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10/23/2012 7:30 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
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President Barack Obama has offended the bayonet community ... TMZ has learned.

TMZ spoke with multiple people in the bayonet industry who tell us they were shocked and even offended when Obama brought up the weapon during last night's debate.

FYI -- Obama was going after Romney when he said, "You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military's changed."



According to the official U.S. Marine Corps website, every Marine is STILL required to complete a bayonet training program ... because "the weapon becomes just as effective [as a rifle] in close combat situations."

We spoke with Dan Riker from Bayonet Inc. -- a leading military surplus outlet that specializes in bayonets -- who tells us he believes Obama's comment was "ignorant ... because our soldiers still use bayonets."

He adds, “[Bayonets] are still distributed to the military all the time -- he should get educated on it”

For the record, Riker says he won't be voting for Obama ... "and I didn't vote for him last election either."

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151.

hellbomb1    

REALLY?? GET A SENSE OF HUMOR, AND KEEP IT IN CONTEXT

733 days ago
152.

D    

He didn't say they don't use bayonets, he said they use FEWER bayonets. And they most likely do.

733 days ago
153.

jude    

I am so disappointed in TMZ first they add stories like this without checking the facts! And why do they give Trump the blow hard ANY time is beyond us. He calls so they jump to it??? Ignore the SOB - he has been such a lying bully this whole election (well actually long before) IGNORE him and maybe he'll go away. We really dislike him and not just because he is a Republican of the worse kind.

733 days ago
154.

Thomas M.    

For the record US military personnel are currently using horses and mules in Afghanistan in the high country were jeeps and humvees are not suited for the terrain.

As for how many times the bayonets have been used. There are numerous do***ent cases of both US military personnel and UK forces used bayonets in everything from crowd control (for some reason the Iraqis don't blink when you point a rifle at them but a pistol or a rifle with a bayonet attached gains their compliance and attention) to use in close quarters combat.

The British have at least two record bayonet charges in Iraq. They also have one on record from Desert Storm.

733 days ago
155.

ashley    

"FEWER"......what is so hard to understand about that word?

733 days ago
156.

Mikey    

We use less horses so why would we need as many warships.


Someone please give the dunce his teleprompter back.

733 days ago
157.

jacksonfive210    

This Story helps Obama because it takes away the huge issues like the economy, Health care, killing small business, more spying on American citizens. American needs to stop believing everything a politician says and look at the real facts and realize how much money (which American doesn't have) is going to be spent in the future. Obama you have to cut spreading like you said you would do back in 08 and it's going to suck for some people but it needs to be done or we are going to turn into west china.

733 days ago
158.

Mumra the Ever Living    

Thomas M. made a big deal out of the fact that there had been two "bayonet charges" by the British in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. Here is a web page about the attack:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9571522/Soldier-who-led-Afghanistan-bayonet-charge-into-hail-of-bullets-honoured.html
Here is part of the rather long article:
" Firing a rocket at one of the insurgent positions, Cpl Jones ordered three of his men to fix bayonets before breaking cover and leading them across 80 metres of open ground . . . As two of the soldiers provided fire support, Cpl Jones prepared a hand grenade for the final assault. He raced towards an alley and was about to throw the grenade but said he realised that the buildings were occupied so put the grenade away . . "
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Hmmm, it seems as if the rocket fire, the hail of British bullets and the threat of hand grenades kind of made the afghans run away. Did you notice that after the words "fix bayonets" they were never mentioned again? The reason why they were never mentioned again is because they were never actually used.
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You know, all solders carry a mess kit, so can we say instead that they Knife and Fork charge. The article said they ran for about 80 yards under "withering fire". Would you care to tell me how useful those bayonets were under that withering fire?
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Ignorant people using half their hearing to make uninformed assumptions. Just another day at TMZ.

733 days ago
159.

Mumra the Ever Living    

Thomas M. made a big deal out of the fact that there had been two "bayonet charges" by the British in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. Here is a web page about the attack:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9571522/Soldier-who-led-Afghanistan-bayonet-charge-into-hail-of-bullets-honoured.html
Here is part of the rather long article:
" Firing a rocket at one of the insurgent positions, Cpl Jones ordered three of his men to fix bayonets before breaking cover and leading them across 80 metres of open ground . . . As two of the soldiers provided fire support, Cpl Jones prepared a hand grenade for the final assault. He raced towards an alley and was about to throw the grenade but said he realised that the buildings were occupied so put the grenade away . . "
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Hmmm, it seems as if the rocket fire, the hail of British bullets and the threat of hand grenades kind of made the afghans run away. Did you notice that after the words "fix bayonets" they were never mentioned again? The reason why they were never mentioned again is because they were never actually used.
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You know, all solders carry a mess kit, so can we say instead that they Knife and Fork charge. The article said they ran for about 80 yards under "withering fire". Would you care to tell me how useful those bayonets were under that withering fire?
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Ignorant people using half their hearing to make uninformed assumptions. Just another day at TMZ.

733 days ago
160.

Chris    

Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan were NOT issued bayonets. Not every soldier learns to use a bayonet because many modern rifles don't have a place to fix a bayonet on them. Obama never said they DO NOT use bayonets, he said they use them less which is completely true. There also has not been a bayonet charge in war since the Korean war.

733 days ago
161.

Mikey    

You can't believe anything Obama says. He's a dunce, The only business he ever ran was selling cocaine when he was in college and he didn't make the numbers work out to well then either, but I suspect he was using too much inventory for personal use at the time.

733 days ago
162.

jacksonfive210    

I swear I really feel like to many people want big government! It's funny usually when a politician breaks so many huge promises and has failed policy after policy they vote them out not this year. Does anyone else find it weird Obama doesn't care to meet with netanyahu when we have had all these problems in the middle east and a huge problem with Iran. I know israel is far from innocent but still it's a huge problem that is going to end up biting us in the ass later.

733 days ago
163.

silversleeper    

Obama said, "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military's changed."

He did not say they no longer use them. If everyone reads the transcript he didn't say they don't (use) them anymore.

733 days ago
164.

myopinion    

LMAO!!!! This guy sounds like he DOESN"T like President Obama NEVER HAVE & NEVER WILL!!! That is his choice! Obama/Biden 2012

733 days ago
165.

Bryan    

Obama is such a Smartass......
Adios Amigo!!

733 days ago
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