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Dr. Murray Will NEVER Cop a Plea in MJ Death

6/25/2011 6:20 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Sources directly connected to Dr. Conrad Murray tell TMZ ... the Doc will not accept any plea bargain from the L.A. County District Attorney in the Michael Jackson manslaughter case.

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We're told Dr. Murray feels so strongly about his innocence, even a plea with no jail time would be out of the question. 

Fact is ... Dr. Murray shouldn't hold his breath, because no plea bargain has been offered and sources tell us the D.A. will not offer one.

As for Murray's defense ... we're told the centerpiece revolves around the fact that only two people were in the room around the time MJ died, and Murray insists he did not administer the fatal dose of Propofol.

The operating theory of Murray's lawyers -- when the Doc left to go to the bathroom, a frustrated MJ woke up and administered the fatal dose himself in a desperate attempt to get some sleep.

So we ask ...



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Lyell Dmariejrzy

I had thought Michael did slowly kill himself, with all his doctors that enabled him. Rabbi Schmuli has tapes of Michael and he was very unhappy and very aware of his actions. Dr. Conrad is guilty, but not of murder, but of neglect and greed. We lost the King of Pop by so many factors, he was a genius who was very intelligent.

Mr. Clean jealous of kate

It will never ever end, MJ's fans will always think of him as a God who was not a drug abuser, who was a SAINT, and was murdered. Others see him-some as a pedophile, where some kids have never come foward (and yes, I know, the last case was BS, a family smelling $$$$), a con artist that stole tapes from Paul Anka, (big embarrassment for the estate with that BIG Thing with the handcuffs and briefcase escorting the case to be delivered and it was an old so so song of Anka's, and Anka was NICE ABOUT IT). MJ was in deep debt when he died, but he still was a big enabler to his family ('cept Janet, maybe laToya, and not to Reba)Those idiot brothers NEVER GREW UP BECAUSE OF HIM. NEVER LEARNED RESPONSIBILITY. In Debt, he put his mother into a MANSION! She did not need a mansion, a nice house maybe, but not a mansion and all that money a month. HE WAS THE SUPREME ENABLER AND BECAUSE OF THIS, NOT ONE OF THEM HAD THE BACKBONE TO COME FORWARD TO TRY TO HELP HIM COME CLEAN. His death, HIS FAULT, BUT HIS FAMILY STOOD BY AND WATCHED! They did not want to lose their allowances, so it was better not to talk to him then to help him or keep him from DYING!!!! So, in guilt, they blame others!!!!

SUN Scottt

In my opinion Dr. Murray was at worst an "ENABLER", and is not a murderer, quite the opposite. Wether he died with the Propofol or not, it was going to happen sooner than later. I (being a former prescription pain killer addict), know that it was just a matter of time. This addiction leads to 2 things: Jail, or Death, and being Michael Jackson, you don't go to jail....

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Lyell Dmariejrzy

I had thought Michael did slowly kill himself, with all his doctors that enabled him. Rabbi Schmuli has tapes of Michael and he was very unhappy and very aware of his actions. Dr. Conrad is guilty, but not of murder, but of neglect and greed. We lost the King of Pop by so many factors, he was a genius who was very intelligent.

Mr. Clean jealous of kate

It will never ever end, MJ's fans will always think of him as a God who was not a drug abuser, who was a SAINT, and was murdered. Others see him-some as a pedophile, where some kids have never come foward (and yes, I know, the last case was BS, a family smelling $$$$), a con artist that stole tapes from Paul Anka, (big embarrassment for the estate with that BIG Thing with the handcuffs and briefcase escorting the case to be delivered and it was an old so so song of Anka's, and Anka was NICE ABOUT IT). MJ was in deep debt when he died, but he still was a big enabler to his family ('cept Janet, maybe laToya, and not to Reba) Those idiot brothers NEVER GREW UP BECAUSE OF HIM. NEVER LEARNED RESPONSIBILITY. In Debt, he put his mother into a MANSION! She did not need a mansion, a nice house maybe, but not a mansion and all that money a month. HE WAS THE SUPREME ENABLER AND BECAUSE OF THIS, NOT ONE OF THEM HAD THE BACKBONE TO COME FORWARD TO TRY TO HELP HIM COME CLEAN. His death, HIS FAULT, BUT HIS FAMILY STOOD BY AND WATCHED! They did not want to lose their allowances, so it was better not to talk to him then to help him or keep him from DYING!!!! So, in guilt, they blame others!!!!

