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Dr. Conrad Murray

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1/27/2012 3:47 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF

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Dr. Conrad Murray has just filed legal docs asking a judge to release him from jail pending appeal.

Murray claims in his legal docs he has a legitimate basis to appeal his manslaughter conviction.  Among the grounds for appeal -- "improper exclusion of defense evidence and witnesses that resulted in violating the defendant's State and constitutional rights to due process, to present a defense and to the effective assistance of counsel."

Murray's lawyer also says, "He has exhausted virtually all of his available resources."

Murray is asking to be released on no bail pending the appeal.

If released, Murray says he plans to live with his baby mama Nicole Alvarez -- and would be willing to wear an electronic monitoring bracelet.

Murray says he would also seek employment to support his children -- though it's unclear what work that would entail ... considering his medical license has been unceremoniously revoked.

To illustrate his dire circumstances behind bars, Murray's lawyer says the ex-doctor is housed under "maximum security" conditions -- isolated in a solitary cell, and escorted around the jail facility with his hands chained to his waist.

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286.

MiMi    

The Jackson 5 Era

The Jackson 5 Era, 1963-1975, would see young Michael burst onto the music scene with his brothers, The Jackson 5. Michael would also cut his first solo record at the tender age of 13 and establish himself as an accomplished and polished performer. These years were a whirlwind of performances, recording, television appearances, interviews and constant touring.


Michael Jackson’s biggest dream as a child was to become a singer. His brothers, Jackie, Tito, Jermaine and Marlon had already formed a small musical group and had been practising around the house. Young Michael wanted to join the group, but was thought to be too young. In 1963, Michael, at the age of only five, performed an amazing rendition of “Climb Every Mountain” for his class at Garnett Elementary School in Gary, Indiana. His performance moved many teachers to tears and he received a standing ovation. Immediately after his stunning performance, little Michael was invited into the Jackson brother’s group as their lead singer. A lady from their neighbourhood would suggest calling the group “The Jackson 5”.

Joseph Jackson, the boys’ father, took on the role of manager for The Jackson 5 and began to rehearse them before and after they went to school. He helped polish and mould the group by adding the latest songs to their repertoire and checking out what the top musicians were doing. Michael would also study the greats on television- such as James Brown and Jackie Wilson to learn the newest dance steps in order to add them to The Jackson 5’s routines.

The Jackson 5 won their first talent contest at Gary’s Roosevelt High School with a rendition of “My Girl”. Michael says that after that, they won every talent contest they entered in Gary. Joseph started to invest more money in the group by buying new musical equipment for the boys- microphones, amplifiers and guitars.

The Jackson Five started gaining a reputation for being great performers in their hometown and they got their first paid gig at a nightclub called Mr Lucky’s. They also performed at other nightclubs in Gary, earning their payment when coins and notes were thrown onto the stage after each performance. The boys were joined by two neighbourhood friends- Johnny Jackson on drums and Ronny Rancifer on keyboards.

Soon, The Jackson 5 were on the Chitlin’ circuit, which took them to Chicago, where they won amateur night at the Regal Theatre three weeks in a row. Here, they opened for acts such as The Temptations, The Emotions, Jackie Wilson and the O’Jays.

In August 1967, The Jackson 5 performed at the Apollo Theatre in Harlem for their amateur night. The Apollo’s amateur night audience was known to performers as the toughest audience around. Many performers had been discovered here and it was an important night for the young group. After their set, The Jackson 5 won first prize and brought the house down.
After winning a talent contest at Beckman Junior High in Gary, Gordon Keith of Steeltown Records asked The Jackson 5 to sign a contract with his label. It was their first official recording contract and The Jackson 5 immediately began recording. Their first single was released in late 1967, called “Big Boy”. Although it never charted, it became a big regional hit.
In May 1968, The Jackson 5 were invited back to the Apollo, this time for a paid performance. They were also invited back to the Regal in July. While in Chicago, they opened for bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers at the High Chaparral Club. Taylor was so impressed by the group that he phoned Motown’s creative department to suggest that The Jackson 5 be allowed to audition for Motown. Artists and executives at Motown had heard through word of mouth that The Jackson 5 were an up and coming group, and while concerns were raised about their ages, the excitement the group generated could not be denied. Ralph Seltzer of Motown’s creative department asked Bobby Taylor to bring them in for an audition in Detroit.

