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Dr. Conrad Murray

The FULL Police Interview

10/7/2011 3:51 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

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Here's the full transcript of Dr. Conrad Murray's two-hour police interview on June 27, 2009 -- two days after Michael Jackson died.

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Professor Chaos    

You know.. after seeing all the drugs he was on the other day, I wonder if MJ being a MAJOR MAJOR drug addict played any role in his pedophilia or if he was just naturally attracted to young boys. Makes ya wonder, right?

1007 days ago
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sky    

Harvey no one cares about this, we wanna see pics of ArNOOLLd in Austria at the dedication of his hoouse as a museum , i hear his shorts are soooo tight you can see his circ*mscizzion.

just sayin'

1007 days ago
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lanie    

He could have went to the bathroom while on the phone -don't act like you've never done that! geesh.

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Rob    

Professor Chaos... it was not funny the first ten times you said it. Do you think the 11th time will be the one that gets the laughs.

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kathy3    

It amazes me that in the police interview, Murray can't even spell Lorazepam or pronounce Vitiligo properly. Since when did Crackerjacks start issuing medical licences?

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Pegasus    

Conrad Murray Trial Recap: Michael Jackson's Daughter Paris, ‘I Don’t Want To Be An Orphan’Conrad Murray Trial Recap: Michael Jackson's Daughter Paris, ‘I Don’t Want To Be An Orphan’
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Deputy District Attorney David Walgren played the audiotaped interview that Dr. Conrad Murray did with the LAPD just two days after Michael Jackson died, in court Friday, and the interview had the jurors’ full attention, RadarOnline.com is reporting.

It was a brilliant and strategic move by Walgren because Monday is a court holiday, and jurors will certainly have plenty of time to think about Murray admitting to cops that he gave Michael Jackson Propofol.

In Murray’s interview, he told cops Jackson asked him for “some milk,” his codeword for Propofol, and he admitted that he administered it to the King of Pop.

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Dr. Murray: [Michael Jackson] said, "I'd like some milk,"
Detective Martinez: Milk?
Detective Smith: About what time was this?
Dr. Murray: This he said, "please, please give me some milk so that I can sleep, because I know that this is all that really works for me"
Detective Smith: Hot milk or warm or just--
Dr. Murray: It's just some medicine--
Detective Smith: What--
Dr. Murray: --that he was familiar with
Detective Martinez: What is the medicine?
Dr. Murray: It's called Propofol

Dr. Murray also told the cops he only left Jackson's bedside for two-three minutes to go to the bathroom after 10:40 a.m., but cell phone records indicate that the doctor was on the phone with a number of his girlfriends in the minutes leading up to Michael Jackson's death.

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Murray went on to explain how he broke the news of Jackson’s death to the singer’s mother, Katherine Jackson, upon her arrival at the UCLA Ronald Reagan Medical Center.

Dr. Murray: So we -- they brought her into a room down the hall. And I went in there with the emergency room physician who was treating him, whom I was with all the time through his code, and they broke the news to Mrs. Jackson. So the doctor started to tell that, you know her son came in and he was having difficulty breathing and they tried everything. And she said, "well how is he? He's not dead is he?" and the doctor said "yes," and she broke down. It was very -- and weeping. We stayed there, held her hand."

Dr. Murray then talked about how he went to another room where Jackson's three children were, and told them their father had died.

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Dr. Murray: They asked questions, and the children found out that daddy wasn't doing well, that he had passed away. And then they were weeping, really weeping...after they cried and cried and then his daughter uttered a lot of words of unhappiness, and you know she will live alone without her dad and she didn't want to be an orphan...She cried and was very stark. And then she asked to see him. And then that was another thing. How do you let children see him? I asked them to prepare Mr. Jackson's body, make it as presentable as possible, because I recommended an autopsy be performed, so that the children would be able to view their daddy and have them say good-bye to him at this time."

Court will be in recess until next Tuesday.

You can watch the trial live as it unfolds, right here on RadarOnline.com.