SUN Scottt

In my opinion Dr. Murray was at worst an "ENABLER", and is not a murderer, quite the opposite. Wether he died with the Propofol or not, it was going to happen sooner than later. I (being a former prescription pain killer addict), know that it was just a matter of time. This addiction leads to 2 things: Jail, or Death, and being Michael Jackson, you don't go to jail....

Lyell Carl

Enabling an addict is a crime, especially when it is a doctor doing it. Yes, Michael, like all people, are ultimately responsible for their own actions. But when others do actions that are obviously harmful (directly or indirectly) to another person they need to be held accountable. Basically, if Murray and other doctors refused to knowingly give him harmful medications Jackson would probably be alive today.

Mr. Clean wow

Dr. Murray accepted the position knowing full well what it entailed. He wanted all the perks that came with the job and along with that came the responsibility. He can't have it both ways. Dr. Murray took an oath to act in the best interest of the patient and he failed miserably. He should lose his license. MJ was a kind and gifted person. He was a humanitarian with a wonderful smile but he wasn't perfect and lived in a "bubble" at times. It's unfortunate he became addicted to painkillers and propofol for he was always against drugs. Unfortunately, it can happen to anyone as only too many know. It's a shame he couldn't find an alternative to propofol for his insomnia or at least taken better precautions.

SUN KikiOttawa

Dr. Murray is guilty of failing to put MJ’s health and wellbeing before everything else. Did Dr. Murray make MJ an addict? No, MJ did that but Dr. M certainly enabled, provided legal access to drugs and assisted MJ in his addiction. He deserves to be punished in an appropriate manner. That is to say, the public trial is not fair as had his patient been Joe Blow from Noweheresville, Arizona, none of this attention would be on him. He did wrong, but the prosecution seems to be geared to who the patient was not what the doctor did. He should be subjected to the same sanctions for his part in MJ’s death as he would in Joe Blow of AZ.

Lyell Stef

MJ was a drug addict...no doubt about it..but Dr. Murray was a doctor who did NOT keep the oath he took when he became a doctor to 'do no harm'. He, along with others, supplied MJ with drugs and in Murray's case, Propofol-something that was NOT to be used outside of a hospital/surgical facility setting and more importantly is NOT used to treat insomnia. Of course he's responsible. He left the room and left his patient while giving him the Propofol. He's an a**. Heaven help the morons who continue to use him as their physician.

Mr. Clean Satish Desai

Here is a suggested defense for Dr. Murray that might get him out of trouble:

Dr. Murray was a paid employee of Michael Jackson's promoter company - whatever the name was. In other words, Dr. Murray was not free to act on his own, as an independent professional who had control on what treatment he can give to his patient, without the fear of loosing his job. He was rather, obligated to follow the instructions of his employer, or else get fired.

As such, Mr. Murray (not Dr. Murray in this case) can not be held responsible for injuries or death caused by his actions which were performed under immediate control of his employer. The state would have to prove that Murray injected certain drug without the consent of MJ, in defiance of MJ's instructions, and with the intention of harming MJ.

To prevent such tragedies in the future, the State of California would have to pass a law prohibiting employment of physicians by their patients.

SUN Ziggy

I love Michael dearly, but he was an addict. I believe he was impatient, and frustrated, and likely gave himself a massive dose when he couldn't get to sleep. Having said that, Mr. Murray illegally brought Propofol into the house. He did not monitor Michael while he was under the influence of the drug, and he left the drug alone with the patient. These careless actions led to the death of Michael, therefore, he is guilty.