On the 23rd of July, 1968, The Jackson 5 auditioned for Motown. Although the record company’s president, Berry Gordy, was not present, several members of Motown’s creative department were there to witness and video tape the audition for Gordy. After performing an impressive set with “I Got the Feeling” and “Who’s Lovin’ You”, the audition tape was sent to Gordy, who decided to sign the group immediately.

On the 26h of July, 1968, The Jackson 5 were officially signed to Motown Records. Michael Jackson was just 9 years old.

Their first engagement for Motown was a benefit concert for the mayor of Gary, Indiana. The Jackson 5 would be performing with a host of other Motown artists including Gladys Knight and the Pips and Bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers. The legend would be born that Diana Ross had discovered The Jackson 5 at this performance. Berry Gordy then held a formal party at his home at Christmas of 1968 to officially introduce The Jackson 5 to Motown. Diana Ross would be presenting them on their first album and at future performances.

The Jackson 5 started recording immediately for Motown under producer Bobby Taylor. During this period, the boys would go to school during the week in Gary and then go to Detroit for the weekend to record. It would not be until August 1969 that the Jackson family would be invited to move to Los Angeles to be closer to Motown’s new studios.

In early August, Diana Ross formally introduced The Jackson 5 at a private club, the Daisy in Hollywood. Five days later, they performed with Diana at a concert at the Los Angeles Forum.

The Jackson 5’s first ever national TV appearance was on the Miss Black America Pagent in August where they played “It’s Your Thing”. They then appeared on a show presented by Diana Ross, called The Hollywood Palace in October 1969. They performed their single, “I Want You Back” to an incredible reception. The group’s natural musical and vocal ability amazed the world. Michael Jackson, the front man, had all the vocal and soul qualities of a veteran performer over three times his age. No one had ever seen a child of only 11 years old with such stage presence, vocal and dancing ability and soul. This pint-sized performer knew how to create onstage drama and capture an audience. Michael Jackson had technique and style that was all his own, even at such a young age.

On October 7, 1969, The Jackson 5’s first single for Motown was officially released. “I Want You Back” was produced and written by Berry Gordy’s new writing team, The Corporation™ (made up of Berry Gordy, Freddie Perren, Alphonzo Mizell and Deke Richards). It was The Jackson 5’s first song recorded at Motown’s L.A. studios and originally intended for Gladys Knight. The song was an amazing hit, going to number 1 on the US chart (knocking the Beatles’ hit “Let It Be” out of the top spot), number 2 in the UK and selling over 4 million copies globally.


The Jackson 5’s first appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show was on 4th of December, 1969. Ed Sullivan was known for having an eye for talent and was very particular about the acts he presented. The Ed Sullivan show was a major breakthrough for The Jackson 5, who performed “Stand!”, “Who’s Lovin’ You” and “I Want You Back”, with Michael in front wearing a striking magenta hat. They would be invited back to perform another set in May 1970.


Motown released The Jackson 5’s first album on the 18th of December 1969. Titled “Diana Ross Presents The Jackson 5”, it was produced by Bobby Taylor and the Corporation™ and featured 12 songs. The album’s only single was “I Want You Back”. The album was a successful debut worldwide, charting at number 5 in the US, number 16 in the UK and staying in the charts for four weeks. The Corporation™ would work on The Jackson 5’s next seven albums for Motown.


The Jackson 5 started 1970 with more TV appearances, including their first performance on American Bandstand. The group’s second single, “ABC”, was released in February 1970. Again produced and written by The Corporation™, it went to number 1 in the US, number 8 in the UK and sold a massive 4.1 million copies world wide.
The Jackson 5’s second album, “ABC” was released in May 1970. It was another major success for the group, charting at number 5 again in the US. The album generated another hit, “The Love You Save”, which was released on May 16. It replaced the Beatles’ “The Long and Winding Road” at number 1 in the US and hit number 7 in the UK.


