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Charlie Sheen

Bombed in Detroit

4/3/2011 10:50 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Charlie Sheen got heavily booed and people walked out of his show in Detroit tonight.

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According to multiple people inside the Fox Theatre ... the majority of the audience heckled not only Charlie, but his buddy Simon Rex, who came out and started rapping.

We're told Charlie started the show with a Q&A session -- answering audience questions about everything from fave porn stars to crack cocaine (see the crack joke here). Then Charlie played clips from a network interview he did and ripped it apart.

At one point, Sheen tried to deflect the angry crowd by pointing out that he had his own app ... and they didn't (see video above).

That went on for about 30 minutes ... and the crowd was initially cheering for Charlie. He even sent out a twitpic of the enthusiastic audience.

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But then the crowd got ugly.

We're told Charlie called on Simon Rex for backup ... sending him on stage to rap -- and when that backfired they played the new track, "Winning" ... which Snoop Dogg recorded for Charlie. 

We're told that got the crowd fired up ... but when neither Snoop nor Charlie came out on stage they started booing again.

At that point most of the crowd started walking out -- and the house lights were turned on.

We're told Charlie did come back on stage briefly and invited the people who stayed to move up closer to the stage ... but then he started complaining about his audio and walked off the stage.

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jim    

Remember that Bugs Bunny cartoon where he and Daffy Duck are competing for who can get the crowd behind them? Daffy draw crickets from the audience no matter what he does UNTIL he eats nitroclycerin, drinks gasoline and swallows a match? He explodes and the crowd erupts in applause as he ascends to heaven on his little cloud saying "It's a great trick, but I can only do it once." I think this is what we are witnessing with this guy.

1262 days ago
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Kathyo    

ksis,
On some levels I think Brook may be a worse parent but that would take too long to explain...I think I am just more annoyed by the fact that celebrities have such fantastic opportunities that most of us will never have and they are constantly rewarded for bad behavior and never really seem to have a consequence. I haven't seen you be disrespectful with anyone on here and I think I understand the point you've trying to make but understandably that is sometimes more difficult through the written word. I think in the beginning Charlie had some good points because there was definitely hypocrism on his employers behalf but he just went too far off the deep end for me in his arrogance and he lost me.

1262 days ago
708.

angeleyes    

Well ksis I can understand your present stance in this matter. I never watched the 2 1/2 men show until after this public scrutiny came about - I was a viewer of Big Bang Theory though - and liked that show. Can't say that I ever took notice of Charlie Sheen's life prior to this either - nor of his past escapades but I have now taken the time to review his past history, the Vanity cards which I never noticed before and watched the 2 1/2 men show on reruns - I found Charlie Harper funny and likeable. I even went back to see some Spin City shows to get an idea of why Chuck Lorre hired him and wrote the show around the character for him.

Now you raise a point - about the firing - which to me at least seems like the crisis point that was reached by his continued and escalating erratic behaviour. This time he refused any sort of rehab and no doubt the network and his employers were getting pressure from the advertisers and insurance companies to get him in line or they would pull out. For all you or I know they had already pulled out.

From my research his employer Chuck Lorre never has said any bad word about Charlie publicly - as for the vanity card - that's just silly - so why Charlie took offense to it is a mystery to me - whoever dies last gets the last laugh, so that's not the issue -

Were there scripts? I don't know nor do you - Charlie seems miffed that Chuck Lorre had another popular show to write - So he acted like a jilted lover that he wasn't the "most" ego stroked person in Chucks world anymore - no finger sandwiches and massages after one of his public meltdowns -

If you support Charlie merely because he's the underdog in this debacle that's your choice and privilege. I don't see it quite the same way and my support is only given when I see truth and value to the statements. At this point I don't have enough facts and only alot of ranting and ego driven protestations.

The way I read it is Charlie's escapades forced some 200 people to stand around waiting for him to get in shape to do his job - the THM show was on haitus till that happened more than once. His employer got pressure to fix the problem or solve it - and Charlie got sacked. Since he's been protesting and we've started to pay attention.

For all that I don't like his character I do understand some of his choices - he has been married 3 times and is the father of 5 children - with his past actions his best choice for sexual gratification will come from girls he hires - I don't fault him for realizing that - When he gets his head out of the clouds of Mars and becomes a responsible adult - gets control of his ego -and mouth and starts thinking like a businessman he can produce and star in whatever vehicle he chooses. Until then I see him as a massive failure.

