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Oksana Probably Won't Use Tapes Against Mel

5/12/2011 9:50 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

The secret tapes that made Mel Gibson really famous in a bad way are about to become irrelevant.


Oksana Grigorieva's lawyer, Dan Horowitz, told the judge in the custody case this AM that he may not even introduce the racial and other tirades into evidence. 

It's not shocking that Horowitz is backing off the tapes.  A few weeks ago he told the judge Oksana would not be raising the domestic violence issue in the case.

The tapes could surface if Oksana files a civil lawsuit against Mel, but it's starting to look iffy at best that such a case would even be filed.  Oksana's damages would be limited, even if she won, so it may not be financially worth the trouble.


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@Tell Yes, if Harvey had anything that looked like Ox at a distant he quickly realized it was Miss Sweden. He isn't stupid! LOL

@Lori Liar liar pants on fire... no photos, no reconciliation.
Go get yourself one of Oxy's Bitch Baster kits that Tell and I were describing. You might be a happier person

@Fidel's Niece Ox was probably shopping family lawyers as soon as she banked the first dose of Mel goo. I'm sure she was perpetually milking Dalton for more money - or whatever she could get from him, including his silence- as well.

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Tellthetruth59 about a minute ago

If pictures exist, my prediction is they are blurry telephoto lens crap and the woman in the pictures is actually Dani Karlsson. Next question would be was Dani Karlsson sent to set Mel up for Ox's Plan B.

I hadn't even considered that possibility Tell, but it makes A LOT of sense!

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@FN and Frieda - I think she went after Dalton for more money and cried about abuse to Mel. I suspect it may be part of the evidence in this case we haven't heard.

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Puhp.. Stell whool? All he needs is some hair dye.
Just as long as all the other parts still works.. who cares?!!

1260 days ago


He must have paid her off. MM's got that wrinkle in his earlobe which means he's a prime candidate for a heart attack. He's looking so awful and old. His hair is like steel wool now. Should have taken better care of himself with all of that money he had.
@Poop Why would he pay off a thief? He wouldn't give her a red cent because she'd only use it against him. She wants revenge and infamy as much as money. And now she is JEALOUS of Miss Sweden.

Mel looks great for his age and still stands out in a crowd. Women still adore him. He has a great personality and is a ton of fun to hang out with, not to mention a good father. He isn't TUPPERWARE like Ox, that's all. He also isn't for sale so he doesn't have to truss himself up like a whore does.

Beauty is only skin deep - Oxy has neither! LOL

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The chance of those tapes coming into court would be slim, and that would be on a good day.

Oksana's Layers would have had deal with the issue of the Two Party Rule, and that would have been frought with problems as Mel would have an expectation of Privacy in a coversation that was between the two.

The fact that Oksana withdrew her previous claims in the Family case indicates that her Lawyers didn't think she may be able to come across as sincere on the stand in a cross examination.

The other thing that would be of concern is the validity of her claims and thus proving them in court as a lot of her claims would fall towards Heresay as there is a lot of questionable cir***stances toward her "evidence" and what took place.

Any Lawyer worth their money is not going to risk that their client may be a liability on the stand, if they don't make a good witness, you do not put them on the stand.

The same would go to Evidence that would questionable, if it is going to be picked apart and not be able to stand scrutiny, then you don't use it, why would you put something forth that you know could be detrimental to your case

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She cried on Mr. Mel about all sorts of things. Poor support and abuse from Mr. Timothy. Having her "rights" infringed by Sam Oriti. Being kicked out of David Foster's house.

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Hi all, just popping in for a second, but Mel's aging quickly has nothing to do with how he takes care of himself and everything to do with the stress Ox has caused him over his career and family, especially his 2 underage children. To him, his children come first.

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Fidel's niece    


ABC NEWS TV Los Angeles at 11.38 AM

just reported what they originally
stated and I posted here...

Like i asked before,
why did she need a family lawyer in 2008?
was she planning on taking Dalton to court
for more child support for Alexander?

In 2008 she was "happy with Mel"
We did not know about her & Mel
until The Edge of Darkness Boston set
photos came out in the Enquirer...

In 2009 she sued Sam Oritti and Mel
helped her (with his money too)...
so was she going to use Mel's help and
his money to sue Dalton in 2008 or 2009?

This manipulating calculating bitch,
surely knows how to USE men to get
what she wants...

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Alcamedes -
Hiya :) Always a pleasure to see you.

What is your take on the conflict of interest attempt to get Attorney Kolodny disqualified?

1260 days ago


If Angelina 2.1 were hired by Gibson as "beard" to cover for photos, she wouldn't be rearranging her blog and denying involvement with Gibson and removing his name.

BTW, "Ding Dong" the "Witch isn't Dead" and it's 2 DUIs for Gibsob.

1260 days ago


"ThinkingWoman 31 minutes ago
@FN - Those dates are interesting aren't they.


@Puckett - Only important if he gives a flying rat's patootie. If he does, he'll do what he has to do. If he doesn't, he'll keep on keeping on with whatever he desires."


Yeah your right. F&ck Jodie Foster and everyone else who has millions invested in the Beaver, just to have Mel **** all over the place with his personal problems and stink it up, delaying the movies release and by the time it is released, his rep is in the toilet (despite being paid top dollar because of the rep he had prior to screwing everything up for them).

F&ck them. Why should he care enough to go out and apologize to his public and butter them up to go see Jodie's movie? He can afford to retire and just walk away if he wants. F*ck everyone else who has their hard earned money riding on him. That's their problem, right? I mean the whole world owes Mel right? We're lucky he still works at all and should just shut up and thank him for it. :snicker: /sarcasm

This isn't just about Mel rehabilitating his reputation for his own ego's sake. A lot of people have a lot of money riding on him and so far he's f*cked things up royally for them.

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I mean steel wool.

What does a wrinkle on the ear have to do with having a heart attack? If Oksana hasn't given that man a heart attack by now, I don't think having a wrinkle will, or he would have a heart attack a long time ago. Na.. all he needs to do is spend less on the bimbos and go get his face done. A little dye and a little botox and we have our Tim back. That man will always be attractive, even when he is in his 70's steel wool or no hair at all, that man is a stud.

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Another take on why the recordings won't be used. I thought the caption under the photo was interesting.

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TMZgossip less than a minute ago

oh i'm sure that's the case greenie
30 years of being an alcoholic & chain smoking wouldn't have any effect on someone's aging process

good call!!!!!!

Yea, but he didn't start aging fast until the gold digger started her crap. Look at earlier pictures when they were getting along. His hair wasn't near as gray. What was that, not even 2 years ago?

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