrack and Colony Capital through Howard Bone of Sun Colony, who owns the note on Murray home that was in foreclosure. Murray was also connected to a well known "Pill Mill" in Houston which may have implicated him and partner Quanell Armstrong in some illegal activities. This is info that could've been used by certain parties to get his cooperation. My theory is that they made him an offer he couldn't refuse..."

This is an excellent piece of detective work -- thank you! And it's one more piece of the puzzle that it seems only the fans themselves are putting together to solve this murder. I assume that Sun Colony is a subsidiary of Colony Capital, and, if so, that is powerful evidence that could speak to motive.

LaToya Jackson is a despicable, repulsive, pathetic creature who has only self-interest at heart, but on this point alone she is right: Conrad Murray was nothing but the fall guy. There are much bigger fish out there behind this murder.

1300 days ago
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