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Pegasus    

Dr. Conrad Murray Requesting Dismissal Of Wrongful Death LawsuitDr. Conrad Murray Requesting Dismissal Of Wrongful Death Lawsuit
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Splashnews/WENNBy Jen Heger - Radar Legal Editor

Dr. Conrad Murray is asking a judge to throw out the wrongful death lawsuit that Michael Jackson's father, Joe filed against the King of Pop's one time physician, Radaronline.com can exclusively report.

Lawyers for Dr. Murray filed the legal docs last Friday, arguing that Joe Jackson doesn't have legal standing to even file the lawsuit -- Michael left his father, Joe out of his will and did not support him financially.

The legal docs state: "Joe Jackson further has no standing to sue pursuant to...in that he was not dependent upon the decedent for support and therefore Joe Jackson has no subject matter jurisdiction, alternatively, in personam jurisdiction to sue....Defendants request that the Plaintiff's case be dismissed, alternatively, that the Plaintiff go forth without recovery from these Defendants."

Dr. Conrad Murray’s Attorneys Request Case Dismissal — See The Do***ents

Michael Jackson died on June 25, 2009, from acute propofol intoxication. Dr. Murray's trial for involuntary manslaughter, is expected to begin in August. If convicted of the charge, Murray could be sent to state prison for up to four years.

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Pegasus    


Michael Jackson Gave Himself the Drugs That Killed Him, Claims Doctor Fighting Wrongful Death SuitToday 1:15 PM PDT by Marianne Garvey and Claudia Rosenbaum


AP Photo/Isaac Brekken; Pool Photographer/Getty Images Dr. Conrad Murray wants a judge to toss out the wrongful death lawsuit filed against him by Michael Jackson's father, Joe.

Not only does Murray claim the elder Jackson has no legal right to file against him, but more explosively the doctor is claiming the King of Pop is responsible for his own death...

MORE: Read Conrad's filing here

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Princess Diana Gets Digitally Aged In do***ents filed in court last Friday, Murray's lawyers claim that Jackson had been secretly administering his own Propofol without the doctor's knowledge and ended up killing himself. Jackson, they allege, "clandestinely self-administered or self-injested such medications" and "is comparatively responsible for his own death," assuming that the drugs killed him.

Jackson's father filed his wrongful death lawsuit against the doc last year, which claims that Murray withheld the singer's medical history from emergency room attendants after Michael was taken to the hospital and initially only admitted to administering three drugs to the "Billie Jean" singer, none of them Propofol.

Joe's lawsuit also states the omission "demonstrated a disregard for Michael Jackson's life" and accuses Murray of giving conflicting statements to police about Michael's drug use.

Conrad's filing claims Michael Jackson had been visiting other doctors who doled out meds to the singer, and that the singer did not provide Murray with his full medical history or an accurate accounting of the meds he was on.
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Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b249875_michael_jackson_gave_himself_drugs.html#ixzz1Qk7b84PM

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Pegasus    

Elizabeth Taylor's cherished possessions to be auctioned at Christie'sBy Tim Nudd, PEOPLE.comJune 29, 2011 10:51 a.m. EDT
The tour of Elizabeth Taylor's possessions will end in a 10-day exhibition in New York during December.STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Christie's will prepare a museum-quality collection of Taylor's belongings
The memorabilia will be displayed on an international tour beginning in September
A portion of proceeds will be donated to the Elizabeth Taylor AIDS Foundation
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(PEOPLE.com) -- Elizabeth Taylor fans will soon get a closer look into the private life of the late Hollywood legend, as Christie's prepares a worldwide tour and auction of some of her most prized personal possessions.

The auction house is assembling a museum-quality collection of Taylor's jewelry, fashion, accessories, decorative arts and memorabilia, and will display it on a three-month international tour beginning in September.