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Pegasus    

Conrad Murray trial week 2. MICHAEL JACKSON’S LAST MESSAGE TO US
October 3, 2011
tags: Dr. Richelle Cooper, Dr. Thao Nguyen, Elissa Fleak, Hamid Towfigh, Martin Blount, Michael Jackson's tapeby vindicatemj
.Here is Michael Jackson’s dying message to the world
The fact that the message was taken on May 10, 2009 when Conrad Murray was routinely giving him propofol or something else to sleep – and was recording him at that – does not change anything.

Michael was falling asleep and that is why his voice sounds like he is passing away from us.

At moments like that people are unable to lie. They tell the truth only and speak of things which are most essential to them.

And in his dying hour Michael Jackson was speaking of the pain he was feeling for the world – for you, me, all of us – and our children who should be able to change it all.

His last thoughts were not about making millions, they were about giving them away for the biggest in the world hospital for children – which would have a game room and a movie theatre so that children don’t feel sick and depressed there.

He knew that joy for the children is their best remedy.

Before stepping into eternity he was still thinking of children’s well-being as his biggest dream. He understood them so well.

He was pure as a child. And he was talking about God.

I AM GONNA DO THAT FOR THEM!
Though I am asleep…

* * * * *

Half a day has passed since the ****tering tape was played in the courtroom and its full text was uncovered to the world, but it is still not receiving even a fraction of the attention it deserves.

The media quotes only tiny pieces of the text accompanied by a heavily slanted comment or prefers to silence it altogether. No more gleeful CNN repetition of the tape every 5 minutes, no more Piers Morgan savoring his primitive and distasteful story four times a day, no more happy pundits popping up on the screen every half an hour to dirty Michael – no, everything is extremely modest, cold and meaning to imply that “it is is no longer the news”.

What is news to them is Steve Jobs’s death which serves as a pretext for forgetting about Michael Jackson’s tape. But this way they are showing us that their desire to bury Michael is so big that they are even ready to give up the golden opportunity of reporting an absolutely smashing link between these two pieces of news – I mean the iphone which was invented by Steve Jobs and the fact that it was exactly an iphone which allowed to extract Michael’s priceless recording and Murray’s correspondence with insurers and AEG on the day of Michael’s death.

The recording was retrieved at the end of July as a complete miracle – it was almost three months after the event (as it was recorded on May 10 but analyzed at the end of July) and restoring its data became possible only due to iphone’s unique possibilities of a small computer. One would think that Michael’s recording would be a perfect way to show Steve Jobs’s legacy at its best, but the media thinks different – they totally ignore this point though it is the most logical thing to speak of under the cir****tances!

When Jane Velez-Mitchell couldn’t resist expressing her natural emotion upon hearing Michael’s tape and saying what she really thought about it ( that “maybe MJ fans were right all along and this man could never hurt a child and he was never a p-le”), she was immediately restrained by Stacy Brown who tweeted her that “she didn’t do their profession a service” – which literally means that telling the truth about Michael Jackson is doing a disservice to the media.

In other words they are now openly telling us that the only right thing for the media to do about Michael Jackson is to cover him with dirt, while everything else will be a “disservice” to their profession. This is no news to Michael’s supporters and it is only the openness with which it is being revealed now to the general public which is so surprising.

At least no one will be able to say now that the media has no agenda against Michael – the agenda has become so obvious that it is simply impossible not to notice it.

Michael’s tape is the biggest possible news ever. He is talking to us from behind the grave and is expressing his innermost thoughts which are revealed to us at a moment when people cannot lie in principle. The media twists and cuts it, misinterprets and gives all sorts of crazy explanations to it, speculates or squeezes out only drops of information from it – in short they are doing everything which is in their power, except the simplest and easiest thing to do which is providing the full text of it.

The reason for that is because Michael’s tape is so eye-opening an experience that it is capable to ****ter within seconds the wall of lies mounted around Michael Jackson by generations of the tabloid media.