The Jackson 5’s first concert appearance was at the Los Angeles Forum on the 20th of May. The concert broke attendance records, selling over 18,500 tickets and grossing over $100,000. Fans rushed the stage during “The Love You Save” and the boys first experienced the “Jacksonmania” that had swept the globe, Similar mob scenes would follow them wherever they played.


The group’s forth single, “I’ll Be There”, was released in July. It was a mature themed ballad; a change of pace for the young group. It went to number 1 in the US, number 4 in the UK and sold a massive 6.1 million copies world wide, becoming one of Motown’s most successful singles. The Jackson 5 became the first music act in history whose first four singles went to number 1 on the US chart.


September 1970 marked the release of The Jackson 5’s third album, called simply, “Third Album”. It went to number 4 on the US chart and number 1 on the US R&B chart. It became the Jackson 5’s most successful album at Motown. It generated a second hit, “Mama’s Pearl”, which was issued in late 1970. It reached number 2 on the US chart, selling over 2 million copies globally. The following month, Motown issued The Jackson 5’s first and only Christmas album.


The Jackson 5 started their first national tour on the 9th of October, 1970, starting in Boston. They would play at 16 cities, finishing with a special “homecoming” performance in Gary, Indiana. They performed 2 sell out concerts at Westside High School and each member of The Jackson 5 was presented with a key to the City of Gary.


In January 1971, The Jackson 5 received the NAACP Image Award for Best Singing Group of the Year. They also attended the Grammy Awards in April where they were nominated for Best Contemporary Vocal Group. March and April were full of television and concert appearances for the boys, who would move into their new home at 4641 Hayvenhurst Avenue, Encino California in May, with the rest of their family.


The Jackson 5’s fifth album, “Maybe Tomorrow”, was released on the 12th of April, 1970. It reached number 11 on the US chart and generated 2 hits. “Never Can Say Goodbye” reached number 2 in the US and “Maybe Tomorrow”, the album’s title track went to number 2 on the US R&B chart.


The brothers then embarked on a second six month national tour, starting in July in New York and supported by the Commodores (whose front man was Lionel Ritchie). At their first concert, the Jackson 5 had to be rushed offstage less than two minutes into their first song when fans attempted to storm the stage. The concert resumed but the last song was cut short when fans again rushed the stage hoping for a closer glimpse of their idols.


In September, ABC TV aired The Jackson 5’s “Goin’ Back to Indiana” TV special. It featured guest appearances by Bill Cosby, Diana Ross and Bobby Darin. The show was supported by a live soundtrack album of the same name, recorded at The Jackson 5’s homecoming concert in Gary in 1970. The album went to number 5 on the US R&B chart.
Also in September, The Jackson 5 cartoon premiered on television. The cartoon used original Jackson 5 music, but due to their heavy schedule, the voices of the brothers would be provided by young actors.


At the end of 1971, “Sugar Daddy” was released from The Jackson 5’s first Greatest Hits LP. The song went to number 10 in the US.


On October 7th, 1971, Michael Jackson’s first ever solo single, “Got To Be There”, was released. It was a soulful love song that showed off thirteen year old Michael’s amazing vocal ability. The song went to number 4 in the US and number 5 in the UK and sold almost 2 million copies. By this time, Michael had eight chart topping singles and six albums with his brothers.
In January 1971, Michael’s first ever solo album “Got To Be There” was released. It had a beautiful mix of ballads and up tempo numbers perfectly suited to Michael’s range and style. Young Michael had shown that he could carry a full album all on his own. The album charted at number 14 in the US and number 37 in the UK. “Got To Be There” generated 3 more singles. “Rockin’ Robin” hit number 2 in the US and number 3 in the UK. “I Wanna Be Where You Are” hit number 16 in the US and “Ain’t No Sunshine” was a European only release that reached number 8 in the UK.


The Jackson 5’s sixth album, “Lookin’ Through The Windows” was released in May of 1972. It charted at number 7 in the US and spawned 2 singles; “Little Bitty Pretty One” and the album’s title track which both charted in the top 20 and sold over a million copies each.


