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Oksana's Tape Expert Claims No Monkey Business

4/24/2011 11:15 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

TMZ has gotten hold of Oksana Grigorieva's ammo in her war with Mel Gibson over whether her secret recordings were edited ... and O.G.'s expert claims they're the real deal.

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TMZ has obtained a declaration Kent Gibson, a forensic audio expert who examined the 18 recordings from Oksana's computer -- 9 are voicemails from Mel and 9 are recorded conversations between Mel and Oksana.  By the way, check out the times the various calls were made -- interesting.

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In his declaration filed in the family law case and obtained by TMZ, Kent says, "In my professional opinion as a forensic audio examiner, I conclude that the recordings have not been modified, and can be considered authentic."

Oksana is pissed at Mel for saying the tapes were edited.  However, in Mel's interview with deadlinehollywood.com, when Mel talks about edited tapes, he appears to be referring to the tapes that were leaked in the media.  In other words, it's possible the recordings in Oksana's computer are pristine but they were later edited before going online.

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31.

observer77    

observer77 less than a minute ago
hi karls/shocker

glad you're having a good easter sunday; we are as well because hubby got home a few days ago so we are enjoying our time with him. today i baked a ham, scalloped potatoes (nothing like what you aussies call scalloped potatoes!), roasted beets, butternut pumpkin, carrots, and steamed some brussels sprouts. we all ate too much!

easter - i sure do miss being able to decorate WHITE eggs with the little ones here in oz....the colors turn out prettier, not dull and muddy. for those not living here, you can only buy BROWN eggs in the grocery stores.

and karls, i wasn't obsessing about you; you are a sweetheart, i'm sure. i just didn't see the funny side of being mean spirited towards those who contribute so much, that's all. you've got more kindness in you than that.

amor et pax

1223 days ago
32.

Jus Another Viewer    

I choose to believe THIS expert! He's not hired by EITHER side. CBS asked him to authenticate those (FAKE) tapes, and he did JUST that. He said they were EDITED! THIS guy is an expert, he has NOTHING to gain from his analysis - unlike Oksanas HIRED goon.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/mel-gibson-tapes-tampered-11169063

(Just my opinion here: i'll say, ANYONE with a soundboard and a recorder can make ANYONE say ANYTHING with those things!)

1223 days ago
33.

Karls    

I think its coming up now, because Oksana has to defend herself she is a victim of Mels lies? that will be her excuse. But what she is showing everybody is what a really bad liar she is. She might have got away with extortion but she sure hasnt gotten away with her reputation in tact. What a stupid do***ent to leak? It has even TMZ pointing out the voicemail timing.

1223 days ago
34.

Karls    

It has even TMZ pointing out the voicemail timing.
I mean calls* not voicemail timing

1223 days ago
35.

realist    

After 3 a.m. here, gotta hit the sack. Good night all.

1223 days ago
36.

jack-55d79    

Wasn't she using some kind of iPhone recording App? Which means the times could refer to the time files were created, rather than the times the calls were made/received. Unless it was automatic on receipt of a call - i.e. she didn't have to launch an App. If recording requires some kind of user action it could be only the worst calls were recorded, and that it is free of context.

Also we don't know if the recording App splits files automatically meaning #2 and #3, with the contradictory times, could be an idiot mislabelling two files of the same call (where #2 has an actual length of 7:27) but only noting the total call time with #2 because it's the start of the same recording. Or whether she stopped and started recording with #2 and #3 as part of the same call, or with the any of the others, which would be suspicious in itself. Or whether her iPhone has/had the correct time. I don't think iOS has a default NNTP client, so the files would have to be correlated with call records.

I won't see a Mel Gibson film because I don't want to pay for it, potentially indirectly giving him money. Not because of this incident, but because I'm not sure he disagrees with his father. So I'm really not a fan. Mad Max was good. However, in the instance, he could have a point and she's lying by omission. The recordings/files need to correlated against call records to show that's not the case. Could be she didn't record calls that would make her look bad too. It is more difficult to verify digital files, and I imagine involes lots of staring at spectral frequency graphs, but the call records would put some of that to bed. It's odd Mel Gibson hasn't shown his call records also, because if they didn't match it would help him a lot. I guess they do match which is why they haven't been produced to repudiate voicemail/recording times etc...

1223 days ago
37.

Karls    

Wasn't she using some kind of iPhone recording App? Which means the times could refer to the time files were created, rather than the times the calls were made/received. Unless it was automatic on receipt of a call - i.e. she didn't have to launch an App. If recording requires some kind of user action it could be only the worst calls were recorded, and that it is free of context.

I thought it could have been the time the files were created. The voice memos app she was using to record also has the time/date and length of time of the recording. It makes a new record each time you stop recording. So it seems impossible to add to an already existing file.

1223 days ago
38.

Karls    

I havent seen it Ira
But I must run the bed is calling
have a good one :)

1223 days ago
39.

jayjay    

How can anyone believe anything she says after how she has acted through this whole ordeal! Who would listen to one of her experts? Just like the lies her dentist has told. We all have seen the smiling dental photos! What about the experts on the morning shows who said the tapes were tampered with. There were many of them. Of course, she needs to be apart of this now. We already heard from her too many times. She can't just let Mel speak now.
She's jealous because he has movies coming out again and is making another one now. He will make it out of this just fine. It's really none of anyone's business about those calls. We should not have heard them. If she really loved her kids,she should have thought about her children and his children and how much this would hurt them all instead of how much $ she could make from this.
Many people want to see his movies. He is one of the best actors and directors ever!

