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Charlie and Denise FACE OFF Over Their Kids

5/11/2011 8:30 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Charlie Sheen and his ex-wife Denise Richards went to battle at an L.A. lawyer's office yesterday over a custody agreement regarding their kids ... and TMZ has learned the Warlock did NOT emerge victorious.

Charlie Sheen Custody
Sources connected to the negotiation say Charlie wants his daughters Sam and Lola for weekends ... but Denise has had deep concerns about the welfare of the children and under current circumstances, she does not want Charlie to have the kids.

When the two faced off yesterday -- we're told there were "neutral third parties in the room" who agreed  with Denise that Charlie should not have the kids.

We're told the matter is NOT going to go to court ... and right now, Charlie will not get the visits he wants.

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Jack DaCarup    

Both my girls grew up without a father figure in their lives and both are doing well, both have jobs and 1 just graduated college and will be going to Temple in the fall. My younger daughter begins college in the fall as well.

I don't think Denise is a bitch in this matter at all. She has made many attempts to reach out to Charlie in the past. However, in my opinion, she has come to the realization that Charlie needs help...like many of his other close friends and family do.
I don't think Charlie should be denied seeing his children either...just not in the state of mind he is in of late.

So that's the way we dress to go to court these days? Moobs...lol

1227 days ago
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ksis    

Elle0375 9 minutes ago

ksis 4 minutes ago
Love how Charlie wants to have a relationship with his kids and LOVE how deniying it makes Denise look like a bitch. It's not like he wants to take them away. He wants weekends. Big ****ing deal.
Oh and love how he mocked TMZ. LOL!

Um, Charlie can't even keep a relationship going with a PAID whore (bree). Youngs girls need not to be around this first class A hole who only treats women like a sperm dumpster. Denise is protecting her children as she should, and can. Those girls are much better off without the man-child who is nothing more than a sperm donor. His reasons for wanting the girls has nothing to do with the girls, it's all about him, as it always is and has been.

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Person's relationships with women/men have nothing to do with this person's relationships with the kids.
He is entitled to see them and they are entitled to spend time with him. Just like any father who hasn't hurt his kids and NO, battling with their mother does NOT qualify here, imo.
Oh and you don't really know what his reasons are, do you?

1227 days ago
48.

Friend?    

At least Charlie Sheen loves, support and fight for his kids unlike several dads around the world!

1227 days ago
49.

Jackie    

YOU'RE LOSING!...WHOA!!!

1227 days ago
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jacksonfive210    

I think its funny that tmz straight belined it to charlie over denise and then just showed her from afar and didnt try and run her down like they always do to everyone else.

1227 days ago
51.

Michelle    

Thank God! All too often the courts are desperate to "reunite" kids with their absent parent, even when it's not in their best interest. Charlie is not stable enough. Those horrible rants about teaching his kids to say "rehab" and crap like that is just awful. I feel sorry for these kids. :(

1227 days ago
52.

adriane     

I hope this is not going to last long and he will be able to see and be with his girls soon.I think that if Richards realy had her girls interest at heart she would find a way to let them see there father. I think that Sheen honestly loves his children. There are so many people who do not want anything to do with there own children,it is a shame when someone wants to be a part of there children's lives there are not allowed to.

1227 days ago
53.

Jack DaCarup    

is 36 minutes ago Elle0375 9 minutes ago

ksis 4 minutes ago
Love how Charlie wants to have a relationship with his kids and LOVE how deniying it makes Denise look like a bitch. It's not like he wants to take them away. He wants weekends. Big ****ing deal.
Oh and love how he mocked TMZ. LOL!

Um, Charlie can't even keep a relationship going with a PAID whore (bree). Youngs girls need not to be around this first class A hole who only treats women like a sperm dumpster. Denise is protecting her children as she should, and can. Those girls are much better off without the man-child who is nothing more than a sperm donor. His reasons for wanting the girls has nothing to do with the girls, it's all about him, as it always is and has been.

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Person's relationships with women/men have nothing to do with this person's relationships with the kids.
He is entitled to see them and they are entitled to spend time with him. Just like any father who hasn't hurt his kids and NO, battling with their mother does NOT qualify here, imo.
Oh and you don't really know what his reasons are, do you?

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Personal relationships with kids can be affected by a relationship with a man/ woman. Especially in Charlie's case were it is apparent he is mentally unstable.

1227 days ago
54.

Elle0375    

ksis says:

Person's relationships with women/men have nothing to do with this person's relationships with the kids.
He is entitled to see them and they are entitled to spend time with him. Just like any father who hasn't hurt his kids and NO, battling with their mother does NOT qualify here, imo.
Oh and you don't really know what his reasons are, do you?


Actually they do, all a child has to be is present when he is around his paid girls and they are exposed to that type of unhealthy 'relationship'. No child needs to see that women are nothing more than an object, bought and paid for. No different than a child growing up in a home where the father is physically abusive to their mother, he may not touch the child but they are witness to it and therefore abused 2nd hand. It's called emotional abuse.

And yes, I do know Charlie's reasons are, and he proves it to everyone every time he opens his crack-smoking hole. He is a narcissist, the only one who is important in his life is HIM. What I don't understand is why you would call Denise a bitch, she is protecting her girls from this sad life of his. Not everyone wants their children to grow up to be hookers/pornstars. He made this herpes infested bed, not Denise, he can lay in it.

1227 days ago
55.

Dan    

Bummer - Charlie's not getting the kids. Now on to plan B for 'How to Garner New Media Coverage'. Maybe he should crash Oprahs last show taping

1227 days ago
56.

Jack DaCarup    

Don't give him any ideas Dan. LOL

1227 days ago
57.

jacksonfive210    

I would be pissed too if I was forking over 55 grand a month for kids I cant even spend the weekend with. Plus denise is making her own money I just find that crazy. I remember awhile ago charlie couldnt even hire his own nanny to help out with the kids he had to share denises nanny and the nanny would go back and tell denise all the things charlie was doing plus charlie was mad at denise for calling him almost 20 times a day.

1227 days ago
58.

CC    

The court sees what most others do - the kids are better off without Chucky Sleeze. What doesn't matter is whether Denise is denying Sleezy access (the right decision) or whether Sleezy is looking more more access (the wrong decision). All that counts is that the court recognizes that Sleezy shouldn't be granted additional access to the kids. The big winner in this one - THE KIDS. Yeah!!!!!!

Maybe if Brooke can get her act together the court will limit Sleezy's access to that batch of kids as well. One can only hope.....

1227 days ago
59.

Nancy    

Obviously, weekend visitation is not part of the custody or visitation arrangement that CHARLIE agreed to in the divorce. Thus, I don't think that it makes much sense to say he's pissed he can't have the kids over a weekend because of the child support.

The mere fact that they met in an attorney's office instead of court indicates that Charlie is attempting to talk Denise into amending the visitation arrangements of her own volition - without involving the court. Frankly, *I* think he did it this way because he knows he doesn't stand the chance of a snowflake in a warm place of getting what he wants by going through a judge.

1227 days ago
60.

chloe    

If he wasn't paying his child support he'd be locked up and she'd be the first person to file. I believe he pays for HER lifestyle and that should at least let him see his kids. She has no problem cashing the HUGE check she gets from him and even worked with him to get even more so now she has a problem.When he was in NY with her and flipped out she let him see his kids and even with the knife incident with his other ex she still let them see him, now that his unemployed and she sees that maybe that well is drying up her concern is there. Give me a break Denise you are so pathetic. Money is all you care about. You married him and had his children and that is their father he has a right to see them if not he shouldn't have to pay. GET A JOB!

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