Michael Jackson’s fourth single, “Ben”, was released in August 1972. The song was written for a film of the same name and was about a young man and his pet rat. The response to the single was massive; going to number 1 in the US and Australia and number 7 in the UK and selling over 2 million copies. It became Michael Jackson’s first ever solo number 1 single. Michael became the third youngest artist to have a number 1 hit at just fourteen years old. The song was nominated for an Academy Award in 1973, where Michael performed the song. “Ben” won the Golden Globe for Best Original Song in 1973.
Michael’s second solo album, “Ben”, was also released in August. An album rich in ballads, it showed Michael’s vocal growth and ability. It reached number 5 in the US and number 17 in the UK.


In November of 1972, the brothers appeared on Soul Train to perform a medley of hits. They also hosted their own “Jackson 5 Show” where they performed several hits and sketches. They then embarked on their first ever European tour. In England, they gave a Royal Command Performance for the Queen and performed on Top Of The Pops.


In March 1973, the “Skywriter” album was released. It was a turning point for the Jackson 5, and it would be their last album with The Corporation™. The album would not sell as well as their previous efforts, mainly due to lack of promotion because The Jackson 5 had began a world tour. The album generated three singles: “Corner of the Sky”, which was a top 20 US hit; “Doctor My Eyes”, which reached number 9 in the UK; and “Hallelujah Day” which hit number 20 in the UK.
Motown issued Michael Jackson’s third solo effort, “Music and Me” on April 13th 1973. Again due to low promotion, the album did not sell as well as Michael’s previous albums. One single was released from it: “With A Child’s Heart”, which reached number 14 on the US R&B chart.


The Jackson 5’s first major world tour started in Japan in late March 1973. The tour would last until September, travelling to Australia and New Zealand and back to the United States.
In September 1973, The Jackson 5 released another album, “G.I.T: Get It Together”. Michael’s voice was now noticeably more mature and the Jackson 5’s overall sound changed as they experimented with a new disco / funk sound. The album’s title track was released as a single and became a major hit, selling over a million copies and going to number 28 in the US.


In February 1974, the single “Dancing Machine” was released from the “G.I.T” album. The disco infused number was hugely popular, reaching number 2 in the US and selling approximately 3 million copies. The Jackson 5 performed the number on Soul Train with an amazing robot dance routine by Michael. Michael Jackson was considered to be the pioneer of the robot dance and his performance during “Dancing Machine” certainly popularized this disco dance style.
In April 1974, The Jackson family starred in their own show at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The show boasted a variety of song and dance numbers from the Jackson 5 and other family members Janet, La Toya and Randy. The show had a different format and presentation to The Jackson 5’s usual performances for Motown and the family had total control of the show’s content. The show was extremely well received with stunning reviews and after their first series of shows in April, the family went back to Las Vegas to perform in August and then again in November.
Motown issued the Jackson 5 album “Dancing Machine” in September 1974. The album also featured the track “Dancing Machine”, due to the song’s popularity. The album went onto sell over 2 million copies. It generated three singles. “I Am Love” was the major hit from the album; reaching number 15 in the US and selling over a million copies.


In January 1975, Michael Jackson’s fourth album was released, called “Forever Michael”. Two singles were released from it: “We’re Almost There” and “Just a Little Bit of You”, which were both top 40 hits. “Forever Michael” reached number 10 on the US R&B chart. It would be Michael Jackson’s last studio album for Motown.


The Jackson 5’s last studio album for Motown, “Moving Violation”, was released in May 1975. “Forever Came Today” was the only single released from the album. The album and single were not major successes, and the Jackson 5 had become unhappy with Motown’s promotion. The Jackson 5’s time at Motown had come to a close. The brothers had already begun writing their own songs and they were looking for creative freedom; something that Motown was not willing to give them. Motown had taken Michael Jackson and his brothers as far as they could and The Jackson 5 would leave Motown, minus brother Jermaine, in 1975 to sign with Epic records.


