Anna to be Buried in the Bahamas

1156. I googled it and can't find it anywhere.

Posted at 11:22PM on Mar 1st 2007 by StraihtNotNarrow

1157. 1078 .. On another site I read many different opinions on the ANS Will once the copy was released/made public (by TMZ) Basically, everyone agreed that the attorney who drafted the will (Lund) did a "p$zz poor job" and HKS, who should have but apparently didn't, proof read it before ANS signed it. It also doesn't say very much about Mr. Rale's(sp) ability since HKS, Rale(sp) and Lund were all executors. Depending on where the said will is filed (and no, I have not heard if they even found the original or if it was even filed) - California (where the will stated was her legal residence) or Florida (where she died) that it probably wasn't worth the paper it was written on any longer since a new will had not been drafted or signed designating Dannielynn sole heir to ANS estate given Daniel preceded his mother in death. Therefore, ANS died intestate and HKS would not be considered the executor, nor would Lund or Rale.

The applicable probate court would then appoint the legal heir a trustee/executor to manage/oversee the inheritence from ANS estate. Daniel preceded his mother in death so nothing would go to his heir(s) unless Daniel had his own will designating his wishes. Since the will specifically states that ANS intent was to exclude any future children, etc. , the next in line to inherit her estate in the order of intestate probate proceedings would be her mother, Virgie Arthur. If ANS and HKS had been married before her death, then HKS would be next in line.

Personally, I'm not sure if the tears in my eyes are forming because of the irritation that the one who so adamantly stated that ANS was the love of his life (HKS) was really that stupid in protecting her interests, arrogant in ensur$ng his -or- just the sheer delight of the thought of Virgie Arthur getting a legal one-up on HKS and LB, who have reportedly been "negot$at$ng." Lends credence as to why ANS will was such a hot topic for teams HKS and LB to address in court and why team LB was so adamant in getting DNA testing done asap.

Still, it doesn't say much for HKS's legal abilities though or whether ANS was lucid when she signed the willl - and I'm sure that will be another arguing point since we've all heard the confirmations (denials and half-truths) as to her mental state while on meds. Saying that, she sure didn't have the best legal representation did she? Then again, if ANS wasn't lucid, they purgered themselves during their testimony last week and ANS died before the "big plan" could get rolling.

If the will had been filed in the Bahamas it would be within their probate jurisdiction, assuming that ANS had established legal residence and legally owned property that established that residency, because the Bahama court favors the child(ren) of the decedent and grandparent(s) rights, or had been in a manogamous marriage or in a recognized extraresidential union at the time of death, and assuming they recognized the will within Bahamian law. This is where the ownership of the Horizons home is a major deciding factor. If the second home was purchased in HKS name and Thompson is legally the owner of the Horizon home, ANS residency is invalid (unless the burial plots were in her name and in the purchase was at least $500K).

Furtunately/unfortunately (depending on your expectation), if the will was(?) filed in the Florida county where she died - who knows since that part of the State of Florida can't get voting straight and certainly has proven that the judges can bend State law to their liking [preference/favoritism] without rebuttal repercussion.

There is no Bahamian law that I could find that addresses "common-law" marriages specifically. There is no diffinitive reference to common-law marriages in the Bahamas only that they recognize "extraresidential unions" .. refer to Marriage, Family, and Kinship at http://www.everyculture.com/A-Bo/Bahama-Islands.html. Since ANS and HKS had a "commitment ceremony" there may be a loophole applicable in Bahamian law but, as stated above,only if ANS will is filed and recognized in the Bahamas. Nonetheless, HKS does not, unless Bahamian law mandates, have to submit to DNA testing to establish paternity since he is listed on the birth certificate and the father. This is in his interest not to submit to DNA testing since the Bahamas favors the parentage of the child (and the grandmothers rights). Additionally, Bahamian Law follows English Law.

Neither California or Florida are common-law states. However, Texas is. Since Florida does not recognize common-law unions, ANZ and HKS would have to have been legally married for Florida to conclusively regognize any claim made by HKS in Florida probate court. LB, if established the biological father wouldn't gain much legal "wiggle room" in Florida probate either (just the way I read it and not necessary 100% correct).

