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Winklevoss Twins

Mark Said

He Wanted to F**k Us

4/20/2011 3:30 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss are not giving up on their claim ... Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook defrauded them in settling their beef with the social network -- and they point to two damning IMs.

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The Winklevosses say in new legal papers - obtained by TMZ --  Zuckerberg and Facebook intentionally withheld instant messages sent by Mark in 2004, saying, "Yeah, I'm going to f**k them ... probably in the [ear]."

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In another IM, Zuckerberg told a friend, "But they [the twins] made a mistake haha.  They asked me to make it for them.  So I'm like delaying it so it won't be ready until after the facebook thing comes out."

The Winklevosses settled their dispute with Zuckerberg and Facebook for $65 million, but they've been trying to undo the settlement on grounds they were defrauded. 

The twins lost several rounds in court, but now they are asking a federal appellate court to look at the settlement again, and acknowledge the IMs are proof of fraud and therefore the settlement should be invalidated.

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76.

Sammee    

A little surprised by all the comments skewering the twins. Yes, they came up with an idea. No, they couldn't pull it off themselves due to lack of technical knowledge. That's why they hired MZ to do it for them. That's how most great inventions come to pass. Someone has an idea, and then they hire another person, company, etc. to manufacture it for them. To say that the twins should be happy with $65 million for "just an idea" is ridiculous. Think about how many different products we utilize everyday that we wouldn't have if it weren't for someone's idea. Turns out the twins' idea was a multi-billion dollar one, and MZ screwed them out of it. Show of hands among all of you who would still be happy if someone stole your multi-billion dollar idea (after you hired them to manufacture it for you) and later tried to compensate you with several million for it. No, you wouldn't be skipping down the street about it. You'd be mad as hell too. That being said, the twins signed on the dotted line, which they probably shouldn't have done. I feel for the twins and hope they get what's theirs in the end, but that's probably not going to happen. Really hard lesson to learn.

1179 days ago
77.

JimmyB    

They got a lot more than $65M if 45 of it was in facebook stock.

1179 days ago
78.

l    

Old, Old, Old news. Look at their Wikipedia entry / Zuckerberg's page. Look at the sources at the bottom - he did f them big time. The articles and interview have many IMs, emails and statements that they have not shown elsewhere nor really reflect in the movie except for one part. The fact listed basically not dramatized. Anyhow, it's all there TMZ and he did say that he was delaying everything and stealing their idea. Also, when he found out they were being interviewed by the Harvard paper, he hacked the staff's emails and send emails from their accounts that made them look like jerks. Seriously - there are tracking and email reports and he said and did all of it. It's too bad they didn't think to look ahead to the value of it, but they didn't really know - but their lawyers should have!

1179 days ago
79.

Truth    

YEA, THEY PROLLY GOT SCREWED. THE OTHER FB PARTNER DUDE GOT OVER $1.1 BILLION IN HIS SETTLEMENT. THE FINANCIAL DUDE WHO MARK SCREWED WHO PROVIDED THE FINANCING. THE INDIAN DUDE OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS...

1179 days ago
80.

l    

basically i'm trying to say i agree w/ sammee and Zuck did steal it and send IMs like that. and if he didn't he is a real jerk b/c he is darn sneaky and hacked into the Harvard system, other people's emails and flat out told people he was being sneaky and lying. again, look at his wikipedia entry - at the bottom sources read about the "real facebook" it's where the movie pulled their data from but they didn't include it in the film. only the court portions which are not in that article. the one i refer shows that zuck lied, hacked, and confessed in IMs, emails, etc.

1179 days ago
81.

pinkywhitehead    

Seriously those twins need to move on. They have enough money to start a new business and a Harvard degree to boot. Get over it and move on. However I trust Zuckerburg about as far as I could toss him. If I planned to do business with him I would probably guard myself with some serious contracts. We'll just wait and see what happens when the world gets tired of facebook. Whose ideas will he steal next. Then the twins will have the last laugh.

1179 days ago
82.

newbedave    

CAMERON AND TAYLOR WINKLEVOSS

dave found a site at Harvard called Harvard Connect (later, in 2004 changed to Harvard Connect To You) run by Cameron and Taylor Winklevoss, and dave explained everything about Facebook and the dealings with Zuckerberg, Dustin and Chris and how dave believed that Zuckerberg was in the process of stealing david idea, and dave asked if the Winklevosses were interested in running Facebook on the Harvard site
DAVID found out later on that the winklevoss contacted WAYNE CHANG and sold 50% of the idea facebook my god how f..ing dumb can you get .all the winklevoss had to do was go hire a team of programmers or learn to program on their own .and the idea facebook was a sound and solid idea . tell the truth about facebook WAYNE CHANG and about the WINKLEVOSS BS

1179 days ago
83.

Desiree    

amazing that you can get 65 million for an idea that you had and then go Bitc# about it and ask for more, REALLY???? OMG is all I can say,,,,

1179 days ago
84.

Gina    

Zuckerberg is such a slimy little greaseball

1179 days ago
85.

CrashAndBurn    

Wonder twin powers activate... in a form of... a punk ass.

1179 days ago
86.

riottgirl    

I hope Zuckerberg is the one who gets f*&k'd!

1179 days ago
87.

Eric    

Zuckerberg is quite the little prick.

1179 days ago
88.

Attila    

They got 65 million.Why don't you invest that money in something.Let's how creative these douche twins.Otherwise SHUT UP!!!

1179 days ago
89.

martin    

they took the 65mil and now trying to undo settlement.. well then, give back the 65mil. Mark Zuckerberg as we know it is Facebook. Winkles.. keep the 65mil and enjoy life!

1179 days ago
90.

Jennifer moon    

I hate these two a##holes! Shut the hell up you stupid pricks. They are once again riding on the coat tails of MZ. I wish I could be on the jury for this civil lawsuit. I wouldn't award them sh#t!

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