During their six years at Motown, The Jackson 5 had worked hard; recording over 450 songs of which only 174 were released. They made a total of ten studio albums and generated ten top 10 US and UK hits. They had made numerous television appearances and toured America several times. Young Michael Jackson had released four albums of his own and generated a major number 1 hit. Under Motown’s direction The Jackson 5 had made a massive impact in the music world and Michael Jackson had become the youngest vocalist ever to top the US charts.


Next read about the Jacksons Era, 1975- 1978, when the Jackson leave Motown and Jermaine leaves the group.

http://www.allmichaeljackson.com/era/jackson5/

902 days ago
287.

Robyn Hope    

I'd b in favor of releasing C.Murray from jail, pending his appeal. He most certainly has legit reason 2 appeal his manslaughter conviction - "improper exclusion of defense evidence" - absolutely - this wasn't a fair trial.

902 days ago
288.

MiMi    


How do I promote my blogs? Anyone interested to read controversial Michael Jackson article, pls let me know. RH Report abuse

Robyn Hope
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Your Blogs URL: michaeljacksoncontroversy.blogspot.com
Browser(s) used: Safari
Location: Vancouver, B.C.
Because I'm a "newbie", I was unaware of the fact that I had to promote my blog in order to be seen. This is hard work for me because I'm a bit of a loner; not in contact with a lot of people. I don't really like the social net works --- just basically wanted my blog about Michael Jackson seen by others --- and because it's current, I think it should be listed somewhere. I have a unique take on what I think killed the King of Pop; albeit I wouldn't consider it popular --- nonetheless, I think it's worth seeing and discussing --- especially now that Dr. C. Murray will be facing a manslaughter charge next month.
I hope you can help me. Robyn Hope

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What blog?


LoL

902 days ago
289.

Cherwood    

EXORCISM no. 53.....
Oye. I see some things NEVER change....
TMZ is STILL determined to report on anything REMOTELY about Michael such as this little tidbit. But I will say this for James, despite his legal disposition the crux of his situation is the fact that he was put in a cell next to Murray....he-he-hee and ee!!
That said, I want to tell the true Michael fans how extremely PROUD I am that you refuse to LOWER yourselves to the level of the LOONIES on board. This board alone shows that they are seething with RAGE, practically chasing their tails in their FEEBLE attempts to get us to respond to their DELUSIONS. You are all my heroes for maintaining your dignity in the midst of the darkness on these boards. Just imagine how SAD and PATHETIC it must be to feel the need to constantly TRASH someone you never knew who's only motivation in life was to make other's HAPPY through his BEAUTIFUL MUSIC and PERFORMANCE...
Psychotherapists of the world, take note....
The thing that these IDIOTS don't realize is that we could CARE LESS what they think of Michael, because we KNOW how great he was and have no need to depend on numbers to back that up....
But if numbers are what they want...
1. Michael IS the GREATEST ENTERTAINER in the WORLD even in death. Anyone who needs PROOF of this, need only check the RIAA, National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, ASCAP, Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame, and the Guiness Book of World Records...it doesn't get any better than that....
2. Michael's Concert Tours continue to be in the Top Tours of all time and no wonder since he performed almost THREE HOURS STRAIGHT--a feat that most performers today could only DREAM of...
3. As for "Thriller", it ranked number 20 on Rolling Stone magazine's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time list in 2003,[8] and was listed by the National Association of Recording Merchandisers at number three in its Definitive 200 Albums of All Time. The Thriller album was included in the Library of Congress' National Recording Registry of culturally significant recordings, and the Thriller video was included in the National Film Preservation Board's National Film Registry of "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant films."
The album was one of the first to use music videos as successful promotional tools—the videos for "Thriller", "Billie Jean" and "Beat It" all received regular rotation on MTV....
And for the record, don't let these IDIOTS spout off that Michael wasn't responsible for his music simply because someone else wrote some of the songs on "Thriller" and "Off the Wall". It's true that Rod Temperton and a few other AMAZING writers worked their magic on those albums, and of course, Quincy and Bruce Swedien were irreplaceable as Producer and Engineer for this Masterpiece. It's easy to ASSume that the writers, Producers and Engineers who worked with Michael deserve the credit--they do deserve SOME credit, HOWEVER, every one of Michael's biggest hits to date are tracks that HE WROTE. As for Quincy and Bruce, any idiot knows they did an EXCELLENT job, HOWEVER, the question is have they ever reached the SAME LEVEL OF SUCCESS as whenever they've worked with MICHAEL? Not even close. And Q is a legend, having won awards for scoring films and etc., but as good as he is, he couldn't have garnered the "Thriller" level of success without Michael...
And to the naysayers, I say: CHECK YOUR FACTS! Anyone who knows ANYTHING about Michael knows that the album Quincy and Co. originally planned to release to the label was so disconnected that Michael CRIED and BEGGED them not to release it. He then went back over every track with them and perfected it into the Masterpiece it is today...
After "Thriller", Q realized that Michael's genius was integral to the success of any Music he released and he was always the primary Writer on every work thereafter....
-Michael remains the most respected Entertainer in Contemporary Music History with many Artists such as Eddie Van Halen, Lenny Kravitz and Will.i.am citing him as the favorite artist they ever collaborated with....
Bottom line, it's no secret that even now, everyone in the Music Industry wants to attch themselves to Michael, because his work endures as CLASSIC, GENIUS, and PASSIONATE!! If you listen to any of his music you can hear his blood pumping and heart beat in it. The only other artist who achieved anything similar is J.B., Michael's mentor. The problem most people have is that they never listened to anything beyond "Bad" or "Dangerous" which is a CRIME since most of his best work can be found in the "HIStory", "Blood on the Dance Floor", and "Invincible" mainly because they contain tracks that are about what Michael LIVED, not what he SAW....BIG difference....HUGE....
And now one more record (in a million) to leave you with:
The "MICHAEL!" tribute show by GLEE was it's most watched program, receiving a 3.7/10 Nielsen rating/share in the 18–49 demographic, and attracted 9.07 million American viewers during its initial airing, an increase of over 20% from the previous episode, "Yes/No"....
let the LOONIES say, UH-OH....if they're able to stop FROTHING at the mouth, that is....
.................SIZZLING AS EVER.....................