No wonder HKS was making a point that he and ANS and were to be married .. or was it just going to be HKS wedd$ng? Since ANS and HKS cohabitated without apparent (opps ANS pa$d his appartment rent) separation for over 10 years, HKS could receive Social Security Benefits on ANS account (assuming that SS taxes had been regulary on her earnings paid prior to her death) as ANS common-law husband IF they had cohabitated in a State that recognized such unions and a child(ren) had been born out of that uniont. (Bet he wished they would have cohabitated in Texas now huh!) Additionally, Dannielynn can receive SS benefits as a minor child of the decedent if, and when, her citizenship is established. Likewise, the minor child's parent is entitled to SS Survivor benefits until the child reaches the 18th birthday or the child(ren) continues their education after completing secondary education, again only if the child was born as the child of a common-law marriage in a state recognizing the union.

Additionally, some concluded that when ANS filed for bankruptcy in 2001 it was for several reasons .. the wording (intent) in ANS will was to exclude her late husbands (HGM) children to any portion of her estate in the case of her death should she have won an award in the second trial (she won, they appealed and she lost) and thus, only specified Daniel as her one and only heir. ANS was, afterall, their step-mother and they would be entitled to pursue their share of her estate. The bankruptcy essentially shielded her from paying court costs, damages, etc., that HGN's heirs (children) were awarded during their appeal .. not to mention the large monetary award given to an employee (of ANS) who won their case (sexual harrassment) on or about the same time as the second trial over Marshall's estate was being heard. Her victory ruling in the US Supreme Court only paved the way for her to continue to pursue legal proceedings/remedy for part of the Marshall estate - not a monetary award to any part of the Marshall fortune. That battle could go on for years and never be settled (just as ANS may very well never be settled). By excluding all children, the will in essence also excluded Dannielynn.

Also, don't discount any others (creditors, etc.) who may have/want to lay claim to a portion ANS's estate in this tangled scenario of probate (intestate) law.

You really have to love the internet! Not everybody is stupid .. anybody with the ability (or enough curosity) can do the research and figure out what the game plan is .. screw over everybody (including Dannielynn)!

The tarnished remnants of Dannielynn's legacy will far over shadow the dazzling funeral of her mother as the true mot$ves become abundantly clear. I'm starting to believe that it was something more than "unusual" for a son and mother to die 5 months apart . Munchausen's comes immediately to mind - proving it is another matter.

Posted at 11:47PM on Mar 1st 2007 by willywills

1158. Where are people getting their information that Anna was raped? Ive listened to the interview on ET a dozen times.....where was rape mentioned? Here is the quote on the ET site:

"I've never spoken about it. I gave my parents respect, because that's what God says.

But Anna Nicole felt that all changed when her mother started talking to the media about her, following the death of her son DANIEL.

"You want to hear all the things she did to me? You want to hear all the things she let my father do to me? Or my brother do to me? Or my sister? All the beatings and the whippin's? That's my mother. That's my mom," Anna Nicole alleged to Mark."

Can someone tell me where they are getting the info. on these rape charges? And dont give me she acts like someone whose been raped. Thats such a self-serving cope out.

Posted at 1:49AM on Mar 2nd 2007 by Lynda

1159. watch her on et anna herself said she was raped

Posted at 1:08PM on Mar 2nd 2007 by cathy

1160. watch her on et anna herself said she was raped

Posted at 1:08PM on Mar 2nd 2007 by cathy

1161. Lynda, you have the entire transcript correct...except for a small line it was the same video..of her discussing her hatred for "mommie dearest".......she said " All the whippings, the beatings, the rape by my father ; then she says what my brother did to me, or my sister. " that's my mama...

Posting...as FACT ....only because I have seen it uh...10 times ..but she says it in that video....that you recapped in your post.....you couldn't hear it in the courtroom, so I paid attention when I saw it later......along with closed caption...it was on Nancy Grace..again last night... they were discussing it..and clearly you could hear those words..spoken, and titled??

