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Shia LaBeouf

Allegedly Threatened

to Pull Knife after Brawl

10/20/2011 1:00 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

shia labeouf vancouverThe man who tried to calm down Shia LaBeouf moments after the beatdown in Vancouver last week tells TMZ ... the actor threatened to pull a knife on him in the wake of the fight ... but he never actually flashed a blade.

TMZ spoke with Shea Carter ... the man who restrained Shia after the fight ... who tells us he noticed the actor inside the Cinema Public House bar BEFORE the melee. Carter says LaBeouf had been drunkenly swaying into several patrons ... including one man who calmly warned Shia, "Hey man, watch out."

Carter says Shia replied, "Oh yea? Or what? What are you going to do about it?"  That's when the two decided to take things outside ... and the guy beat Shia down to the ground.

Afterward, Carter -- a local hip hop artist and  bar regular -- tried to stop Shia from getting back inside, but LaBeouf got aggressive, spouting, "Well what if I grabbed my knife on you?"

Carter says he quickly grabbed Shia in an effort to protect himself in case the knife threat was serious.

Carter says the actor eventually walked away ... so he went back inside the bar. But moments later, Carter says, Shia appeared outside a window and made a throat-slashing gesture at him ... before leaving for the night.

TMZ placed multiple calls to Shia's rep for comment -- no word back.


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What a little boy and a wimp. Acts tough, gets beat up, then threatens a guy trying to help him out, then, while outside - a safe distance-makes a gesture. LaDouche is lucky he didn't get beat up a second time. He isn't that good of an actor, a loud mouth, and certainly replaceable. He is a tiny boy, a tool, and has a complex.

1097 days ago


i guess the little snot nosed brat started believing his own cgi.

1097 days ago


It is pretty clear he is, or is turning into, an alcoholic. Hope he gets some help before he ruins his career.

1097 days ago


I worked on a Shia production a few years ago, and while I never saw him drunk or drink, even sober he was an absolute a-hole.

1097 days ago


What do you expect... he's from Echo Park.

1097 days ago


This Shea guy is all about the drama and has no common sense. You can see him chase after Shia like he's some sort of super hero. Pinning a drunk up agaisnt a wall is never a good idea, and aggressively yelling in a drunk persons face is usually a poor plan too. Shea seems like more of an idiot than Shai to me! He should've let Shia walk away and get on with his crappy night!

1097 days ago


Sorry Transformers 3 was such a nihilistic POS Le Beef.

1097 days ago


Where are the people in Shia's life who care about him? Why aren't they insisting on getting this young man help? We don't need to hear cover up stories about his bad behavior. Too bad we don't hear that they are removing him from the role & getting him treatment. Better he quit acting than to hear that we lost another 25 yr old actor like Heath Ledger.
As far as his behavior, it's the behavior of a drunken man. When you're drunk, you can't think properly & it sometimes ends up in tragedy. This was a public humiliation of very talented actor who now does not appear in the same stance that he did before all these drunken episodes. Between the MM business, this pummelling he took, now the threat he made and hearing rumors of his grandeur ...well, he's not doing himself or his career any favors.
He needs a complete physical to rule out or find root causes of his behavior first. He needs a bodyguard because his mouth has set him up to be a target in any bar he goes too. He needs a psycologist 24/7 around him. He needs no contact with anyone who vaguely has an agenda that would use him in any way. After about 6 to 12 months counseling, maybe he can sort out the things that are causing this drinking, fighting & irresponsible behavior.
Shia is more important than his career. I'd rather hear that he is sober, content & peaceful than he make another movie. And believe me, I was looking forward to his films. So sad.

1097 days ago


Poor Shia seems to be going down the mental health slide just like his father. Guy may need a psychatrist instead of a drink.

1097 days ago


This is so sad. I truly think he is talented, but obviously and seriously, he has a drinking problem and he needs to accept the fact that he's an alcoholic. I hope his family, friends, and reps get him the help he needs. He's lucky that this man calmed the waters of this confrontation because the result could have ended much worse, even deadly... for all involved. It sounds like he is having a difficult time in handling the industry, fame, and fortune. I hate to say it, but the way he is going is nowhere but down and gives me the impression that these are "the last days of Shia LaBeouf," because there's a tragedy just waiting to happen.

1097 days ago


this type of **** happens all the time, fights, drunk empty threats, it has nothing to do with being a "jew" or a "celebrity" you act like youve never seen a bar or party brawl before. why are people offended by this at all? i dont get it?

1097 days ago


who has the right to speak on the dude or his family at all. you act like he pulled a mel gibson, its not that serious. honestly the other guy seemed more dramatic then shia, they were all obviously drunk. i doubt he would try to stab someone with a knife, honestly guys. famous people get drunk and act fools just like we do, lets not be naive 8 year olds and act shocked and offended by this...

1097 days ago


Dude, stay out of bars.

These flies have nothing to lose -

Will bring you down with them.

-You're a marked man, dude, keep far/far away from them.

...They'd like nothing better than to ugly you up -

Screw up your career.

1097 days ago


As soon as someone threatens to stab me, they get my fist shoving their nose into their brain! I will protect myself from anyone trying to cause physical harm to me or my family, remember that La Douche. I am not the only one that thinks this way!

1097 days ago


The last thing you want after getting your ass kicked AGAIN
is some doof "hip hop artist" talkin to you like a child

"you gotta lay low", you aint friends buddy leave the kid the **** alone

1097 days ago
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