901 days ago
290.

Dose Of Reality    

Hilarious!
What goes on in that dented can of a head you have?

901 days ago
291.

Dose Of Reality    

mymjj5.: 11 hours ago

BnB: 8 hours ago

mymjj5.: 3 hours ago

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
- Abraham Lincoln
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back to the lincoln administration?........a century after his assassination people were still fighting for the right to vote, education, fair housing, and employment.....
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Oh, and the Jews suffering ended with Moses right?
Sorry, just borrowing your stupid logic for a moment.
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@bnb
You're the damn fool on this. Jews are still suffering persecution throughout the world. Have at it all you want too. I will not mock the pain and suffering of Jehovah God's chosen people.
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Hilarious!
What goes on in that dented can of a head you have?
(sorry for the mispost above)

901 days ago
292.

Dose Of Reality    

MooMoo, are you disputing the numbers I posted? They may be slightly off but not by much and I was generous. How many performances since 1998?


Also, your J5 history disputes your fellow stuperfan's statements that basically stated that Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5 were suffering on the chitlin circuit from the 1950's until the 1980's being persecuted and living in a totally segregated society with virtually no exposure in white society. I don't believe that to be true but since it came from a fan, it must be.

901 days ago
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294.

Dose Of Reality    

mymjj4:
I will not mock the pain and suffering of Jehovah God's chosen people.
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I have no problem with that statement but there is at least one radical christian among the stuperfans that may take it as an assault on Jesus himself. From their faulty logic, how can the Jews be Jehova's chosen people if they are not Christians and able to quote scripture? You see, because Jewish people do not acknowledge Jesus as the son of god and believe in their "cut & paste" version of the King James Bible where certain things are undeniable truth and others ignored. This is much like their faith in Michael Jackson himself. You see, full understanding of the bible was given to them free of any influence. I'm just trying to save you the wrath of one or more of the stuperfans, you may want to retract it.

901 days ago
295.
296.

mymjj5.    