Her comment that she still cried for her mama.....all the time, even when Daniel died...that's unconditional love...but, HER mother betrayed her ...fact....it was the final nail in the coffin... so to speak... So Anna told the entire world what her mama let happen to her..only after Virgie went on National TV and accused the 2 people in the room with Daniel... of murder...crazy bitch...everyone wonders where Anna learned her survival skills from..and why she was not the perfect parent...but she had love for her children...and as only she knew how..she didn't have the best example that's for sure...but she did love her kids...My opinion

Questions ...about the man Virgie didn't want to talk about ...in court I believe it was Mr. Hogan..he was the only one ...she didn't mention.....but he left when Anna was 2 as I understand it...
so whoever...Virgie was married to that raised Anna when she was young......as a father figure to her......might be the father.... she was referring to.in the video...can't say..
Mr Hogan did leave the courtroom after the video..was shown and did not return...?? If she remembers the incident..which clearly she did....could not have been d Hogan, he himself said he didn't see her from age 2 until she was 20... when they reconciled...for a short time...
But Virgie was married 5-6 times..God knows how many others in between....but that is not the reason I don't care for her...
Just like I don't care if Anna slept with the entire state of Texas...not be business...either...

Posted at 9:39AM on Mar 2nd 2007 by homegirl101

1162. Billy, Get in there for your son! Have the mags begin an investigation immediately. Find out what Anna's circle of friends were doing to him. She used Daniel and abused him for financial gain, because he was so pretty and he made her look good for photo spreads; other times he was in boarding schools. Had he been an ugly child, it would have been different!

Who diagnosed Daniel's need for psyche meds? Did he need them or was that the Mafia's way of controlling him too? God forbid, Daniel have a wife and children. The HEIR list would increase .

Many people have termed Texas as "trailer trash". Show them what TRASH really looks like, Billy! California Trash! Don't worry abour political correctness! Call them what they are and how they have to use other people's children just like they used Danny and now begun to use his sister!

The cameras have come after Anna's relatives in droves. Put investigators on Howard and Birkhead. Interrogate their "before Anna" lovelife. Interview their old girlfriends. Do it for the baby! Imagine what a gigolo money handler and a professional photographer will use this new child for the rest of her life! Don't allow another child fall into their hands!

Posted at 10:06AM on Mar 2nd 2007 by nancy moody

1163. Virgie,

Stay strong and full strength ahead! Investigate the Protection of the Mentally ill Code in California. Vicki appeared to have signs of a Dyskinesia associated with some anti-psychotic and anti-depressant meds, before her body had a chance to adjust to them, (especially her mouth movements). Find out any new prescriptions she had begun and how long prior to that interview. There should be a protection code in the law of California for use/abuse of mentally diagnosed people.

What does the law say about a mentally ill person being taken in by the attorney that is supposed to be representing her estate. Find out what other drugs were given her that would have adverse effect when mixed and NOT because someone killed her, but because someone was controlling her.

Find out why she was so physically ill, she had to have someone at her bedside in Fla. Had to be physically helped to the bathroom, physically lifted into a bathtub, waited on hand and foot and medical help was not obtained. Find out why a registered nurse did not call 911. and a paramedic could not figure out how to call 911. Don't accept "natural causes" because there is nothing natural about neglect..

Posted at 10:30AM on Mar 2nd 2007 by nancy moody

1164. Her mother is trying to stop the funeral...again as we speak...a
Narcissist...all for attention...she is making a fool of
herself...every channel..is saying it...and I agree

Posted at 10:49AM on Mar 2nd 2007 by homegirl101

1165. her mother is late for her daughter's funeral...and you want me to believe that she gives a fuk about Anna......now her body is waiting again..outside of a Funeral Home Virgie wants the attention from the media...shows up at the end...after all the hoopala..to get her own attention...
like the girl who comes late for the party...so everyone can notice her dress.......s
Virgie makes me sick

Posted at 11:00AM on Mar 2nd 2007 by homegirl101

1166. Grief or Greed...holding up the funeral..can't you have the service...and fight to put her into the ground...Verigie is not popular with CNN, MSNBC, FOX..all reporting that this is the worst thing a parent could do....holding up the funeral..it's apalling

Posted at 11:06AM on Mar 2nd 2007 by homegirl101

1167. It's the principle of the thing, Billy!

Don't worry about the cable show opinions! Many of those opininated mouth pieces rode OJ Simpson to fame!