The tour will culminate in New York in December with a 10-day exhibition taking up Christie's entire Rockefeller Center gallery, followed by four consecutive days of auctions from December 13-16.

A portion of proceeds from the tour and auction will be donated to the Elizabeth Taylor AIDS Foundation, which the film star, fashion icon, and humanitarian founded in 1993.

The exhibition will offer "a window into the world of a true icon, a rare woman who was at once an international film and fashion star, loving mother, successful businesswoman, and generous humanitarian," said Marc Porter, chairman and president of Christie's Americas.

He added: "This collection of her many cherished possessions will bring us closer to the essence of Elizabeth Taylor's unique spirit, and promises to inspire admiration, delight, and at times, sheer wonder, in all who come to see it."

1022 days ago
259.

Cherwood    

Please, Please, Please, Please........
Why oh why are we being treated to this crap YET AGAIN? Especially when the Prosecution stated that there would be no plea bargain AGES ago.....
Murray continues to spin his wheels like a HAMSTER in a cage, but it will NEVER change the fact that he MURDERED Michael! Regardless of who else put him up to it, whatever state Michael's health was in, or what the price of tea was in China, HE'S GUILTY:
-he's the one who admitted to giving Michael the stack of Benzos, and then the Propofol
-he's the one who purchased a crapload of Propofol based on the receipts and the testimony of the Pharmacist who Fed-X'ed the drug to Murray's Babymama's house in Santa Monica at his request
-he's the one who failed to call 911 for almost an HOUR after he discovered Michael wasn't breathing, but called everyone else--including his No. 3 HOOTCHIE
-he's the one who LIED to EMT's and UCLA staff about what he had given Michael, then proceeded to hold up the ambulance for 8 minutes so he could get something he forgot in the room where Michael was killed
-he's the one who fled from the UCLA ER and disappeared for 2 DAYS, only to resurface with a PR TEAM and LAWYERS
And the above is just a TIP of the iceberg when it comes to incriminating evidence against Murray. Noone's doubting that there were others involved who probably FINANCED and MASTERMINDED the whole thing, but this moment is not about them, it's about the one who actually pulled the Trigger--MURRAY!!
And he can rant about Michael self-injecting all he wants but he'll never PROVE it because it's NOT TRUE! Notice that he never mentioned anything about self-injecting until Flanagan came on the scene--the so-called "Propofol Defense Expert". Murray and his camp dug until they came up with something they could use to implicate Michael in his own death--and they KNEW it would work because the Public will believe ANYTHING they read about Michael when it comes to drugs and the allegations.
Funny how they failed to read the CORONER'S REPORT that stated Michael had NO SIGNS OF DRUG ABUSE, and the only meds found in him were the ones Murray gave him that night....but I forgot, that would be POSITIVE NEWS.....GOD FORBID they read anything positive about Michael.......
I just find it VERY INTERESTING that after Murray got charged, he SUDDENLY thought of the fact that he didn't know Michael's Medical History, after he CLAIMS he was "weaning" him off Propofol because he thought Michael was addicted to it; and he SUDDENLY figured that Michael had self-injected the Propofol even though anyone who's had the stuff KNOWS it puts you under in a manner of SECONDS....
And people say the FAN/SUPPORTERS consider him to be SUPERHUMAN......
Meanwhile back at the ranch, Murray has come up with yet ANOTHER ploy in his defense against Joe's wrongful death suit--he now claims Michael had been self-injecting the Propofol all along. This guy's gotta be the biggest JOKE of all time to think that anyone with any SENSE would believe that. Doesn't this IDIOT realize this makes it look worse for HIM? If that was true that Michael was taking the stuff all along, a RESPONSIBLE DOCTOR would've recognized that something was amiss....he would've had the proper Medical equipment, kept CHARTS, do***ented Michael's health, and kept tabs on the Propofol supply in the house. Supposedly, he treated Michael for 6 wks. before he died and he wants us to believe that Michael was taking the Propofol without his knowing it? Oye.
As I've stated before, the whole Propofol story is a LIE concocted by Murray and his partners in crime to cover up what really happened. There's NO PROOF that Michael ever asked nor begged for Propofol....nor that he ever even had it given to him that year prior to when Murray gave him the fatal dosage on June 25. I still CHALLENGE anyone to REFUTE my theory....good luck with that.....