Hilarious!
What goes on in that dented can of a head you have?
(sorry for the mispost above)
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My mind is always focused on Truth and Facts.
Not opinionated distorted hogwash that fumigates non stop from you.

900 days ago
297.

mymjj5.    

I have no problem with that statement but there is at least one radical christian among the stuperfans that may take it as an assault on Jesus himself. From their faulty logic, how can the Jews be Jehova's chosen people if they are not Christians and able to quote scripture? You see, because Jewish people do not acknowledge Jesus as the son of god and believe in their "cut & paste" version of the King James Bible where certain things are undeniable truth and others ignored. This is much like their faith in Michael Jackson himself. You see, full understanding of the bible was given to them free of any influence. I'm just trying to save you the wrath of one or more of the stuperfans, you may want to retract it
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I have no problem with that statement but there is at least one radical christian among the stuperfans that may take it as an assault on Jesus himself. From their faulty logic, how can the Jews be Jehova's chosen people if they are not Christians and able to quote scripture? You see, because Jewish people do not acknowledge Jesus as the son of god and believe in their "cut & paste" version of the King James Bible where certain things are undeniable truth and others ignored. This is much like their faith in Michael Jackson himself. You see, full understanding of the bible was given to them free of any influence. I'm just trying to save you the wrath of one or more of the stuperfans, you may want to retract it

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Jesus is a Jew. If you dare read the Old testament before shooting off your ignorant mouth you would know that God Jehovah chose Abraham (a Jew from Iran) and made a covenant with him for the land of Israel. Most of the so called Jews in Israel today are not Jews by blood. They are Jews by conversion to Judaism. meaning they talk the talk but cannot walk the walk....they want to be seen by society as being holy but deny the power thereof: meaning denying Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the only way to eternal life. There's nothing new about that. Jesus was rejected by the Jews 2000 years ago. The Gentiles (non Jews) accepted Him and still do so today. Jesus did not say we had to be Christians He said we must be born again. We must believe in Him and on His Name.

Cutting and pasting scripture does not change the meaning. Many ministers don't use paperback bibles anymore. They use a laptop, ipad or some other electronic device. The larger or mega churches use big screens and power point for their sermons and teachings. The use of the computer or electronics in general does not change or limit the power of the scripture.

The Abrahamic Covenant:

•To make of Abraham a great nation and to bless those who bless him and curse those who curse him and all peoples on earth would be blessed through Abraham.[Gen 12:1-3]
•Cir***cision is to be the permanent sign of this everlasting covenant with Abraham and his male descendants and is known as the covenant of cir***cision.[Gen 17:9-14]
•To give Abraham's descendants all the land from the river (or wadi) of Egypt to the Euphrates. [Gen 15:18-21] Wadi means seasonal river in reference to the Nile Delta which flooded seasonally during those days. Later, this land came to be referred to as the Promised Land or the Land of Israel,
•To make Abraham a father of many nations and of many descendants and the land of Canaan as well as the entire middle-east to his descendant.[Gen 17:2-9]

For the last time I don't have faith in Michael Jackson. I love Michael Jackson because of the wonderful person he was. Although there was something divine about him, Michael was a human being..........not deity.

900 days ago
298.

Dose Of Reality    

mymjj4:
Hilarious once again MooMoo. Not only can't you understand the meaning and intent of a statement but you can't even take a simple sentence and grasp the words in front of you.
It's like if I said something about Ohio and you went on a rant about Afghanistan. You shouldn't post too far between doses of whatever medication you are on.


As far as the Old Testament and Jewish people in particular, you seem to take up and put down the old testament at will. Important one moment, and ignored the next. Another hilarious statement is that Jews in Israel are not Jews by blood. By that same definition, would you be a Christian (or whatever you call yourself) by blood? Humans existed before Jesus, and Judaism, therefore there would be a convert in all our pasts.

900 days ago
299.

LadyD    

Many Prayers, Hugs and much more Love to all who visit this board. May you find a calm peace of mind and a deep fulfilling sense of love. May you find a true purpose to living your lives and making a difference.

899 days ago
300.

mymjj5.    

what happened to my earler post tmz? did i squish bnb's cry baby feelings or yours?

899 days ago
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