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Joe Rogan

Transgender MMA Fighter

CAN'T Fight Women!!!!

3/19/2013 8:38 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

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Joe Rogan
-- the voice of the UFC -- is taking a stand on transgender MMA fighter Fallon Fox ... saying  there's "no f**king way" she should be allowed to get in the ring with a natural woman.

Rogan unloaded on Fox during his podcast, "The Joe Rogan Experience" -- saying, "She calls herself a woman but ... I tend to disagree."

He continues, "She used to be a man ... but now she has had, she's a transgender which is (the) official term that means you've gone through it, right? And she wants to be able to fight women in MMA. I say no f**king way."

"I say if you had a d*ck at one point in time, you also have all the bone structure that comes with having a d*ck. You have bigger hands, you have bigger shoulder joints. You're a f**king man. That's a man, OK?"

"I don't care if you don't have a d*ck any more," Rogan added ... "You're a man without a d*ck."

**WARNING -- VIDEO CONTAINS EXPLICIT LANGUAGE **



(H/T Bloody Elbow)

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151.

Paul    

if TMZ feels like this is important enough to pull from his podcast and make a, "news" story out of it, there SHOULD be endless articles derived from conversations he's had. the only reason this was singled out is because the issue of transgender equality is so buzzworthy, it seems like if ANYONE said ANYTHING negatively about the subject, they would be singled out like this as well.

one of the first things mentioned in that article is that Rogan is the, "Face of the UFC." DON'T YOU THINK WE CAN INFER FROM THAT STATEMENT THAT HE KNOWS FIGHTING AND THE DYNAMICS OF FIGHTING TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION THAT THIS TRANNY POWERHOUSE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUNCH WOMEN???

481 days ago
152.

manbearpig    

this transgender crap has gone WAY too far!!!
we are whatever we are born as. science back it up too.

481 days ago
153.

P. J. Gonzalez    

she should be allowed to compete against women, She is a woman, and the hormoes she had taken had affected her body, she can't compete against men. The arguments he is discussing are illogical. Even if she was born a man, she may not have an advantage against women, MMA is also based on skills. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_%28male-to-female%29

481 days ago
154.

P. J. Gonzalez    

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzJ-QfJBSQg&list=UUAKzQxhj6vtaoS_KCxhy3Uw&index=1

481 days ago
155.

marti    

Thats a Man baby !

481 days ago
156.

Angie    

In a weight class sport, there is no reason that men and women should not fight one another, but men wouldn't be able to handle getting their butt kicked by women so they (men) keep the gender classes to protect the frail male egos. Testosterone levels are tested when doing drug tests so just do the drug tests & if Fallon's testosterone levels fall within the acceptable range for women then let her fight in the WMMA. Just as any athlete who tests outside of the normal range for their specified gender, you don’t get to fight & if said athletes test within the normal range for their specified gender then they get to compete – SIMPLE!! The only fighters at a disadvantage against Fallon are male because she is female. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mfn5As4G5o

480 days ago
157.

nini    

f I, a female, start taking testosterone I am going to become the incredible hulk, grow 10 inches taller, bulk up and join the NBA or NFL? No. If it doesn't work both ways it isn't fair. Period. The rule should be you have to get a sex change before any secondary sex traits/or puberty happens.

480 days ago
158.

nini    

What is this world coming to? Gabrielle Ludwig 6'6" basketball player for a junior college women's team. Former MARINE, with children, etc., decides to become a woman and is allowed to compete against other women? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/transgender-college-hoops-player-head-high-article-1.1220117

480 days ago
159.

Monica    

He is a man. No surgery will ever change that fact. If you don't have ovaries, a uterus, etc., you are not a woman - period. Cutting you stuff off won't change that. To me, he has a thick man waist and a man face. You are a man who would have an advantage over a woman. I have no problem with his desire to be transgender. Do what you feel in your heart? Be happy. But don't try to fight women. Is he afraid to fight men. I totally agree with Joe Rogan. You ain't nor ever will be a woman.

480 days ago
160.

T. R. Anny    

The only difference, competitively speaking, between a born woman and a transsexual woman who has been on estrogen for 2+ years would be skeletal structure. **** whatever politics you have about the sex of this fighter- There is one and only one competitive difference. There ought to be no muscular difference aside those caused by the abnormal skeletal structure. If this single difference gives significant advantage, the fighter ought to be barred from competing in women's boxing.
I cannot honestly say if this is or is not an advantage in boxing, as I know nothing about the sport, but I do know about the transsexual side of this issue.

478 days ago
161.

PaulieG    

Heard she's gonna fight soon maybe vs Cyborg Santos is this TRUE? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QxQjKBENMM

477 days ago
162.

Woman    

Of course he/she should not be able to fight women. It would be completely unfair. Even if Fallon has choosen to live her life as a woman (which I have no problem with) she will still have the strength of a man. Forget about Transgendered rights what about woman's rights?

476 days ago
163.

bus    

LEAVE JOE ROGAN ALONE! (hiding back in bed sheets)

476 days ago
164.

newsjunkie69    

After hormone treatment she, or he as everyone calls her, lost her male traits such as increased muscularity. Besides im sure these girls are on growth hormones n steroids anyway. I think Rogan is and always be a an arrogant *******!!!! And fk u all who give a thumbs down.

475 days ago
165.

Kat    

I agree (mostly) with Drew, for the sake of fairness.

I'm transgendered, and I have a few comments about the statements made in this section.

Summed up: "She used to be a man, and therefore still has man strength."

This could actually be very untrue. Assuming she's taking female hormones (which at this stage in her life she likely is considering she's publicly presenting herself), those are what's mostly responsible for fat and muscle development that we consider to be male or female. It actually becomes difficult to maintain muscle mass once you are on female hormones. In that, she'd have to work very hard and probably end up with about the same strength as genetic female MMA fighters.
Considering she's not in any way intersexed (as in, partially truly female [yes thats possible]), you win on the bone structure argument but, you need those all important muscles to make those bones move, so my above statements apply. I'm sure there are some fairly masculinely structured genetic women who would be allowed to fight in the MMA.

But, as with my point at the beginning, with any competition you need agreement among the participating competitors on what should be allowed. I feel though, that if she was put in her appropriate weight class then she would have plenty of challenge.

"And that's all I have to say about that." -Forrest Gump

475 days ago
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