Here is the full text of it:

MJ: Elvis didn’t do it. Beatles didn’t do it. We have to be phenomenal. When people leave the show, when people leave the show, I want them to say, “I’ve never seen nothing like this in my life. Go. Go. I’ve never seen nothing like this. Go. It’s amazing. He’s the greatest entertainer in the world”. I’m taking that money, a million children, children’s hospital, the biggest in the world, Michael Jackson’s Children’s Hospital. Gonna have a movie theatre, game room. Children are depressed. The – in those hospital, no game room, no movie theatre. They’re sick because they’re depressed. Their mind is depressing them. I want to give them that. I care about them, them angels. God wants me to do it. God wants me to do it. I’m gonna do it, Conrad.

CM: I know you would.

MJ: Don’t have enough hope, no more hope. That’s the next generation that’s gonna save our planet, starting with – we’ll talk about it. United States, Europe, Prague, my babies. They walk around with no mother. They drop them off, they leave – a psychological degradation of that. They reach out to me – please take me with you.

CM: Mmnh-mmnh.

MJ: I want to do that for them.

CM: Mmnh-Mmnh.

MJ: I’m gonna do that for them. They will be remembered more than my performances. My performances will be up there helping my children and always be my dream. I love them. I love them because I didn’t have a childhood. I had no childhood. I feel their pain. I feel their hurt. I can deal with it. Heal the World, We are the World, Will You Be There, The Lost Children. These are the songs I’ve written because I hurt, you know, I hurt.

(13 seconds: silence)

CM: You okay?

(8 seconds: silence)

MJ: I am asleep.

Despite the fact that Michael’s message came to us in fragments it is still so deep and powerful that I don’t even venture to give my interpretation of it as any comment will fall short of the original.

All I can say is that those who were still in doubt as to his innocence can now safely come down on his side of the fence as under a deep sedation like that it is impossible to pretend or lie. Michael’s words were coming from the very deep of his subconscious mind and therefore expressed the very essence of his soul.

And Michael was talking about the world in general and not of his children only – he was talking about millions of children who will probably be able to save us from the state of total degradation we currently find ourselves in.

The world terribly let Michael down and he had no more hope in it, except the children and the next generation of people. He placed his last hopes in the hands of a doctor whom he evidently trusted as he shared his thoughts with him in the final moments of his conscious life. And this is what this doctor did to him.

Are we indeed hopeless?

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LadyD    

Prayers for the Jackson family and Michael's children. May the love they share keep them strong and united. Much love for the family.

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sanesally    

mj was probably dead long before all the phoney frantic phone calls.the first two witnesses cleary stated, that they felt MJ was already dead, when the entered the bedroom. The body gaurd stated that MJ was blue around the mouth and Paramedics said he was cold to touch. The Good DR. knew this to because he hesitated to give him CPR. Anyone who works in the health profession or works with the dead like funeral services knows the dead people start to pick up deadly forming bacteria as little as an hour after death. CPR requires you to breathe in Oxygen into a person who is unconsience or close to death to place your mouth on a individual who is already dead could be fatal to anyone. That is why you check for a pulse. this man was even so cowardly to ask someone else to put their life in jepordy when it was him who had commited the offense. His frantic nature was all a smoke screen. To me it looks like he made no attempt to save MJ. Latoya said it best how come he was such a good doctor to so many other patients but not to my brother.Why did he not save my brother? answer- They lack his whealth and they not burdon by parasites and leaches tring to strip them from their fortunes.

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Ara Krejci    

“God gave me a gift & I have to use it responsibly by giving back. I’ll do it until I have pennies left or God calls me home.”