1262 days ago
709.

Kathyo    

When he gets his head out of the clouds of Mars and becomes a responsible adult - gets control of his ego -and mouth and starts thinking like a businessman he can produce and star in whatever vehicle he chooses. Until then I see him as a massive failure.
Posted at 1:51 PM on Apr 3, 2011 by angeleyes

I AGREE with this statement. I believe if he can get control of his mouth and especially his EGO, then his career will continue and hopefully he will be able to stay away from drugs as well and maybe one day he will realize that the real meaning of "Winning" and it has nothing do with having money, drugs or porn stars or even admiration from strangers in an audience.

1262 days ago
710.

ksis    

A few points...
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Now you raise a point - about the firing - which to me at least seems like the crisis point that was reached by his continued and escalating erratic behaviour. This time he refused any sort of rehab and no doubt the network and his employers were getting pressure from the advertisers and insurance companies to get him in line or they would pull out. For all you or I know they had already pulled out.
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That's not exactly correct, because he DID agree to a rehab. And they agreed to his CHOICE of a rehab. Chuck Lorre even suggested on of the specialists. Did you know that?
As for the advertisers, there was no statement whatsoever saying that the show lost any of them.
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From my research his employer Chuck Lorre never has said any bad word about Charlie publicly - as for the vanity card - that's just silly - so why Charlie took offense to it is a mystery to me - whoever dies last gets the last laugh, so that's not the issue -
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The vanity cards are worse than public expression of disapproval, imo, because it's like talking to someone in third person singular. I find that degrading and disrespectful. I read all the cards that were mentioning Charlie's life. Chuck Lorre is an ass. Sorry.
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Were there scripts? I don't know nor do you - Charlie seems miffed that Chuck Lorre had another popular show to write - So he acted like a jilted lover that he wasn't the "most" ego stroked person in Chucks world anymore - no finger sandwiches and massages after one of his public meltdowns -
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Charlie always knew that Chuck had two other shows, but he also had TAAHM. The show that was actually making MONEY. BIG money. And despite of his other shows, Lorre's JOB was to present the scripts and start shooting when Charlie came back to work. There were no scripts. And since Chuck never said otherwise, why would I not believe Charlie?
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If you support Charlie merely because he's the underdog in this debacle that's your choice and privilege. I don't see it quite the same way and my support is only given when I see truth and value to the statements. At this point I don't have enough facts and only alot of ranting and ego driven protestations.
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No, I said I support him ALSO because of that. I most definitely see truth and value in his statements. The man stands behind a lot that I believ in myself.
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The way I read it is Charlie's escapades forced some 200 people to stand around waiting for him to get in shape to do his job - the THM show was on haitus till that happened more than once. His employer got pressure to fix the problem or solve it - and Charlie got sacked. Since he's been protesting and we've started to pay attention.
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Those people were supposed to be only on two week hiatus and every single epsidoe was supposed to be taped after Charlie gets back from rehabd. He did. And? There was nothing to shoot. So who is to blame for those people losing their jobs? Did Chuck Lorre or WB cared? They agreed to pay for 4 episodes, after Charlie's lawyer intervened. They were supposed to pay for 8. Which one of those corporate big shots took those people's side in any of it? Charlie is the one that filed the lawsuit on their behalf, and isnnow fighting for them to get paid.
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For all that I don't like his character I do understand some of his choices - he has been married 3 times and is the father of 5 children - with his past actions his best choice for sexual gratification will come from girls he hires - I don't fault him for realizing that - When he gets his head out of the clouds of Mars and becomes a responsible adult - gets control of his ego -and mouth and starts thinking like a businessman he can produce and star in whatever vehicle he chooses. Until then I see him as a massive failure.
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I don't think he has to take his head out of the clouds. If he did that, something like yesterday could make him crash. But because he is focused and strong, I think he will be just fine, despite what happens in Chicago.

Posted at 1:51 PM on Apr 3, 2011 by angeleyes

1262 days ago
711.

ksis    

ksis,
On some levels I think Brook may be a worse parent but that would take too long to explain...I think I am just more annoyed by the fact that celebrities have such fantastic opportunities that most of us will never have and they are constantly rewarded for bad behavior and never really seem to have a consequence. I haven't seen you be disrespectful with anyone on here and I think I understand the point you've trying to make but understandably that is sometimes more difficult through the written word. I think in the beginning Charlie had some good points because there was definitely hypocrism on his employers behalf but he just went too far off the deep end for me in his arrogance and he lost me.