You are better than Stern, Birkhead and Co.. You don't need a fake tan, silk ties and hairspray. They're sissies! They allow other men to crawl in their bed. Expose them!

Vicki used Mr. Marshall's money to alienate Daniel from you. Now, you can use Mr. Marshall's money to help rescue this baby and bring your son home. The money is there and drawing interest! Ask the Marshall's to help you. Mr. Marshall should not be buried half in the Bahamas and half in Texas! He was an American citizen as was Daniel.

Ignore the criticism: You and Vergie did not tolerate Vicki's behaviour so you are labeled DESERTERS and those who tolerated her are labeled ENABLERS. Ignore the psycho-babble, put the blame on Vicki and bring Daniel home!

Posted at 1:03PM on Mar 2nd 2007 by nancy moody

1168. Well, even FOX NEWS is trashing ET's interviews with Howard & Anna! And Stern Pressures Larry TODAY to sign a deal!!

Howard K. Stern Plays Hardball With Larry Birkhead
Friday, March 02, 2007

By Roger Friedman

AP

Anna Nicole: Stern Pressures Larry to Sign Deal

Anna Nicole Smith's two baby daddies (I don't know what else to call them) continue to be in a tug-of-war this morning, even as their beloved cash cow is readied for burial.

Overnight, attorney Howard K. Stern — whose hold on the situation is starting to slip — has been strong-arming photographer Larry Birkhead to do a couple of things: keep Birkhead's legal reps out of Anna Nicole Smith's Bahamas funeral, sign a contract deal with "Entertainment Tonight" and acquiesce even further regarding the future of baby Danniellynn.

Stern, as I told you the other day, has already had one secret meeting with Birkhead in which he cut out the photographer's lawyers.

I'm told that Stern has kept up the pressure on Birkhead, actually presenting him with contracts, sources say, in which Birkhead would join Stern for more exclusive interviews on "Entertainment Tonight" and "The Insider."

"Howard wanted Larry to sign so that it looked like everyone was in agreement, and that it wasn't just Howard benefiting from these deals," my source said. "Larry said the baby's guardian should sign the papers for him and the baby, but he wouldn't. So then Larry wouldn't."

At the same time, Stern is trying to negotiate separately with Birkhead, away from his attorneys, to sign a deal by which Stern would continue to be in baby Danniellyn's life and oversee her finances.

Stern, my sources say, is working as quickly as he can to effect these agreements before he has to turn over the baby to Birkhead, her biological father.

Sources say that Birkhead's representatives are considering taking legal action against Stern's side to prevent further communication between the two sides as soon as today.

The problem, sources also say, is that Birkhead — a novice in these games — continues to be intimidated by Stern.

"Entertainment Tonight" and "The Insider," both owned by CBS Paramount Television, have denied paying for interviews. But I'm told their method – it's semantics — is to "license" footage either directly from Stern or through a third party.

Recently, "ET" used Solana Productions of Southern California in such a deal. Neither Solana or anyone from CBS Paramount answered calls yesterday.

Anna Nicole: Dead, and For Sale

Today, Anna Nicole Smith — a ridiculous person who accomplished just about nothing in her life — will be buried in the Bahamas.

There are several wars taking place all over the world, not to mention famines; artists are hard at work, movies are opening, buildings are going up, diseases are being investigated. But hey: Anna Nicole is being buried, and "Entertainment Tonight" will be there for every cheesy second of it.

That's because "Entertainment Tonight" and "The Insider," two half-hour shows syndicated by CBS's Paramount TV, have paid a high price for this honor.

Real insiders (not the kind you have to pay for info) tell me that Paramount TV cut the deal with Howard K. Stern, Anna Nicole's lawyer and Svengali, right after her son Daniel died of a methadone overdose in her Bahamian hospital room last September.

Paramount TV has denied this, somewhat passively, so far. But my sources say it they paid Stern around $3 million initially, and that this was renegotiated right after Anna Nicole herself died on February 8th of this year.

