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TMZ Live 10/22/13: Kim Kardashian & Kanye West -- Engagement Party Goes Way Over-the-Top

Kim Kardashian and Kanye West finally got engaged, and they did it in a BIG way ... maybe too big?? If you had the money ... would YOU drop that kinda cash -- renting out an entire stadium -- just for a proposal? Imagine what the wedding's gonna be like! Plus, Katharine McPhee's very public makeout session with her "Smash" director. Problem is ... he's still married to Mary McCormack. Is she headed down the same path as Kristen Stewart? And, "Project Runway" contestant Ari South (formerly Andy South) joins us to talk about being a transgender -- and the screwed up hoops she had to jump through to begin her transformation

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