1223 days ago
40.

champix_o    

Well, as ever the devil is in the detail :)

“…Mel talks about edited tapes, he appears to be referring to the tapes that were leaked in the media.

In other words, it's possible the recordings in Oksana's computer are pristine

but they were later edited before going online.”

I read it that even TMZ agrees/implies that the tapes were edited ..
Ken Gibson says (on the knowledge of Ox’s computer content only, I presume) that “the recordings have not been modified, and can be considered authentic." He doesn’t address the ROL tapes as other audio experts did.
ROL said the tapes were “authentic” – HOW would they know? Have they provided the ‘authentic’ tapes to LASD :)
Anyway “authentic” may only prove that it was actually Mel’s voice on the recordings.

The declaration doesn’t prove the published tapes were not edited!

Could it be that there was a GOOD reason that MG stated so publicly that the tapes were edited? And not just to ‘rattle her cage’ but for more profound reasons – we all know how stupid, unintelligent and camera/fame hungry Ox & Co team is :)))Do you guys get the same feeling :-)

Once again ..

“…Mel talks about edited tapes, he appears to be referring to the tapes that were leaked in the media.

In other words, it's possible the recordings in Oksana's computer are pristine

but they were later edited before going online.”

1223 days ago
41.

jayjay    

This is old news! Who wants to go over and over it again! Let's move on now!

1223 days ago
42.

gonesi    

at 10:56pm there is a 12minute, 28 sec recording.

at 10:57pm there is another one that is 5 minutes long.

How do you do that? If you are still on the phone for another 12 minutes and 28 seconds...How can you possibly be calling back in 1 minute later at 10:57?

Can Mel be talking at the same time to her in two separate conversations?

She is soooo stupid. Even her ..."expert" has a question mark next to it.

The reason Hollywood was so pizzed with him is not that he lost his temper, but they he would get invovled with someone of this calibur that would do such a thing. Believe me, the place is filthy with them. He knew to check to see if she was crazy before he fooled with her and he didn't. She didn't just whind up like this. She has always been the same. He should have checked her out.

1223 days ago
43.

champix_o    

Maybe it is worth to re-post again what other Audio Experts said about the PUBLISHED / leaked tapes __
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Proving Mel Gibson Audio Rants Were Fake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YvgwsT0300 - faking tapes

http://www.hollyscoop.com/mel-gibson/forensic-expert-mel-gibson-tapes-have-been-tampered-with_24473.aspx

Forensic Expert: Mel Gibson Tapes Have Been Tampered With
July 14, 2010 by: Ani Esmailian

If you listened to the Mel Gibson tapes, you probably noticed how clean and professional the tapes sound.

Oksana's voice sounds like a voice over while Mel's is a little fuzzier. There's definitely something fishy about the tapes and now we may know why.

Hollywood Life spoke to Arlo West, CEO of Creative Forensic Services, best known for his work on the Natalee Holloway case, who reveals the audio rants between Mel and his ex-girlfriend Oksana have been tampered with.

“These copies were professionally made for distribution,” says forensic audio and video expert, Arlo. “Their quality is extraordinary … I would be willing to bet that someone with a background in recording these types of messages helped Oksana do so to entrap Gibson. I would also expect that a person or persons also helped her edit the recordings.”

Arlo says these recordings have been professionally edited to possibly eliminate words or piece together phrases. Makes sense!

“The audio files were most certainly edited intentionally and the forensic terminology for this, is tampering,” says Arlo. “The edits that I found would have been done post-recording and are clearly done to redact dialog — which means to intentionally remove words,” says Arlo. (You can see in the photo below an audio example from one of the rants that contained two edits).

“I can tell there are gaps and edits in several ways by using waveform analysis and zero crossing analysis. These are most certainly digital recordings so there is no tape involved.”

We're certainly not defending Mel and his crazy rants, but there's something not right about the tapes. Check out the tapes HERE and judge for yourself.

1223 days ago
44.

Jus Another Viewer    

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U-ZChyh59c

Oksana on Larry King Live, says it's an app called "Voice Memos" jump 13:00 mins into the video. She is talking about the recording of the calls. Garbus is also commenting on the calls.
Back when this interview first aired it was pointed out that "Voice Memos" wasnt able do what she claimed to have done with it.
If you haven't seen the interview in it's entirelty it is quite humorous. Her body language is extremely telling.. She has a HARD time believing herself, as evident by her quirks, and movements while re-telling HER script!!

1223 days ago
45.

champix_o    

Another re-post __ re iphone
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IPhone

Everytime your iphone docks with your computer, for charging, all files are synchronized. Each file is shared from machine to machine.
Unless otherwise programmed, but who does that? you can share files without connection, there are some apps that let you share files without docking.
This is important to understand in the termology:
Each time she went to charge her iphone those recordings were altered and edited. Each new instance of intergration is recorded on her computer as a single instance unique from others. Once she stores those recordings on a device she is editing them, she is labeling them, altering them. These are tiny details but they are details that she denies.
She did not make the recordings for the police or for the world or for her mother. Her sister is none of those people. The evidence suggests her sister heard the recordings before MG did.
She sent MG the recordings on May 2nd from her phone. Maybe she already played thim for him? Maybe she said something like : "Listen to what I have, please just send me the check so I can buy Lucia pampers. I don't want to have to get a lawyer" She has already texted him this type of conversation, I imagine it's possible they had already discussed this over the phone or in person.
Posted at 11:17 PM on Nov 19, 2010 by Tony
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