- Michael Jackson

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Pegasus    

Michael Jackson called hiring me 'divine guidance,' Murray saysBy Alan Duke, CNN
updated 8:48 PM EST, Fri October 7, 2011

Toxicologist disapproves of questioningSTORY HIGHLIGHTS
"I've got to sleep Dr. Conrad," Murray says Jackson told him the morning he died
'I'd like to have some milk, please, please give me some," Jackson begged, Murray says
Jackson's nickname for the surgical anesthetic propofol was "milk," Murray says
Jurors will hear the second half of Murray's interview with police next week
Tune in to HLN for full coverage and analysis of the Conrad Murray trial and watch live, as it happens, on CNN.com/live and CNN's mobile apps.

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Michael Jackson begged for his "milk," his nickname for propofol, after a sleepless night and just hours before he died from what the coroner said was an overdose of the surgical anesthetic, the singer's doctor Conrad Murray told detectives.

"I've got to sleep, Dr. Conrad," Murray said Jackson pleaded to him. "I have these rehearsals to perform. I must be ready for the show in England. Tomorrow, I will have to cancel my performance, because you know I cannot function if I don't get to sleep."

Jurors in Murray's involuntary manslaughter trial heard about half of the two-hour police interview on Friday, before going home for a three-day weekend.

Los Angeles Police Det. Scott Smith, one of two investigators who questioned Murray, is heard telling Murray at the start that he would make the interview "as painless and as quick as possible."

The audio recording, however, was too much for Michael Jackson's oldest sister, Rebbie. After she whispered to a bailiff, she walked into the jury box, next to the alternate jurors, and through the middle of the courtroom to the exit.

Police interview with Murray played

Murray: Jackson asked for 'milk'

Murray on CPR efforts, antidotes, death Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor stopped the audio playback and appeared angry at the disruption. "I can't have people walking through the courtroom!" Pastor said.

Murray is not expected to testify during the trial, but the interview playback means that jurors will have heard his story -- at least as he told it two days after Jackson's death.

"This is divine guidance," Murray said Jackson told him when he asked him to work as his personal doctor.

"He wanted me to be around forever. And he wanted to open a children's hospital where children all over the world can get treatment, and he wanted me to be the medical director," Murray told the detectives about his relationship with the pop star. Earlier this week, jurors heard a recording in which Jackson -- using slow and slurred speech -- talked to Murray about his dream of having a children's hospital.

The prosecution is playing the interview between Murray and the detective to help prove their case that the doctor should be held criminally responsible for reckless medical treatment that they say significantly contributed to Jackson's death.

Still, it does benefit the defense in some ways. The jury hears Murray's reasons for not immediately calling 911 for help, his explanation of his much-criticized CPR techniques, and the story that he was trying to wean Jackson off of a dependency on propofol. At the same time, the defendant is not subjected to a cross-examination by prosecutors.

Murray said that when he agreed to be Jackson's personal physician for his "This Is It" shows in London, he had no idea he would have to give him regular infusions of propofol.

But it was a drug Jackson told him he had used for years to get elusive sleep, he said.

"I was a bit surprised of his pharmacological knowledge," Murray told police. "He explained that he used it frequently on his tours."

During his two months on the job, he gave Jackson propofol "30 days a month, every day, with the exception of three days leading up to his death," Murray said.

"Michael Jackson may have a had a dependency to the substance," Murray said. "I was trying to wean him off."

The morning of the day Jackson died was after a third night of trying to wean Jackson from the drug, he said.

Murray described a long, restless night and morning for the pop icon, that began with the use of a series of sedatives -- lorazepam and midazolam -- without effect, Murray said.

Jackson found brief sleep early that day using meditation, but at 10 a.m. -- after eight hours of frustrated efforts -- Jackson begged for propofol, Murray said.

"He said, 'I'd like to have some milk, please, please give me some."

By 10:40 a.m., Murray said he gave in.

"So, I agreed at that time that I would switch over to the propofol, and I would give small amounts that would help him to sleep," Murray told detectives.

"I loved Mr. Jackson," the doctor added. "He was my friend, and he opened up to me, and I wanted to help him as much as I can."

On the recording, Murray insisted he kept a close watch on Jackson after he finally fell asleep. The physician never mentioned the long list of e-mails and calls that cell phone records later revealed.