BTW: To the READING IMPAIRED--this is YET another story that has NOTHING to do with the ALLEGATIONS!! Some of you need to quit spinning your HAMSTER wheel and get HOOKED ON PHONICS!! There's a SYLVAN LEARNING CENTER in most towns....even that PODUNK one you call home.....
-Kaveman, your name speaks VOLUMES!! And so you know, noone ever said that all Blacks were in Michael's corner. Of course, there's ones like you who are TOO INSECURE to support and be happy for the GIFTS of another in their race.....TYPICAL.....
You're just PROOF that every race has it's MISSTEPS........
................SIMMERING........................

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mymjj5.    

As I've stated before, the whole Propofol story is a LIE concocted by Murray and his partners in crime to cover up what really happened. There's NO PROOF that Michael ever asked nor begged for Propofol....nor that he ever even had it given to him that year prior to when Murray gave him the fatal dosage on June 25. I still CHALLENGE anyone to REFUTE my theory....good luck with that.....
BTW: To the READING IMPAIRED--this is YET another story that has NOTHING to do with the ALLEGATIONS
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Great POST Cherwood!!!!!!

BTW: Informative, truthful and HiLaRioUs!!!!

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261.

CJ    

‘MICHAEL GAVE ME DRUGS’

Date posted: June-23-2011 17:30 Comments: 0
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Opening up for the first time about his controversial relationship with Michael Jackson, fellow child star Aaron Carter shares some shocking truths with OK!

On the second anniversary of Michael Jackson’s death, his former friend and confidant, Aaron Carter, 23, has come clean about his close – and controversial – relationship with the pop singer, revealing all to internationally renowned interviewer Daphne Barak during a charity visit to Marbella, Spain.

Exposing their most intimate moments together, Aaron tells OK! how MJ gave him drugs and alcohol when he was just 15.

‘I never talked about it… This is the first time. I do… I miss Michael… I have spent such incredible times with him. I did things with him that nobody else did… But I was also troubled about what he did to me,’ Aaron says.

When asked whether Michael gave him alcohol, Aaron tells Daphne, ‘Yes, he gave me wine. I mean, I could have refused, but I was 15.’ As for drugs? ‘He gave me cocaine. I felt weird about that and other stuff… We spoke afterwards, hours and hours, on the phone. I admired Michael, but his behaviour bothered me a lot. Then my mother called the police…’

http://www.okmagazine.com.au/insider/michael-gave-me-drugs.htm

1022 days ago
262.

LC4Michael    

Aaron Carter? Who is Aaron Carter? Oh yeah, the teeny bop has-been who seems to need a career boost and what better way than to dis your so-called friend Michael Jackson. Class act here!

The funny and yet so sad thing about this is that he was on Howard Stern denying; and very adamantly I might add; on how Michael never gave him wine, drugs or a car, never touched him in any way and was a great friend.

Great way to get your 15 mins. back again Aaron! With friends like you, who the heck needs enemies! Jeeze:(

1022 days ago
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gayforliztaylor    

mjj michelle jackson planned on befriending 12 year old murderers
in a juvenile detention center, then he suffered embarrassment after he lost fans and album sales.
naturally, for a hopeless drug abuser who had no ability to discern facts from lies, he accused mottola and the police of vicious abuse and racism in 2003.
mj begged for forgiveness from mottola, but he was too cowardly to publicly mention that and his lies about his nose butchering in the hospitals, his drug activity, boy obsession and the police that he accused of torturing him.
he believed he and mj kids would live happily if everyone had forgotten about his criminal buddies and the Arvizos.
lol after all, he visited his tax thief friend avram in jail and married lisa m., a woman who used to be a teen lover of a pedophile man.