Of course, we could believe that Stern — who in court told clueless Florida probate judge Larry Seidlin that he was living off his parents — just loves "ET." Anything's possible.

But the reality is that Anna Nicole's death has proven to be a ratings-sweep godsend.

Linda Bell Blue, the show's executive producer, previously helmed Paramount's ugly tabloid show, "Hard Copy." For years she's had to sit through Mary Hart's tedious, publicist-arranged interviews with low-level TV stars, just waiting for this moment: a huge celebrity death, in a sweeps month, and already contracted for!

As recently as last night, "ET" correspondent Mark Steines was reporting "from inside" Anna Nicole's Bahamas mansion — no mention of the fact that it didn't belong to her, and that the landlord is kicking everyone out.

Steines had "the inside scoop" about the B-list country singer who would serenade Anna Nicole into the next life, the color of her burial gown ("pink!") and what would be inside the coffin (with any luck, Anna Nicole).

Steines performs these interviews — as he has since last Nov. 1, when he had his first "exclusive" after Smith's son, Daniel, died — with a reasonably straight face.

He either knows he's skating on very thin ice and doesn't care, or doesn't get it and is happy to accept the money. In either case, he loses.

As far back as last November, the show's viewers were writing into "ET" forums on the Web asking how much the show had paid for the interviews, and begging them to stop.

On the topix.net forum for the show, a woman named Lana from Andrews, Texas, wrote on Nov. 6: "ET needs to rename their show The Anna Nichole (sic) Show. Every night it is about her. I wonder if there are any viewers that care to hear about her."

On Nov. 6, Dianne from Madison, Wis., wrote: "I think they might have finally driven me away from the show with all this Anna Nicole crap. How much is she paying them?"

The viewers were smarter than the show thought. That didn't stop Blue, Steines and friends.

Nancy from Richardson, Texas, posted this before Smith died on Feb. 8: "Get over her ... I am tired of all of the interviews they are doing with her. She sounds like she is either drunk or high. I have no respect for her and am getting tired of seeing her and all the interviews. She can't even talk without sounding like she is a drunken slut!"

Patti Horton from Altoona, Pa., posted this on Feb. 9: "I can't believe someone from E[T] hasn't questioned Anna Nicole about her drug use. Every night that she is being interviewed it is quite obvious that she is somewhere in la la land. I think they should of (sic) been more persistent in following that path than her new house. Some of the interviews it was all she coud (sic) do to talk. Was this a safe environment for this baby???"

Steines, of course, has a blog on the "ET" Web site. It's a hoot.

On Feb. 9, the day after Smith died, he posted: "When the news broke of Anna's death ... I immediately boarded a plane to Florida along with Khristine Eroshevich, Anna's close confidant…"

Steines acts like Eroshevich is just a pal, maybe another Playboy model. In fact, she was the model's psychiatrist, and someone who has yet to be heard from.

Eroshevich's few comments — including that she oversaw an ice bath for a dying Smith — have been limited to ... Steines, who despite his "inside" sources has not been able to secure Eroshevich for a real interview about these people and their drug use.

I doubt that will happen until Stern's usefulness has passed and his agreements with "ET" have expired.

Steines must feel a long way away from the two Emmys he received years ago in local news at KCAL-TV in Los Angeles.

Posted at 12:33PM on Mar 2nd 2007 by Briggs

1169. Rest in peace Anna Nicole. My goodness, what a circus this has been. I agree with someone above who saud, "Why did she wait until her daughter was dead to fight for her?" That was a good point. As far as her exsumming the body and taking it to Texas - that would just be LUDICROUS, but I don't put anything past this woman. Her dragging in the first ex-husband, who hasn't been around since the mid -80's now trying to exsumme Daniel's body - OMG - will this ever end? It's way - way too much. That's just sac-religious. Leave the bodies alone - let them rest in peace.

Posted at 11:48AM on Mar 3rd 2007 by Universalwriter

1170. Virgie said she wanted to bury Anna in Texas 'with other family members'.

Who else was she planning on burying??

(lol)

Posted at 9:36PM on Mar 3rd 2007 by Dianne