The doctor said he left the room for about two minutes to visit the toilet. When he returned, he realized his patient had stopped breathing, Murray said.

"Immediately, I felt for a pulse and I was able to get a pulse in the femoral region," he said. "His body was warm. There was no change in color, so I assumed that everything happened quickly."

Murray told police he immediately started one-handed CPR on the bed alternately with mouth-to-mouth resuscitation on Jackson.

"I couldn't lift him off the bed by myself," Murray said. "What I did was to improvise. His bed is fairly firm, so I got my left hand under his body and I compressed with my hand not moving in place."

Jackson security chief Alberto Alvarez, the first person to join Murray in the effort, testified that he questioned Murray's knowledge of CPR techniques because he was trained to put a patient on a hard surface and use two hands.

Murray said he did not call 911 for help immediately because he expected answering the emergency operator's questions would take too much time away from the resuscitation efforts.

Instead, he ran down the stairs and shouted for the chef to summon help, and he placed a call to Jackson's personal assistant, Michael Amir Williams, to ask that he send a security guard upstairs, Murray said.

Murray said he tried his best to revive Jackson.

The second half of Murray's interview will be played in court Tuesday morning, when jurors return after the Columbus Day holiday.

Defense confronts Coroner about testimony

Detective witnessed Jackson autopsy

CSI evidence in Jackson death trial

Defense questions coroner's methods Earlier Friday, Murray's lawyers questioned the coroner's toxicologist in their effort to convince jurors that the sedative lorazepam, not the surgical anesthetic propofol, was the drug most responsible for Michael Jackson's death.

Toxicologist Dan Anderson testified Friday morning that while all blood and urine samples collected in Jackson's autopsy were tested for propofol, the coroner's office did not test all of them for lorazepam levels.

"I think it has its importance but it was not the red flag that caught my eye," Anderson said Friday. "Propofol in any case that we handle is important, probably more important than any other drugs that we deal with."

The Los Angeles County coroner concluded Jackson's June 25, 2009, death was caused by "acute propofol intoxication" in combination with sedatives, including lorazepam.

Lawyers for Murray contend Jackson swallowed eight lorazepam pills and self-administered a dosage of propofol while Murray was no*****ching. The result, they contend, was near instant death for the pop icon.

Prosecutors contend the high level of propofol found in Jackson's blood was the result of Murray's reckless use of a makeshift IV system with no monitoring equipment to put Jackson to sleep with the drug.

Jurors Thursday and Friday heard about the drugs found in Jackson's blood. The scientific evidence, presented by a coroner's toxicologist, is tedious and often hard to follow, but is the cornerstone of the prosecution's case.

Jurors who will decide if Murray is criminally responsible for Jackson's fatal overdose appeared to pay close attention as they took notes while Anderson detailed the lab results from Jackson's autopsy Thursday. Anderson returned to the witness stand the next morning for more defense cross-examination.

A higher level of lorazepam was measured in Jackson's stomach contents than in the blood from his heart and leg, defense lawyer Michael Flanagan noted as he questioned Anderson.

"The concentration is about four times as concentrated in the stomach as it is in the blood. You think that's an important number?" Flanagan asked.

"Not really," Anderson said. "It doesn't necessarily mean it's oral administration."

Along with propofol, Lidocaine and lorazepam, tests of blood taken from Jackson's heart and leg also tested positive for Midazolam and Diazepam, drugs commonly used to alleviate anxiety or induce sleep.

Jackson did not have Demerol in his blood, which is significant because of the defense contention that Dr. Arnold Klein addicted Jackson to the painkiller in frequent visits to his Beverly Hills dermatology clinic in the weeks before his death, without Murray knowing.

Defense lawyer Ed Chernoff said in his opening statement that Jackson was unable to sleep because he was going through withdrawal from Demerol since he had not visited Klein for several days.