Posted at 1:49 PM on Apr 3, 2011 by Kathyo
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LOL I wonder what you have on Brooke that I don't know about.
Well, I don't see him as arrogant. I see him as responding to people the way they respond to him. For example, Angela Canning from ABC approached him with biased attitude from the start, and he acted like smartass with her through entire interview. I for one loved it.
I think many people underestimate Charlie's intelligence. The guy is not only intelligent but also a talented actor. That's a lethal combination in a case of an interview.

1262 days ago
712.

ksis    

I thought this post belonged here as well.

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I find it absolutely ridiculous how people are booing Sheen and wanting their money back. What hypocrisy...? They all went to the show only because there was hype around Sheen and his recent antics. He was never a stand-up comic nor claimed to be. He's doing his own thing.

People thought that they'd buy a ticket and show off to their friends and hope to just sit there and watch a grown man make a fool of himself... And now the way he executes his 'act of foolishness' is not to the audiences liking.

They complain about Sheen going on rants during the show, yet that's all people have been watching or listening for the past weeks.

Well played Sheen! And if the tour does bomb, at least you proved something for a brief period in history... people always love and believe the hype until it puts a hole in their pockets.

Posted at 2:05 PM on Apr 3, 2011 by Jim

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Again...BRAVO Jim.

1262 days ago
713.

angeleyes    

Kathyo - I hope the same thing for him also - I found his bragging about his drug habits offensive and misleading to those with problems to do it recreationally if they were able - that to me is irresponsible. My view on the man is that he is entirely ego driven. So the sooner he gets a reality check the better for him his family and anyone involved with him.

That being said I have no ill will towards him and hope for his re-establishing his career in a path of his choosing.

1262 days ago
714.

Msmassflex    

KSIS please shut it and let someone else comment ... don't you have a show to prepare for?

1262 days ago
715.

26thirdstreet    

Burn a Koran - you'll get a better reaction

1262 days ago
716.

ksis    

Oh I didn't know I was so powerful that I am stopping people from commenting. LMAO!!!

1262 days ago
717.

Loser    

Jess Lan~

sing for us

1262 days ago
718.

Kathyo    

I do not at all underestimate his intelligence. No doubt he is extremely smart. The arrogance that I refer to is the arrogance in claiming that he is a winner because of the lifestyle he lives and that he is "special" and that the rest of us are just jealous trolls. If he truly believes these remarks and if he truly believes that his webcasts and his performance last night was "winning" material, then he is not only arrogant but delusional. However, if he is simply capitalizing on all the publicity and taking everyone's money, then we are certainly underestimating his intelligence. Anyone who thinks they can use violent language and hurl insults the way he does is an arrogant jerk. He has made references to violent acts on children and he thinks we're supposed to find this entertaining?? You are right, he is focused but I am not so sure that what he is focused on is going to bring him any real respect or happiness. He certainly isn't focused on putting on a good show. I guess we all define success and winning differently and the bottom line is I do not agree with his definition of winning. We all know Hollywood doesn't really care how their stars behave, its all about the money and it seems that a lot of attention, good or bad attention is all that is really needed to be a star these days.

1262 days ago
719.

angeleyes    

ksis - thank you for illuminating your response to me - here's where I find the difference in our thought patterns -

You seem to have taken everything spoken by Charlie as absolute truth with no verifying response back from his employers.
I take his response with a grain of salt - there are always two sides to every dispute. I've yet to hear the other side.

As for the Vanity cards which I have now read more than half of them - Mr. Lorre takes alot of shots at himself - they seem more like the musings of a creative mind to me and very much like thinking out loud - or in this case on screen.

Here's where you and I part ways - I will defend his right to be whatever he chooses to be in his private life as you do, even to his own detriment - but when he impacts the lives of others by his actions I will call him down on that.

As for the "tour" - Charlie is getting what he wants out of it - and that's money - so he's still winning and the disappointed audience who were looking for more melt-down are loosing.
Bazinga!

1262 days ago
720.

Kathyo    

Now that is a WINNING word if ever I heard one,

"BAZINGA"

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