1022 days ago
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gayforliztaylor    

ivillage.com/aaron-carter-michael-jackson-gave-me-drugs-when-i-was-15/1-a-361832

mj admitted he stayed indoors because of his face.
the disturbing freak hid away from the world because his face deteriorated.

1022 days ago
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mymjj5.    

Michael never hid from the world about anything......good grief!

1021 days ago
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mymjj5.    

mj begged for forgiveness from mottola, but he was too cowardly to publicly mention that and his lies about his nose butchering in the hospitals, his drug activity, boy obsession and the police that he accused of torturing him.
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rofl! your run-on sentence is almost as ridiculous as you are............

1021 days ago
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Robyn Hope    

@ Kaveman

Only rabid fans worship MJ or any celeb.
I'm a huge fan of his massive talents, but certainly agree that Michael made some really stupid decisions that hurt his career.

Even if you choose to believe he was a child-molester, MJ was the greatest, most successful, most accomplished performing artist that ever moonwalked the earth.

1021 days ago
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Cherwood    

Please, Please, Please, Please - Pt. 2......
-CJ, and you posted this REGURGITATED CRAP because??? As someone posted already, this is yet another comment on the DEPTHS many of his so-called "friends" will stoop to in order to CASH IN on his name....
And do you REALLY think we'd take this Aaron crap seriously when he was one of the guys who SWORE nothing ever happened with Michael? The CRUX of the matter lies in this excerpt of your post:
"Aaron Carter, 23, has come clean about his close – and controversial – relationship with the pop singer, revealing all to internationally renowned interviewer Daphne Barak during a charity visit to Marbella, Spain."
DAPHNE BARAK? Really? Her connection with this story ALONE speaks VOLUMES....I can smell the BS all the way from here....
Wonder how much Murray's PR TEAM paid to have THAT ONE put out there.....
-Hey Mymjj5! Thanks for the kind words. It just gets to be such a PAIN to have to repeating the same thing over and over. Some of the posters on these boards' thought process couldn't even rival that o*****NAT!!!
And get GayforIDIOT at it again, paying homage to TABLOID GOSSIP as usual. Notice how he didn't back up his LIES about Michael "begging" MOttola for forgiveness because he KNOWS there is NO DO***ENTED PROOF of that....try, try again....
But the comic figure in all of this is Robyn Hope-less....where she MATERIALIZE from?? Lord help....
-Robyn, we all make "stupid" decisions in life. WHat makes you think Michael would be any different when he was just as HUMAN as you or I. And for the record, there's a whole lot written about Michael that is STEEPED in GOSSIP and HEARSAY....and now we know why that crap continues even now that he's gone because they know they'll always have GULLIBLE people like you who'll believe it.....
Bottom line, let me just CLUE you in on something: If YOU believe Michael did anything to hurt those children, you ARE NO FAN!!! Don't delude yourself, you and Kaveman are cut from the SAME CLOTH......
Cher
MJJ Justice League 2009--WE ARE HERE TO CHANGE THE WORLD!!!
No Peace till Justice!
MICHAEL--IL.O.V.E.U4EVER and MISS-U-SO-MUCH!!

1021 days ago
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Cherwood    

Regarding the Aaron Carter BS, check this out:
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/60...677956.html#ixzz1Qo111wOh
Cher
MJJ Justice League 2009--WE ARE HERE TO CHANGE THE WORLD!!!
No Peace till Justice!
MICHAEL--IL.O.V.E.U4EVER and MISS-U-SO-MUCH!!

1021 days ago
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mymjj5.    

Worship: an act of religious devotion usually directed to one or more sacred deities.

Only the ignorant haters think the fans worship michael. that's ridiculous!!!!

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