Murray's fingerprint was found on the 100-milliliter propofol bottle that coroner's investigator Elissa Fleak testified Thursday she found inside a saline bag that had been sliced open. The prosecutor contends it was that bottle that contained the drug that killed Jackson.

Prosecutors argue that Murray, who was Jackson's personal doctor as he prepared for planned comeback concerts, is criminally responsible for the singer's death because of medical negligence and his reckless use of the propofol to help Jackson sleep.

If convicted of involuntary manslaughter, Murray could spend four years in a California prison and lose his medical license.

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justagirl    

Here are my thoughts after reading this and hearing 1/2 of it on TMZ on Friday:

#1 Did Dr. Murray really "relent" when he agreed to give MJ more propofol the morning he died? I mean, he consistently gave it to him for 30 plus days so how is he "relenting" if he only skipped 2 days to ween? Dr. Murray admits that MJ obviously had a psychological or physiological dependency on propofol but still gave it to him anyway. Dr. Murray claims that MJ told him he would cxl his show if he didn't get his "milk" and it would be Dr. Murray's fault if the tour were cxlled so he was pressured and "relented" to do something he was consistently doing anyway?! Bah!

#2 Time lapse between finding MJ not breathing and calling 911. Hello. Call 911 don't call for security what is the point? If you don't want to stop doing CPR/air flow/chest compressions then don't go running downstairs for the cook and security and the children! You have a cell phone if no phones are working in the house who cares---use your cell? Were you too busy trying to use the antidote flumszenil (page 69 of this transcript) to cover up the other drugs you administered and burn time doing chest compressions and CPR to move the antidote thru the blood stream as a cover-up?! How could you not know the exact address of the patient you are protecting? Shouldn't you have these small details worked out in case of emergency?! Why would you not use all of your human strength to move a tiny man off the bed and onto the floor for a hard surface to do normal CPR on? That small detail just kills me. It's because he was already DEAD and the doctor was just trying to pump his blood around so the antidote could work and the propofol would dissipate.

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justagirl    

The other thing. Why on earth would Dr. Murray leave the room and go to the bathroom and not monitor MJ while he is under propofol? That is wreckless! Even in hospitals where they have proper monitoring devices you never see doctors leave patients while they are under anesthesia so they can go to the restroom and make calls! I like Scott's previous comment about how the court should give Dr. Murray some propofol in his calf and then everybody leave the courtroom for 10 minutes HA! Good one LOL!

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Dose Of Reality    

Once again, I'm not defending Murray or his actions but he was paid to be there and do a job. Either MJ was completely incompetent of he knew what was going on for at least 2 months.

I don't mean to be critical of some people here, actually I do, but there are many flaws in the opinions on Murray's resuscitation attempts.


CPR should be done on a hard surface such as the floor. Was Murray supposed to just throw MJ on the floor when he was by himself. Especially considering he had a IV going into the inside of his thigh.


It's difficult enough for 1 person to properly preform CPR, especially for an extended time, but he should have called 911 at the same time? Consider the fact that this was criticized in the time before Murray knew something was wrong. I think Murray was on the phone because he was bored and didn't want to fall asleep.


Let's pretend for a moment that MJ was normal, healthy, and not on major medication. Given his fame, and the fact that if you're famous, some wacko may try to harm you and your family because of it:


Why didn't he have some sort of panic button to summon security immediately?


Why no working phones with intercoms to get security, staff, etc. with buttons for 911 and police?


If someone of his means did have health concerns, why wasn't there a defibrillator in the house? They are pretty common in many public places these days. Even though it wouldn't have helped. After all oxygen was present.


If I had his money, I would have the people hiring the staff that was close to me take classes or be certified to perform CPR and the Heimlich maneuver and be trained on security and emergency response, with periodic refresher courses. To you that may seem extreme but consider who and how much money is involved. These things are often required of people working at many companies. If I was hiring a nanny for my kids, I'd ask most of that of them and many services require it.


There were many points of failure and negligence and someone should have stood up and said something about MJ's health long before it came to this.

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